Do i really need a graphics card? Help

[hazza_ob]

im designing a new build and my graphics card is taking up £140 of my budget (r9 280x). since the intel i5 4460 has onboard graphics, do i really need a graphics card at the time of when i build it because i can always save up and buy one later, or should i get this card and get spend less on other parts probably meaning that they will be worse

 

the part list is:

 

http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/nBMqVn

 

 I'm trying to aim between £400-£500

 

Thanks - Harry

[Guest Kloaked]

If you can save later, definitely scrap the GPU for now and put the money into the other parts.

[SImoHayha]

im designing a new build and my graphics card is taking up £140 of my budget (r9 280x). since the intel i5 4460 has onboard graphics, do i really need a graphics card at the time of when i build it because i can always save up and buy one later, or should i get this card and get spend less on other parts probably meaning that they will be worse

 

the part list is:

 

http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/nBMqVn

 

 I'm trying to aim between £400-£500

 

Thanks - Harry

or you could lower down to the 270x

[Oshino Shinobu]

You don't have to have one for the PC to function. You can add the card in after saving if you want to. 

[Faceman]

Do you need an operating system included in your 500 pound budget?

 

What is the purpose of your machine?  Gaming?

[TheRetiredSlave]

If you're trying to play graphically demanding games, then a dedicated GPU is a necessity. If you're playing lightweight simpler games or not gaming at all, then there's not really any reason to include a GPU.

[Laputacake]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor (£110.00)

Motherboard: MSI H81M-P33 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£34.57 @ Scan.co.uk)

Memory: Patriot Signature 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£43.45 @ Amazon UK)

Storage: Sandisk X110 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£43.34 @ Scan.co.uk)

Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£41.98 @ Scan.co.uk)

Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 280X 3GB TWIN FROZR Video Card (£120.00)

Power Supply: Corsair CX 500W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (£49.80 @ Scan.co.uk)

Other: PowerMac G5 (£0.99)

Total: £444.13

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-01-10 00:33 GMT+0000

[hazza_ob]

or you could lower down to the 270x

its about a £20 difference so that wouldn't make a massive difference although you could argue that if you take £20 off of everything then it'll all become cheaper

[Faceman]

PCPartPicker part list: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/XVNLqs
Price breakdown by merchant: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/XVNLqs/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  (£110.00)
Motherboard: Asus B85M-G Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  (£49.52 @ Ebuyer) <-- Don't need a Z series motherboard unless you want to overclock, in which case you also need a "k" processor.
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  (£57.60 @ Kustom PCs)
Storage: Crucial M500 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (£46.84 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£35.94 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 280X 3GB TWIN FROZR Video Card  (£120.00)
Power Supply: EVGA 600B 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  (£46.09 @ Aria PC)
Other: PowerMac G5 (£0.99)
Total: £466.98
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-01-10 00:36 GMT+0000

[Clarkey]

If anything drop the SSD, yes if you wnat to play games a GPU is needed. Also THeres not a case included in that?

[hazza_ob]

Do you need an operating system included in your 500 pound budget?

 

What is the purpose of your machine?  Gaming?

it will be in the future but for now i don't really have time cause of coursework and tests.. ergh

[Faceman]

it will be in the future but for now i don't really have time cause of coursework and tests.. ergh

In that case, buy just the i5.

 

Then, when you get enough money, buy an R9 290 or GTX 970.  I think you will be much happier with this as the end result.  It will also allow you to spend more money on a better CPU and motherboard for overclocking.

 

PCPartPicker part list: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/DWpjsY

Price breakdown by merchant: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/DWpjsY/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  (£173.94 @ Aria PC)

CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  (£25.44 @ Aria PC)

Motherboard: MSI Z97-G45 Gaming ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  (£101.91 @ Ebuyer)

Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  (£57.60 @ Kustom PCs)

Storage: Crucial M500 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (£46.84 @ Amazon UK)

Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£35.94 @ Aria PC)

Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  (£63.31 @ Amazon UK)

Other: PowerMac G5 (£0.99)

Total: £505.97

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-01-10 00:41 GMT+0000

[dizmo]

I'd run the onboard graphics while you wait for a better card.

Or just save up until you have the money that you require.

It all depends on what games you want to play.

 

 

If you're trying to play graphically demanding games, then a dedicated GPU is a necessity. If you're playing lightweight simpler games or not gaming at all, then there's not really any reason to include a GPU.

You don't have to play games that are thaaaat simple. I manage to play most games on my ultrabook and it only has HD4000 graphics.

[hazza_ob]

If anything drop the SSD, yes if you wnat to play games a GPU is needed. Also THeres not a case included in that?

if i use a hybrid drive, could that be better than having two separate drives? and look at the very bottom (powermac g5) it costs £1 from eBay cause its so old and no one wants it cause the technology in it is terrible so i was going to strip it, convert it into an atx case then build in it

[hazza_ob]

and if anyone is wondering why the price for the processor and GPU is a lot lower than what is on amazon, its because I'm getting the cpu as oem (original equipment manufacturer) so its cheaper but doesn't have a heatsink - these are normally used by companies who build computers so they would need lots of them but you can just buy 1. and the GPU is cheaper because of eBay, I've seen multiple 280x's go for around that price

[Leonard]

im designing a new build and my graphics card is taking up £140 of my budget (r9 280x). since the intel i5 4460 has onboard graphics, do i really need a graphics card at the time of when i build it because i can always save up and buy one later, or should i get this card and get spend less on other parts probably meaning that they will be worse

 

the part list is:

 

http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/nBMqVn

 

 I'm trying to aim between £400-£500

 

Thanks - Harry

See if you like this.

[othertomperson]

it will be in the future but for now i don't really have time cause of coursework and tests.. ergh

 

It would be an option, then, to not bother with Windows until you actually want to game. Ubuntu will get you through your coursework unless you have any particularly Windows-specific software you need for it, and then you can just upgrade your OS and your GPU at a later time when you actually need them.