which one 4690k or xeon?

[WidowMaker]

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0085MQUTU/?tag=pcpapi-20

 

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sorry for asking alot im just finding new things i like and wondering 

[FatalityDiablo]

the i5 imo.

[Guest Haduvokone]

i7 much more consumergrade and overclockable

[WoodenMarker]

For one, the xeon is IvyB while the i5 is Devil's Canyon.

What's the system being used for?

[WidowMaker]

For one, the xeon is IvyB while the i5 is Devil's Canyon.

What's the system being used for?

gaming 

how do you know all of this thanks man

[Octavialicious]

gaming 

how do you know all of this thanks man

Get the i5, the Xeon is only worth it if you render etc

[WoodenMarker]

gaming 

how do you know all of this thanks man

The 4690k would be better. 

[WidowMaker]

The 4690k would be better. 

how about if i code becuase im going to start to learn code soon too

[OCing Noob]

i5 will be a better choice for gaming.

[OCing Noob]

gaming 

how do you know all of this thanks man

 

 

For one, the xeon is IvyB while the i5 is Devil's Canyon.

What's the system being used for?

 

hahahhahahahahah .he have learned the name and code chart  :lol: JK. with time you will automatically know the names codes and numbers

[WoodenMarker]

how about if i code becuase im going to start to learn code soon too

The i5 would still be better unless you're either working with heavily threaded code.

[ind3x]

Get the i5 unless you do a lot of content creation (Videos and high res images)

But do not buy the 4690k if you won't overclock it at some point.

If you buy the 4690k i advise that you at least buy a cooler like the 212 evo, and overclock it from there.

If you don't want to overclock i suggest the i5 4460 and a cheaper motherboard instead.

[.spider.]

i5 is Devil's Canyon.

Its Haswell

Buy Xeon if you don't want to overclock.

[i_build_nanosuits]

Its Haswell

Buy Xeon if you don't want to overclock.

correct, it's haswell based not ''devils canyon''

and this xeon is based on an older architecture, i would suggest the xeon 1230V3 or 1231V3 instead...or the i5 they are all just as good the i5 would have slightly better single-threaded performance once overclocked (xeon is locked so no overclocking) but the xeons will have far greater multi-threaded performance so better for some newer games and just better multi-tasking and better at rendering and content creation overall.

[WoodenMarker]

Its Haswell

Buy Xeon if you don't want to overclock.

It's Haswell-refresh if you're referring to architecture. I was just referring to the code name. 

correct, it's haswell based not ''devils canyon''

and this xeon is based on an older architecture, i would suggest the xeon 1230V3 or 1231V3 instead...or the i5 they are all just as good the i5 would have slightly better single-threaded performance once overclocked (xeon is locked so no overclocking) but the xeons will have far greater multi-threaded performance so better for some newer games and just better multi-tasking and better at rendering and content creation overall.

Devil's Canyon is a bit more descriptive than just Hawell-refresh. That's why I didn't just contrast them with 1150 vs 1155. 

[i_build_nanosuits]

It's Haswell-refresh if you're referring to architecture. I was just referring to the code name. 

Devil's Canyon is a bit more descriptive than just Hawell-refresh. That's why I didn't just contrast them with 1150 vs 1155. 

it's haswell, not ''haswell-refresh'' there has been absolutely no changes to the architecture the CPu supports the same instructions sets nothing has been added or changed architecture wise, it's haswell.

They've improved thermals with higher quality TIM and added 2 extra capacitors to the CPU to help with stability. architecture wise they are the same haswell parts.

[WoodenMarker]

it's haswell, not ''haswell-refresh'' there has been absolutely no changes to the architecture the CPu supports the same instructions sets nothing has been added or changed architecture wise, it's haswell.

Right--my bad. not 'architecture'. That was just the first word that came to mind.

Now that I think of it, I can't come up with the proper word that would fit well to describe Haswell-refresh other than 'it's a name.. thing'. 

[i_build_nanosuits]

Right--my bad. not 'architecture'. That was just the first word that came to mind.

Now that I think of it, I can't come up with the proper word that would fit well to describe Haswell-refresh other than 'it's a name.. thing'. 

intel thought ''devil's canyon'' would sound impressive and appealing for their customers.

[WoodenMarker]

intel thought ''devil's canyon'' would sound impressive and appealing for their customers.

Well yes. 

I think codename would be an appropriate description for the 'Haswell-refresh' title although Intel isn't always clear on making a clean line between Haswell/Haswell-refresh. 

[digisax]

The Xeon is Ivy Bridge while the 4690k is Haswell. If you are going to use it primarily for gaming definitely go for the i5, which unlike the Xeon is overclockable if you buy a Z97 board. The Xeon would be a better choice if you need to do renders, intense number crunching, or other workstation loads and require insane stability. Even once you start coding, until you get into some crazy intense stuff the i5 will have no trouble, I do all my coding on an i7 4790k at home and an i7 4700MQ when I'm on my laptop and have no issues with either and the i5 would greatly out perform my mobile i7.

[mark201200]

The Xeon is a 3rd gen i7 without HD Graphics

But i would suggest a 1230 V3, It's a underclocked 4770.

[SteveGrabowski]

If you go Xeon, get the Xeon E3-1231v3 clocked at 3.4GHz base / 3.8 GHz turbo. If you're willing to buy the Z97 board and an aftermarket heatsink, you should be able to get something like 3-6 FPS more on a good overclock with the i5-4690k (e.g, 4.5GHz) on most games in CPU bound situations, with the occasional 10FPS gain based on benchmarks I have seen. The Xeon won't be any faster than a stock i5 for most games, but occasionally you'll run into one like Dragon Age Inquisition that seems to be designed to really take advantage of hyperthreading and can perform way better when CPU bound. Battlefield 4 does also, but it's one of the 10FPS gain games from overclocking the i5-4690k also, so either CPU offers a ton of performance there over say a locked i5-4690.

 

To me the decision came down to whether games will stay optimized for quadcore, in which case the i5-4690k will be the far superior gaming chip, or whether games will be optimized better to the octacore consoles and given lazy ports to PC, in which case I think the 8 thread Xeon will come out looking better the same way a 3.5GHz i3 does over a 4.5GHz Pentium thanks to hyperthreading. I took the cynical view that PC ports will suck but that developers will be able to parallelize well enough to optimize to the console octacores, now that they're not designing games to work on the XBox 360 anymore (which needed strong single core performance). Even if this bet is wrong and games stay optimized for quadcores (as they are now) I'm still pretty good though since the Xeon E3-1231v3 has the same powerful per core performance of a locked i5, halfway between the i5-4590 and the i5-4690. Maybe a little better thanks to the extra 2MB of cache on the Xeon vs the i5's.

 

But for right now the i5-4690k is the better buy. It'll be interesting to see if this still holds in 2015, 2016, and beyond, and if the crossover to 8-core optimization happens late enough that both chips would be obsolete anyways.

[i_build_nanosuits]

snip!

he's looking at the xeon e3-1230 V2 which is an ivy bridge based CPU...it's really not as good as the E3-1231V3 you are talking about...