AMD Fx Processors

[MattVengeance]

Hi,

i want to upgrade my PC, I have always been on the Intel side, and now I saw the FX-8320 (8 core - 3.5 GHz) for about €150, thought it was awesome an ectacore for such a low price, I plan to use this for gaming and graphics(photoshop, video editing, CAD, ..). But watching benchmarks has the same, or even lower, performance of i5. I have some questions:

 

1. Is the CPU good for what I mentioned before? I don't want it become obselete in a year.
2. Can I really get the benefits of the eight-core? I read it is a kinda of 4 core, 8 thread.
3. Is this MotherBoard Asus M5A78L-M/USB3 good for overclocking, aroung 4,1-4,3 GHz? I found a good CPU Cooler, so it isn't a problem the temperature. 
4. I chose a GTX970 as GPU, I want to work and play in 4K (my cousin would give a 4K monitor for a low price), there could be are any bottlenecks?
5. Given the CPU and GPU, which PSU wattage would be good? I have a new 600W, can I still use it, or have I to change it?

Thanks for your patience, btw this is my 1st post in LTT 

[Fate]

1. Yes it's great for those applications

2. Yes you will in video editing & photoshop.

3. No, you'll want a 990FX board (maybe a high end 970 board) to do some decent overclocks and I wouldn't recommend running at stock on that board either.

4. Bottlenecks are generally insignificant at 4k, there will be some bottlenecks at 1080p in some games though. A single 970 isn't going to be strong enough to drive 4k above medium-high in most newer titles.

5. 600Watts is great.

[ReesZRB]

If you are video editting often then I don't recommend getting the CPU.

[Sauron]

Hi,

i want to upgrade my PC, I have always been on the Intel side, and now I saw the FX-8320 (8 core - 3.5 GHz) for about €150, thought it was awesome an ectacore for such a low price, I plan to use this for gaming and graphics(photoshop, video editing, CAD, ..). But watching benchmarks has the same, or even lower, performance of i5. I have some questions:

 

1. Is the CPU good for what I mentioned before? I don't want it become obselete in a year.
2. Can I really get the benefits of the eight-core? I read it is a kinda of 4 core, 8 thread.
3. Is this MotherBoard Asus M5A78L-M/USB3 good for overclocking, aroung 4,1-4,3 GHz? I found a good CPU Cooler, so it isn't a problem the temperature. 
4. I chose a GTX970 as GPU, I want to work and play in 4K (my cousin would give a 4K monitor for a low price), there could be are any bottlenecks?
5. Given the CPU and GPU, which PSU wattage would be good? I have a new 600W, can I still use it, or have I to change it?

Thanks for your patience, btw this is my 1st post in LTT 

 

1) yes, I advise you overclock it though to get the most out of it

2) 4core 8thread is an i7, the 8350 has 8 cores which share some things in couples. You will benefit from 8 cores in cntent creation.

3) it's good enough but you should consider something better

4) yes, the cpu will bottleneck a bit. If you want 4k you might want to consider stepping it up to a core i5 4690k

5) 600watts is fine http://www.extreme.outervision.com/psucalculatorlite.jsp

 

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[MrKickkiller]

4. A gtx 970 will not do 4K gaming at full details

[SSOB]

1. It's fine, an i5 will beat it tho. And it's already obsolete. (it's 4+ years old...)

2. Unless you use software of which you know that it's going to be benefiting from those 4 extra cores. No

3. Maybe/No , it also depends on your chip , that mobo sucks tho...

4. It will bottleneck a GTX 970

5. Yes it's fine.

 

Conclusion: Get an i5

[pinksnowmanshandle]

It's a fine budget CPU of course you're going to have Intel fansboys be like all "oh hell no." but really for what it cost if I needed to I personally would buy one too.

Though I should mention that it's from like 2012 so yeah that's where AMD kinda neglected it. Though if you're not going to overclock or do a smallish overclock you should be fine.

The cores are bigger and weaker than Intel cores but again it gives some edge over at least all last gen Intel i5s and some low end i7 last gen when rendering video, etc.

[Fate]

If you are video editting often then I don't recommend getting the CPU.

What? An 8320 is much better than a locked i5 for video editing.

 

 

1. It's fine, an i5 will beat it tho. And it's already obsolete. (it's 4+ years old...)

2. Unless you use software of which you know that it's going to be benefiting from those 4 extra cores. No

3. Maybe/No , it also depends on your chip , that mobo sucks tho...

4. It will bottleneck a GTX 970

5. Yes it's fine.

 

Conclusion: Get an i5

1. Not in many of the things he's doing.

2. Again, did you read what he's going to be doing?

3. Yes that motherboard isn't good for an 8320.

4. At 1080p in some games yes, at 4k it's very insignificant.

 

Conclusion: Get an 8320

(coming from a guy who hates FX)

[SSOB]

What? An 8320 is much better than a locked i5 for video editing.

 

 

1. Not in many of the things he's doing.

2. Again, did you read what he's going to be doing?

3. Yes that motherboard isn't good for an 8320.

4. At 1080p in some games yes, at 4k it's very insignificant.

 

Conclusion: Get an 8320

(coming from a guy who hates FX)

i5 is the better option still. If you can prove me wrong with benchmarks that would be great!

[Fate]

i5 is the better option still. If you can prove me wrong with benchmarks that would be great!

You can look up the benchmarks yourself, 8320 is better than a locked i5 when all cores are being taken advantage of (video editing, photoshop, etc).

The locked i5 is much better for gaming, but from the original post, he is not only gaming.

[SSOB]

You can look up the benchmarks yourself, 8320 is better than a locked i5 when all cores are being taken advantage of (video editing, photoshop, etc).

The locked i5 is much better for gaming, but from the original post, he is not only gaming.

I don't know how to use google, please prove me wrong by posting links or graphs ^^

[ReesZRB]

What? An 8320 is much better than a locked i5 for video editing.

 

 

1. Not in many of the things he's doing.

2. Again, did you read what he's going to be doing?

3. Yes that motherboard isn't good for an 8320.

4. At 1080p in some games yes, at 4k it's very insignificant.

 

Conclusion: Get an 8320

(coming from a guy who hates FX)

No point in time I said get i5 also I don't hate on FX.

[MattVengeance]

Whoa, thank you for the fast replies! You convinced me to buy it,

anyone have this processor? What are you using it for, and is it good? 

 

Merry Christmas everyone 

[CoolaxGaming]

i5 is the better option still. If you can prove me wrong with benchmarks that would be great!

The 8 core 8 thread amd fx is still better in his application. Remember Linus.

"Different applications work better in different cases, let's not fanboy out here"

[Fate]

@ReesZRB I was quoting the other guy for that part of the post, if you meant for your part, I must've interpreted it wrong sorry.

 

@SSOB

4460 http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i5-4460+%40+3.20GHz

8320 https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+FX-8320+Eight-Core

Of course synthetic benchmarks aren't everything, but they're pretty damn accurate in determining fully threaded performance.

[CoolaxGaming]

Whoa, thank you for the fast replies! You convinced me to buy it,

anyone have this processor? What are you using it for, and is it good? 

 

Merry Christmas everyone 

i have the 8350, a higher clocked version of the 8320.

Honestly from this cpu, the only successor worthy enough would be a i7 4th generation. A 4790k or 4xxxk processor. An i5 not in your case

[Briggsy]

like @Sauron said, there are 8 cores, but paired into 2 cores per module. CPU instructions are sent to a module, where the work is divided between two cores. Intel CPUs have instructions sent to each core individually, which means that the FX processors can only receive half as many instructions per core as an Intel CPU, clock for clock, within a set time period. Really, its slightly more complicated than that, and not all software is compiled the same, but this is the underlying reason why FX processors are weaker in some cases.

[Fate]

Whoa, thank you for the fast replies! You convinced me to buy it,

anyone have this processor? What are you using it for, and is it good? 

 

Merry Christmas everyone 

Merry Christmas!

I have a i5-3570k, but a lot of people on here have a 8320/8350 and they seem to love it for rendering/editing.

I would personally never give up my 3570k for one, but that's because I use my computer for web browsing, school work, games, photo editing and I wouldn't max out all 8 cores of the 8320 all the time. 

[SSOB]

@ReesZRB I was quoting the other guy for that part of the post, if you meant for your part, I must've interpreted it wrong sorry.

 

@SSOB

4460 http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i5-4460+%40+3.20GHz

8320 https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+FX-8320+Eight-Core

Of course synthetic benchmarks aren't everything, but they're pretty damn accurate in determining fully threaded performance.

Those are too synthetic. In the real world the i5 will pretty much always win. (speaking from experience with a 8350 and 4670K ( both at stock and both OC'd) The i5 is just a little tad slower at stock but when OC'd to 4.3 GHZ it just eats the 8350 for breakfast.

[Fate]

Those are too synthetic. In the real world the i5 will pretty much always win. (speaking from experience with a 8350 and 4670K ( both at stock and both OC'd) The i5 is just a little tad slower at stock but when OC'd to 4.3 GHZ it just eats the 8350 for breakfast.

I would like to see your benchmarks then MR. I-can't-Google-so-pls-tell-me-what's-right-and-let-me-prove-you-wrong.

 

edit: You're comparing a 4670k to an 8350, the 4670k is much more expensive to buy/overclock than an 8320 while a locked i5 is the same price. 

[anders_b]

intel have better single core preformens but with amd you get a shit ton of cores for a low price

[CoolaxGaming]

intel have better single core preformens but with amd you get a shit ton of cores for a low price

And a "shit ton" of cores give a lot better rendering/enditing performance then fast 4 cores

[s3ns3]

FX chip in 2015...with a gtx 970...

 

just no

[Fate]

FX chip in 2015...with a gtx 970...

 

just no

At 4k it's fine and he's going to be doing a lot of rendering and whatnot.

[BigChimp97]

FX chip in 2015...with a gtx 970...

 

just no

And why would that be a problem?