Haswell or Vishera?

[MsTrMind]

Hey all,

 

This is my current situation: using laptop with a second screen and external keyboard and mouse for daily driver. Using my parents' computer for gaming.

For a stupid reason, I can't use my parents' computer any longer.

 

In the form of the "Build Plan Recommendations:"

1. Budget & Location

I have a budget of €750, €760 MAX! I live in Belgium.

2. Aim

My system will be used as a gamingcomputer, will run (when I am not using it) as an FTP server (only on LAN) and DLNA server.

3. Monitors

I have 1 monitor at the moment, this is a 19" non-hd monitor (can't remember the resolution). I will be upgrading with one extra 1080p monitor in the future.

4. Peripherals

As I stated before, I have a keyboard laying around (it's a membrane, don't shoot me. It fulfils my needs) and a good gaming-capable mouse.

5. Why are you upgrading?

I am upgrading because I don't have access any longer to a gaming-capable computer. My laptop is gaming capable, but runs to hot imo.

 

So far I have build myself these systems:

(Translations:

- Mijn winkelwagen: My Cart

- Aantal: Number of

- Stukprijs: Price/piece

- Totaalprijs: total cost (only of the products)

- Totaal: Total (inc. shippingcosts)

- Bijkomende verzendkosten: additional shippingcost)

And this one:

I am buying this PC on thursday (11 June 2013). I won't be doing crossfire/sli.

I have been googling a couple weeks with all my questions, and the AMD system is pretty much finetuned. It is only the Haswell one that I am unsure about...

 

1. Will the 4670K perform as good as/better as the FX8350? (In gaming that is, apart from that I   only use regular desktop applications)

 

2. Is this motherboard any good? 

 

3. When I add an aftermarket cooler, will I be able to get a 4.5Ghz speed? (When I have a good chip)

Cooler will be something like an H100i / Noctua NH-D14

 

For some reason I really want to go Haswell. 

My parents' pc runs on an FX-6100, and I am verry happy with it. My laptop runs an Intel 2630QM i7, and I am also verry happy with it.

 

Sorry for the long post ;-)

 

[jamese669]

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Hey all,

 

This is my current situation: using laptop with a second screen and external keyboard and mouse for daily driver. Using my parents' computer for gaming.

For a stupid reason, I can't use my parents' computer any longer.

 

In the form of the "Build Plan Recommendations:"

1. Budget & Location

I have a budget of €750, €760 MAX! I live in Belgium.

2. Aim

My system will be used as a gamingcomputer, will run (when I am not using it) as an FTP server (only on LAN) and DLNA server.

3. Monitors

I have 1 monitor at the moment, this is a 19" non-hd monitor (can't remember the resolution). I will be upgrading with one extra 1080p monitor in the future.

4. Peripherals

As I stated before, I have a keyboard laying around (it's a membrane, don't shoot me. It fulfils my needs) and a good gaming-capable mouse.

5. Why are you upgrading?

I am upgrading because I don't have access any longer to a gaming-capable computer. My laptop is gaming capable, but runs to hot imo.

 

So far I have build myself these systems:

(Translations:

- Mijn winkelwagen: My Cart

- Aantal: Number of

- Stukprijs: Price/piece

- Totaalprijs: total cost (only of the products)

- Totaal: Total (inc. shippingcosts)

- Bijkomende verzendkosten: additional shippingcost)

And this one:

I am buying this PC on thursday (11 June 2013). I won't be doing crossfire/sli.

I have been googling a couple weeks with all my questions, and the AMD system is pretty much finetuned. It is only the Haswell one that I am unsure about...

 

1. Will the 4670K perform as good as/better as the FX8350? (In gaming that is, apart from that I   only use regular desktop applications)

 

2. Is this motherboard any good? 

 

3. When I add an aftermarket cooler, will I be able to get a 4.5Ghz speed? (When I have a good chip)

Cooler will be something like an H100i / Noctua NH-D14

 

For some reason I really want to go Haswell. 

My parents' pc runs on an FX-6100, and I am verry happy with it. My laptop runs an Intel 2630QM i7, and I am also verry happy with it.

 

Sorry for the long post ;-)

i got an amd system slightly like yours and it performs amazing but i have no experience with haswell so i cant compair

[ExDreamer]

For amd system,u can buy a cheaper mobo, and get amd 7950 or 7870xt gpu instead.I would recommended this mobo Asus M5A99X-EVO R2.0

 

 

[smjpl]

With regards to your budget, you left out a HDD and cd drive. That will bring it over your max €760 budget or do you have them already? What about getting an OS? Do you have a way to get one for free? Also speakers are needed (but least of your worries).

[MsTrMind]

With regards to your budget, you left out a HDD and cd drive. That will bring it over your max €760 budget or do you have them already? What about getting an OS? Do you have a way to get one for free? Also speakers are needed (but least of your worries).

I should have written this, I have a hdd, headset and speakers. I also havrme free (and legal) acess to Windows 7 and 8 via my school.

[MsTrMind]

Also, I am not looking to spend less than 750 euro.

I just want to know which will fit in with my needs :)

[MsTrMind]

For amd system,u can buy a cheaper mobo, and get amd 7950 or 7870xt gpu instead.I would recommended this mobo Asus M5A99X-EVO R2.0

The 7870xt is not available anymore in Belgium. Idem ditto for this motherboard.

It will be available in a week or 2, but since I am buying my pc the day after tomorrow, this one wont be an option :-)

THx for your reply tho :-)

[Lord_Kunkka]

Can't you just wait for a little bit  :D, use your laptop a little longer until the mobo is available ?

[ExDreamer]

The 7870xt is not available anymore in Belgium. Idem ditto for this motherboard.

It will be available in a week or 2, but since I am buying my pc the day after tomorrow, this one wont be an option :-)

THx for your reply tho :-)

Then i would pick amd system as u say u will use it as server also.Extra core would definitely offload task better.

[MsTrMind]

Can't you just wait for a little bit :D, use your laptop a little longer until the mobo is available ?

Haha nope :p

My examns end thursday, and I will go directly to the store to buy ly shiznick ;)

[MsTrMind]

Then i would pick amd system as u say u will use it as server also.Extra core would definitely offload task better.

So I wont have any advantages from the 4670k?

[WoodenMarker]

So I wont have any advantages from the 4670k?

Haswell/Vishera?

 

Why not Ivy? The combined price of a haswell cpu/mobo is significantly more expensive than an ivy cpu/mobo. 

With the money saved, you could get a 7950. 

If you aren't hooked onto overclocking, you could go with a xeon e3 1230 v2 for the performance of a 3770.

[MsTrMind]

Haswell/Vishera?

 

Why not Ivy? The combined price of a haswell cpu/mobo is significantly more expensive than an ivy cpu/mobo. 

With the money saved, you could get a 7950. 

If you aren't hooked onto overclocking, you could go with a xeon e3 1230 v2 for the performance of a 3770.

 

As you can see, the pricing for a 3570K with a (kind of) decent motherboard is only €25 cheaper while the cheapest 7950 is €80 more expensive ...

Living in Belgium sucks (for the computer pricing) :-(

[ExDreamer]

As you can see, the pricing for a 3570K with a (kind of) decent motherboard is only €25 cheaper while the cheapest 7950 is €80 more expensive ...

Living in Belgium sucks (for the computer pricing) :-(

Keep us inform on which choice u make.

[MsTrMind]

Keep us inform on which choice u make.

Decision is made :-)

I will be getting the 4670k in combination with an HD7870Ghz from Sapphire.

[WoodenMarker]

As you can see, the pricing for a 3570K with a (kind of) decent motherboard is only €25 cheaper while the cheapest 7950 is €80 more expensive ...

Living in Belgium sucks (for the computer pricing) :-(

That's a more than decent motherboard. You can go cheaper. By that, I mean the cheapest z77 you can find.

The "quality" of the mobo is irrelevant to overclocking since the chip will probably experience problems before the mobo does.

[PuNkPoEtS]

you could look at getting either the fx-6350 or if thats isnt available the fx-6300 as they are compareable to the 3570k which is the ivy version of the cpu u chose and it is a beast with the 7870 as that is what im personally running on that mobo too

[MsTrMind]

you could look at getting either the fx-6350 or if thats isnt available the fx-6300 as they are compareable to the 3570k which is the ivy version of the cpu u chose and it is a beast with the 7870 as that is what im personally running on that mobo too

With all due respect, but the fx-6300 is nothing compared with the 4670k (especially not when overclocked).

I could understand that the fx8350 and the 3570k are neck to neck in performance (gaming that is).

 

Again, I am not trying to break your reaction, but I wasn't looking to save some money, I wanted the best of the best for my 750 euro.

 

Thanks anyway :)