3570k vs 8350 live streaming

[DjArtifact]

I currently have the 3570k but I'm not too pleased with the streaming results.  I know that there is the Teksyndicate video but the results in that video have been proven wrong so many times that I don't know what to do.  I use OBS and stream CS GO at 720p, should I switch to the 8350?

[Deeya]

Why not just upgrade to a 3770k for multithreading? Would be about the same price as buying an 8350 and new motherboard (possibly cheaper) I'd imagine.

[Theo]

8350!

[Owen]

I guess you'll get a bit better performance due to the extra cores on the 8350, but I think you'll be dissapointed in the boost you'll get. Rumor on the street is that 8 AMD cores = 5 Intel cores or something like that :P

[BlackOutCrisis]

Maybe it is your GPU that you aren't satisfied with because I stream BF3 at ultra with Vsync'd 60fps at 720p/4k bitrate and I only use like 75% of my 3570k.

[DjArtifact]

Why not just upgrade to a 3770k for multithreading? Would be about the same price as buying an 8350 and new motherboard (possibly cheaper) I'd imagine.

I already have an AMD 990fx motherboard.

[DjArtifact]

8350!

Why?  I need a good reason that isn't the fabricated results in the Teksyndicate video.

[Theo]

Why?  I need a good reason that isn't the fabricated results in the Teksyndicate video.

Fabricated results?

[DjArtifact]

Fabricated results?

Almost all of the results have been proven wrong.

[WoodenMarker]

What's your gpu? The 3570k is a pretty decent cpu.

[DjArtifact]

What's your gpu? The 3570k is a pretty decent cpu.

660 ti with a crazy overclock.

[WoodenMarker]

660 ti with a crazy overclock.

It's probably your gpu. Getting a second 660 Ti should fix the problem.

[sotiris.bos]

I guess you'll get a bit better performance due to the extra cores on the 8350, but I think you'll be dissapointed in the boost you'll get. Rumor on the street is that 8 AMD cores = 5 Intel cores or something like that :P

That is about right! The 8350 is NOT a REAL 8 core. The 8 cores are like baby cores, resulting in something like a physical hyperthreading. (two baby cores share the load of Intel's one) You are not going to be buying a real 8 core if you go for the 8350.

[DjArtifact]

It's probably your gpu. Getting a second 660 Ti should fix the problem.

Yeah that might be the best option.

[Ultimate_PIMP]

Why?  I need a good reason that isn't the fabricated results in the Teksyndicate video.

 

*Sigh*

 

Your raging on Tek syndikate just because of their test between the 8350 and the 3570k, right?

Well, if you are,Thats retarted. They got practically the same results as linus, from what i can remember.

[Ultimate_PIMP]

That is about right! The 8350 is NOT a REAL 8 core. The 8 cores are like baby cores, resulting in something like a physical hyperthreading. (two baby cores share the load of Intel's one) You are not going to be buying a real 8 core if you go for the 8350.

 

You're right, the 8350 s not a real 8 core processor. But it's not 8 baby cores like you said.

The 8350 has 4 physical cores, and 4 "logical" cores.

 

Basically. Each of the 4 amd cores are taking on 2 tasks at the same time, making it act like an 8 core chip.

 

I'm pretty sure it's called hyperthreading? But none the less.

 

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Sorry i didn't read your whole comment, you basically said it right.

Edited June 11, 2013 by Ultimate_PIMP

[BlackOutCrisis]

You're right, the 8350 s not a real 8 core processor. But it's not 8 baby cores like you said.

The 8350 has 4 physical cores, and 4 "logical" cores.

 

Basically. Each of the 4 amd cores are taking on 2 tasks at the same time, making it act like an 8 core chip.

 

I'm pretty sure it's called hyperthreading? But none the less.

 

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Sorry i didn't read your whole comment, you basically said it right.

Sorry you are wrong.

The architecture of the current FX series cpu's have 4modules/8cores. Each module has two cores in it. It is similar to hyperthreading but in a much less efficient way.

[Ultimate_PIMP]

Sorry you are wrong.

The architecture of the current FX series cpu's have 4modules/8cores. Each module has two cores in it. It is similar to hyperthreading but in a much less efficient way.

Well, that's not what I've read. And on the side of the 8350's box it says 4 physical cores and 4 logical cores. I think your mixed up.

[BlackOutCrisis]

Well, that's not what I've read. And on the side of the 8350's box it says 4 physical cores and 4 logical cores. I think your mixed up.

Then you have read wrong, also I could care less what you think the side of the box says. Go read up on the bulldozer/piledriver architecture before you tell people how a CPU works.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/fx-8150-zambezi-bulldozer-990fx,3043-3.html

[Ultimate_PIMP]

Don't get mad bro, it's what it says on the side of the box.

 

Guess you've never owned an 8350 before.

 

Then you have read wrong, also I could care less what you think the side of the box says. Go read up on the bulldozer/piledriver architecture before you tell people how a CPU works.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/fx-8150-zambezi-bulldozer-990fx,3043-3.html

[BlackOutCrisis]

 

Don't get mad bro, it's what it says on the side of the box.

 

Guess you've never owned an 8350 before.

 

Where in my post did I sound aggressive or mad? Also what does me owning a 8350 have to do with how the architecture is designed. Follow the link I gave you and educate yourself for once in your life...

[Ultimate_PIMP]

Then you have read wrong, also I could care less what you think the side of the box says. Go read up on the bulldozer/piledriver architecture before you tell people how a CPU works.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/fx-8150-zambezi-bulldozer-990fx,3043-3.html

 

Yah, pretty much the whole post. 

I talked about you not having an 8350 because you said, "I could care less what you think the side of the box says"

If you had one then you would know that it was there.

[Mophead]

Go for the 3770k. A YouTuber I regularly watch, JayzTwoCents, just changed back to Intel from the 8350 and I can tell you as a viewer that the quality of his streams has improved a great deal. Also check your internet connection, do some speed tests and try using XSplit, it will test your internet connection and set an optimal quality for streaming, your connection might not be enough to stream 720p video.

 

Good luck!

[Lays]

Almost all of the results have been proven wrong.

 

 

By who? Linus's results were nearly the same, except I believe Linus's tests the 3570k came out ahead, but he is SPONSORED by intel. I believe teksyndicate isn't sponsored by AMD or Intel. So in theory his results would be better and less biased.

 

 

Edit: I'm not trying to start drama between linus/logan, I'm just trying to figure out the whole story

[DjArtifact]

By who? Linus's results were nearly the same, except I believe Linus's tests the 3570k came out ahead, but he is SPONSORED by intel. I believe teksyndicate isn't sponsored by AMD or Intel. So in theory his results would be better and less biased.

 

 

Edit: I'm not trying to start drama between linus/logan, I'm just trying to figure out the whole story

Linus doesn't change his results to be better for Intel, but Logan's tests contradict pretty much every other test out there.