Intel motherboard alternative

[Mikus]

Hello, so i have a hard time deciding what kind of motherboard to buy. 

 

I have built allot of systems for small offices and I always based my systems on Intel motherboards, so that I could sleep peacefully at night and not get phone calls that the "computer isn't working"

And none my machines have failed a single time. But now Intel does not make their boards so I am in a little panic lol 

 

So my question is: what would be the manufacturer that I should look into for stable featureless workhorse of a board for simple office PC? I have heard that Foxconn was making the boards for intel, but I have not used any of their own boards, do you have any experience with those?

 

Perhaps Foxconn makes stable boards for someone else as well? I couldn't find much info on that. 

 

At the moment I am leaning towards Gigabyte boards but a friend of mine (also builds systems) said that he uses MSI and they are the best, but i have my doubts....

 

Also I have thought about brand PCs, but I don't like them very much since very often i cant customize them as I want to. (some random power supply, cheap RAM and no SSDs)

 

-Mikus

[brownninja97]

Hello, so i have a hard time deciding what kind of motherboard to buy. 

 

I have built allot of systems for small offices and I always based my systems on Intel motherboards, so that I could sleep peacefully at night and not get phone calls that the "computer isn't working"

And none my machines have failed a single time. But now Intel does not make their boards so I am in a little panic lol 

 

So my question is: what would be the manufacturer that I should look into for stable featureless workhorse of a board for simple office PC? I have heard that Foxconn was making the boards for intel, but I have not used any of their own boards, do you have any experience with those?

 

Perhaps Foxconn makes stable boards for someone else as well? I couldn't find much info on that. 

 

At the moment I am leaning towards Gigabyte boards but a friend of mine (also builds systems) said that he uses MSI and they are the best, but i have my doubts....

 

Also I have thought about brand PCs, but I don't like them very much since very often i cant customize them as I want to. (some random power supply, cheap RAM and no SSDs)

 

-Mikus

gigabyte has the most reliable boards, followed by foxcon and msi, asrock comes next and asus has been stone dead last in reliability for the past three years.

 

No gigabyte product has broken on before, well apart from that time i fell on a h61m and crushed the socket but thats not a fault of the board.

 

Ill try to find the tables and charts which showed me this. Either way i know gigabyte has the lowest failure rate.

[Tagiau]

Gigabyte makes reliable 24/7 use boards. 

[MasterRaceFanBoy]

Hello, so i have a hard time deciding what kind of motherboard to buy. 

 

I have built allot of systems for small offices and I always based my systems on Intel motherboards, so that I could sleep peacefully at night and not get phone calls that the "computer isn't working"

And none my machines have failed a single time. But now Intel does not make their boards so I am in a little panic lol 

 

So my question is: what would be the manufacturer that I should look into for stable featureless workhorse of a board for simple office PC? I have heard that Foxconn was making the boards for intel, but I have not used any of their own boards, do you have any experience with those?

 

Perhaps Foxconn makes stable boards for someone else as well? I couldn't find much info on that. 

 

At the moment I am leaning towards Gigabyte boards but a friend of mine (also builds systems) said that he uses MSI and they are the best, but i have my doubts....

 

Also I have thought about brand PCs, but I don't like them very much since very often i cant customize them as I want to. (some random power supply, cheap RAM and no SSDs)

 

-Mikus

all of them are good these days.. gigabyte, asus, asrock, msi, evga, the ones that i see  people don't buy so often are biostar for idk what reason.

[lx_srs]

Hello, so i have a hard time deciding what kind of motherboard to buy. 

 

I have built allot of systems for small offices and I always based my systems on Intel motherboards, so that I could sleep peacefully at night and not get phone calls that the "computer isn't working"

And none my machines have failed a single time. But now Intel does not make their boards so I am in a little panic lol 

 

So my question is: what would be the manufacturer that I should look into for stable featureless workhorse of a board for simple office PC? I have heard that Foxconn was making the boards for intel, but I have not used any of their own boards, do you have any experience with those?

 

Perhaps Foxconn makes stable boards for someone else as well? I couldn't find much info on that. 

 

At the moment I am leaning towards Gigabyte boards but a friend of mine (also builds systems) said that he uses MSI and they are the best, but i have my doubts....

 

Also I have thought about brand PCs, but I don't like them very much since very often i cant customize them as I want to. (some random power supply, cheap RAM and no SSDs)

 

-Mikus

Gigabyte boards are hands down the most reliable.  MSI boards are good, I wouldn't say that anyone is the best, but I'd probably go for Gigabyte over MSI.

[Altecice]

gigabyte has the most reliable boards, followed by foxcon and msi, asrock comes next and asus has been stone dead last in reliability for the past three years.

 

 

Source for this? I find it hard to believe the ROG series has low reliability.

 

Also i think a lot of it is down to personal experience, I myself would never touch an ASrock board because I have witnessed and seen so many issues/faults with them. But that's not to say everybody is the same.

[i_build_nanosuits]

gigabyte has the most reliable boards, followed by foxcon and msi, asrock comes next and asus has been stone dead last in reliability for the past three years.

 

 

Gigabyte boards are hands down the most reliable.  MSI boards are good, I wouldn't say that anyone is the best, but I'd probably go for Gigabyte over MSI.

wow haha that's utter bullshit!

[themaniac]

 

 

wow haha that's utter bullshit!

how is that utter BS

[Scia]

Hello, so i have a hard time deciding what kind of motherboard to buy. 

 

I have built allot of systems for small offices and I always based my systems on Intel motherboards, so that I could sleep peacefully at night and not get phone calls that the "computer isn't working"

And none my machines have failed a single time. But now Intel does not make their boards so I am in a little panic lol 

 

So my question is: what would be the manufacturer that I should look into for stable featureless workhorse of a board for simple office PC? I have heard that Foxconn was making the boards for intel, but I have not used any of their own boards, do you have any experience with those?

 

Perhaps Foxconn makes stable boards for someone else as well? I couldn't find much info on that. 

 

At the moment I am leaning towards Gigabyte boards but a friend of mine (also builds systems) said that he uses MSI and they are the best, but i have my doubts....

 

Also I have thought about brand PCs, but I don't like them very much since very often i cant customize them as I want to. (some random power supply, cheap RAM and no SSDs)

 

-Mikus

 

I'd go for gigabyte or MSI aswell. Probably Gigabyte over MSI  [eventhough I'm using an MSI -> Feature-reasons =P].

 

I have a linux box with some cheapo gigabyte b75m-d3h and it's been running pretty much 24/7 for the last 2-3 years without any issues. So ya, Gigabyte rocks.

 

Just stay as far away from ASUS as you can.

[i_build_nanosuits]

how is that utter BS

because EVERY SINGLE ONE of these manufacturers have good and not so good motherboards competing against each other in each tier of products and none of these company can be claimed ''Superior'' or ''more reliable overall'' than any of it's competitor...it's day by day, board by board...you would have to anyalyse the entire computer motherboard market from a very technical standpoint to be able to tell which one is in fact superior and it would be a very tough call and no one have the time to commit to such a research...and your personal opinions and feelings on this unfortunately means jackshit...that's why!

[themaniac]

because EVERY SINGLE ONE of these manufacturers have good and not so good motherboards competing against each other in each tier of products and none of these company can be claimed ''Superior'' or ''more reliable overall'' than any of it's competitor...it's day by day, board by board...you would have to anyalyse the entire computer motherboard market from a very technical standpoint to be able to tell which one is in fact superior and it would be a very tough call and no one have the time to commit to such a research...and your personal opinions and feelings on this unfortunately means jackshit...that's why!

ok

[lx_srs]

because EVERY SINGLE ONE of these manufacturers have good and not so good motherboards competing against each other in each tier of products and none of these company can be claimed ''Superior'' or ''more reliable overall'' than any of it's competitor...it's day by day, board by board...you would have to anyalyse the entire computer motherboard market from a very technical standpoint to be able to tell which one is in fact superior and it would be a very tough call and no one have the time to commit to such a research...and your personal opinions and feelings on this unfortunately means jackshit...that's why!

While none can be considered superior in every way, Gigabyte boards are incredibly reliable.  I've never had one die on me, ever, and I know many people that agree.

[i_build_nanosuits]

While none can be considered superior in every way, Gigabyte boards are incredibly reliable.  I've never had one die on me, ever, and I know many people that agree.

OKay...so that's what? 3, 4...maybe 5 gigabyte boards that havnt failed on you...out of what? 60 millions boards sold during this timespan maybe? so we know that AT LEAST 0.000000083333333% of gigabyte's motherboard where reliable (for the use you've made out of them of course)...

it's a good start...anyone else would wan't to add his own experience with gigabyte boards in the pool? maybe at the end of the day we will be able to trace a vague portrait of how good these boards really are don't you think? ...(I HOPE YOU SEE WHERE I'M GOING WITH THIS THAT TIME)

Personaly i owned 2 gigabytes boards, one of them operated perfectly until i sold it to upgrade to something better and the other one had the second pcie slot dying on me after about 3 months had to RMA it and now i have it on my shelf this board is useless to me now...so for me it's 50/50...we are now at 7 boards i guess and one of them failed already...and BTW both boards from gigabyte had very poor CPU fanspeed management and bad softwares coming packed with them which is a common problem across ALL the gigabyte boards...only something to consider.

[teddyteddyteddy]

OKay...so that's what? 3, 4...maybe 5 gigabyte boards that havnt failed on you...out of what? 60 millions boards sold during this timespan maybe? so we know that AT LEAST 0.000000083333333% of gigabyte's motherboard where reliable (for the use you've made out of them of course)...

it's a good start...anyone else would wan't to add his own experience with gigabyte boards in the pool? maybe at the end of the day we will be able to trace a vague portrait of how good these boards really are don't you think? ...(I HOPE YOU SEE WHERE I'M GOING WITH THIS THAT TIME)

you can add me to the pool.  I've had a gigabyte motherboard for about 3 and a half months now and it hasn't failed yet! I think it's safe to say that gigabyte is easily the best mobo company.  haven't used any other brand though so can't comment on them

[i_build_nanosuits]

you can add me to the pool.  I've had a gigabyte motherboard for about 3 and a half months now and it hasn't failed yet! I think it's safe to say that gigabyte is easily the best mobo company.  haven't used any other brand though so can't comment on them

lol...hell yeah...ok..who's next

[lx_srs]

OKay...so that's what? 3, 4...maybe 5 gigabyte boards that havnt failed on you...out of what? 60 millions boards sold during this timespan maybe? so we know that AT LEAST 0.000000083333333% of gigabyte's motherboard where reliable (for the use you've made out of them of course)...

it's a good start...anyone else would wan't to add his own experience with gigabyte boards in the pool? maybe at the end of the day we will be able to trace a vague portrait of how good these boards really are don't you think? ...(I HOPE YOU SEE WHERE I'M GOING WITH THIS THAT TIME)

Personaly i owned 2 gigabytes boards, one of them operated perfectly until i sold it to upgrade to something better and the other one had the second pcie slot dying on me after about 3 months had to RMA it and now i have it on my shelf this board is useless to me now...so for me it's 50/50...we are now at 7 boards i guess and one of them failed already...and BTW both boards from gigabyte had very poor CPU fanspeed management and bad softwares coming packed with them which is a common problem across ALL the gigabyte boards...only something to consider.

I hear you man. No need to all caps an entire sentence.

[i_build_nanosuits]

I hear you man. No need to all caps an entire sentence.

sorry i didn't meant to be mean or anything...just want people to realise that such comments are pure speculations and opinions also known as fanboyism and we don't like that.

[lx_srs]

sorry i didn't meant to be mean or anything...just want people to realise that such comments are pure speculations and opinions also known as fanboyism and we don't like that.

I get that. I hate fanboying too

[Faa]

As far as I know Foxconn makes the socket, think IO ports as well. I usually don't recommend people a motherboard, if I do, I recommend them the cheapest out there regardless of what I like. I'd say chose between Asrock/MSI/Asus/Gigabyte.

 

Ill try to find the tables and charts which showed me this. Either way i know gigabyte has the lowest failure rate.

Yeah failure rates were like;

Brand 1 4.83%
Brand 2 4.77%
Brand 3 4.75%

Brand 4 4.87%

Taken from a shop. Asrock/MSI/Giga/Asus. You realize those numbers actually mean nothing right? I managed to kill the soundchip like so many times by dropping accidently a screw on it when installing or removing a GPU, not that I know the exact reason why it was damaged, I always managed to get an RMA. Dropped like two hard drives on the floor, none of them worked anymore, RMA'ed. Some shops give you a full refund after a year even, these days smart people are upgrading their PC with RMA's. I wouldn't mind now that my board goes bang, I'd love it. Probably will go towards a X99 system. Right now that you know many people will abuse the yoloness of RMA's, move on to how many boards were actually DOA. I prefer a board arriving DOA rather than it dies after a few months. That should be down to somewhere like 4%. How many are being sold? 60K? Well that's great.

http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/108284-huge-list-of-failure-rates-on-pc-components-french-but-i-translated-nearly-everything/

There you go, compare it with SSDs, should give you an idea now how reliable Asrock/Asus/Giga/MSI are.

[brownninja97]

 

 

wow haha that's utter bullshit!

Im not talking about product quality or ability, im talking about reliability of which asus is lowest. They also have shockingly bad customer service. I like asus but i will not buy their products until i see an improve in that failure rate

As far as I know Foxconn makes the socket, think IO ports as well. I usually don't recommend people a motherboard, if I do, I recommend them the cheapest out there regardless of what I like. I'd say chose between Asrock/MSI/Asus/Gigabyte.

 

Yeah failure rates were like;

Brand 1 4.83%

Brand 2 4.77%

Brand 3 4.75%

Brand 4 4.87%

Taken from a shop. Asrock/MSI/Giga/Asus. You realize those numbers actually mean nothing right? I managed to kill the soundchip like so many times by dropping accidently a screw on it when installing or removing a GPU, not that I know the exact reason why it was damaged, I always managed to get an RMA. Dropped like two hard drives on the floor, none of them worked anymore, RMA'ed. Some shops give you a full refund after a year even, these days smart people are upgrading their PC with RMA's. I wouldn't mind now that my board goes bang, I'd love it. Probably will go towards a X99 system. Right now that you know many people will abuse the yoloness of RMA's, move on to how many boards were actually DOA. I prefer a board arriving DOA rather than it dies after a few months. That should be down to somewhere like 4%. How many are being sold? 60K? Well that's great.

http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/108284-huge-list-of-failure-rates-on-pc-components-french-but-i-translated-nearly-everything/

There you go, compare it with SSDs, should give you an idea now how reliable Asrock/Asus/Giga/MSI are.

i had evidence from another source, the numbers are a sort of benchmark also there is the physical evidence that my asus products(of which ive built a few dozen for customers) have died either on arrival or during use more then others. In the end it comes to dont to an each to their own issue. I have evidence that conflicts with other peoples information, arguing doesnt solve anything, nothing you say can change my mind, why is that. Well so far 4 asus products ive brought all for customers have broke, ive had trouble with the asus customer service everytime so rma takes a few weeks or months instead of a few days. Msi rma in under a week, so do asrock, so do evga, so do sapphire and the list goes on. No gigabyte products ive brought have died apart from a fault on my part(dont fall on a motherboard, it will die) so i will carry on buying their products until something effects that. 

[Mikus]

Thank you all, I guess then i will go and find myself a Gigabyte board that would suite my needs, hopefully they will be as good as you all say they are.

Hopefully they will be as reliable as Intel boards was. 
Found some warehouses that still has few of Intel boards so i still have some time before they run out.