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You guys seem to forget you can get a 30% OC with ease on a B85 board with stockcooler. For gaming, even when comparing dual vs quad, IPC > cores. 2 Haswell cores at 4.2-4.4ghz still beat 4 Kaveri/Richland cores by margin.

Taking an offmarket cooler into consideration for both builds, and there is just no contest

 

Budget build... that's what we are talking about.

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Hello everyone, are you having a nice day?

I am thinking about building a budget system/rig as at the time I do not have the finance to build a CONSOLE KILLER but I want to do some PC gaming and I don't want to go back to consoles. I have built pc's before and I am not really new to the concept but it has been a while and I am not really familiar with what it takes to run modern titles. I know dual core can push through and manage to play some titles however I don't know which.

 

 I was oiginally planning on getting a Intel pentium g3258 but due to budget constraints and my current computer dying I would prefer to go cheaper so I would not have to wait very long while I save towards it.. I was looking at an article and I am seeing that a bunch of amd a series processor is going for a cheap price and I was wondering if it would be better if I:

 

1.Go with the cheapest amd dual core which runs at 3.7 ghz. I can't buy a GPU as yet that is why I want an apu to do some light gaming while I save up for a R7 260x / R7 265.

 

2.Go with the pentium g3258 and overclock it.

 

3.Go with a amd quad core cpu on the am1 platform.

 

I ran into a problem with option (2) and I don't know how true it is but (correct me if I am wrong) the g3256 needs z97 motherboard to be able to overclock it  which would defeat the purpose of getting it for a budget system.

 

I also want to ask another question which is what are the drawback of using a dual core amd CPU nowadays and is it possible to run AAA games on a $30-$50 APU. How long do you guys think I could get by using a amd apu and a R7 265 before I would have to upgrade. Please provide me with suggestions, they will be greatly appreciated. 

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Yes, especially with intel, HyperThreading keeps it running perfectly fine on new games.

 

I can run any new game on my i3-4130 without any noticeable bottleneck; and you can overlock the bejesus out of the new Pentiums, and a highly OC one can beat a top-tier i3 chip. But, Pentiums don't have HT, so they are stuck with two cores.

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i agree with bubble a dual core cpu for gaming in 2014 wont make sense IMHO including the g3258 id much rather have an overclocked amd fm2 quadcore chip personaly.

 

a core i3 is an ''okay'' choice but a core i5 is much better...you can catch a good deal on locked core i5 atm.

 

...and no dual core amd is not an option, those are way to slow to play games.

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The new Richland is a beast for the price.

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I ran into a problem with option (2) and I don't know how true it is but (correct me if I am wrong) the g3256 needs z97 motherboard to be able to overclock it  which would defeat the purpose of getting it for a budget system.

 

 

You could always buy a g3258 now and OC it to the moon. Then buy a 4690k or 4790k once the prices go down...

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The new Richland is a beast for the price.

i agree, if i was to build a gaming rig on eXtremely tight budget thats the cpu to go with.

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i agree with bubble a dual core cpu for gaming in 2014 wont make sense IMHO including the g3258 id much rather have an overclocked amd fm2 quadcore chip personaly.

 

a core i3 is an ''okay'' choice but a core i5 is much better...you can catch a good deal on locked core i5 atm.

 

...and no dual core amd is not an option, those are way to slow to play games.

Most gaming benchmarks I've seen (or the ones that I remember seeing -- Toms Hardware) puts the G3258 performance very similar if not just edging out a 760k in most games ranging from WoW, BF4, Last Light, and some other cpu and gpu intensive games (iirc). And by going with the G3258 he can get a new pc now like he wants to and not have to wait until he can also get a gpu--which he would have to do if he was getting a 760k. Plus, I'd still go with the G3258 myself since it does provide a viable upgrade path. Although, I guess even with a 760k, at most one would be throwing out $50~ by getting a new board/cpu.

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^ this 

G3258 Is absolutety monster even 860K OC Still lower than G3258 Stock

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G3258 Is absolutety monster even 860K OC Still lower than G3258 Stock

 

That's dual vs. quad core.

 

The G3258 doesn't have hyperthreading.  

 

The Richmond or Athalon has the advantage reguardless of clock speed. 

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That's dual vs. quad core.

 

The G3258 doesn't have hyperthreading.  

 

The Richmond or Athalon has the advantage reguardless of clock speed. 

http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-G3258-vs-AMD-Athlon-X4-760K

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That's raw core power, not benchmarks when used in applications.  (eg. games)

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That's raw core power, not benchmarks when used in applications.  (eg. games)

watch that austin video if you still doesn't get it 

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You guys seem to forget you can get a 30% OC with ease on a B85 board with stockcooler. For gaming, even when comparing dual vs quad, IPC > cores. 2 Haswell cores at 4.2-4.4ghz still beat 4 Kaveri/Richland cores by margin.

Taking an offmarket cooler into consideration for both builds, and there is just no contest

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Well I recall having a better gaming experience on my A10 5800K / 7950 than I did on my G3258 / 7950 in titles I play. But that might have been because I'd just come from a 2600K.

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You guys seem to forget you can get a 30% OC with ease on a B85 board with stockcooler. For gaming, even when comparing dual vs quad, IPC > cores. 2 Haswell cores at 4.2-4.4ghz still beat 4 Kaveri/Richland cores by margin.

Taking an offmarket cooler into consideration for both builds, and there is just no contest

I did not know that I just thought that you needed a z97 board to overclock this chip. I chose these chips because I like these chips specifically however I would like to upgrade and not need to buy a new board because I don't intend to spend too much money every time I decide to upgrade, money I could spend on a gpu and a better cpu. I thought about getting a athlon x4 760k but that would mean I would have to get a GPU right away. I want something to use not so much to game with but be able to use while I save towards a new GPU and then I can game. I have watched the Austin Evans build video.

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You guys seem to forget you can get a 30% OC with ease on a B85 board with stockcooler. For gaming, even when comparing dual vs quad, IPC > cores. 2 Haswell cores at 4.2-4.4ghz still beat 4 Kaveri/Richland cores by margin.

Taking an offmarket cooler into consideration for both builds, and there is just no contest

 

Budget build... that's what we are talking about.

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Budget build... that's what we are talking about.

 

B85

STOCK COOLER

 

Exactly how much more budget are we talking here, ATOM?

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B85

STOCK COOLER

 

Exactly how much more budget are we talking here, ATOM?

 

If you OCed both these chips on stock cooling on base grade boards, the Athlon would win because of the two extra cores.  In a situation where you could go ballz to the wallz overclocking, the Pentium would win because of it's massive overclocking capability.

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If you OCed both these chips on stock cooling on base grade boards, the Athlon would win because of the two extra cores.  In a situation where you could go ballz to the wallz overclocking, the Pentium would win because of it's massive overclocking capability.

 

4.2ghz is a 31% OC for the G3258. You won't get 5.2ghz on the 860K on stockcooler to make up for the fact it is twice as slow per-core. The G3258 will nail any AMD chip in both Single and Multithreaded performance, at it's pricepoint and even well above it's pricepoint. I don't understand why this is so difficult to comprehend.

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Watch austin video i share for benchmark result !!!

CPU BOSS IS BS

They only compare specs, not benchmarks.

http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/222176-your-opinions-on-cpuboss-and-gpuboss/

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Watch austin video i share for benchmark result !!!

 

Just stop.

I'm aware that the G3258 is a good starter gaming chip, but it's not that great to use in the long haul. X4 860K gets my vote.

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