pc help

[Sambo656]

this is the pc build http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Nh93sY but i need help choosing a cpu and mobo, this is a gaming build, 200$ max for cpu and mobo.(but if you can go cheaper that would be awesome)  preferably one that doesnt require a bios update.thank you

[Krzyimprt]

this is the pc build http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Nh93sY but i need help choosing a cpu and mobo, this is a gaming build, 200$ max for cpu and mobo. preferably one that doesnt require a bios update.thank you

i5 4460 and a z97 board. Asus Z97-A?

[AlwaysFSX]

Okay first of all...get rid of the fans, or at least almost all of them.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor  ($107.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper TX3 54.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($17.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus M5A99FX PRO R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard  ($124.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Patriot Viper 3 Low Profile Blue 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($72.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Corsair Force LX Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($69.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($54.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: XFX Radeon R9 280X 3GB Double Dissipation Video Card  ($224.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($33.04 @ Mwave)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Gateway KX2153 Abd 60Hz 21.5" Monitor  ($119.98 @ OutletPC)
Case Fan: Cooler Master R4-L2R-20AC-GP 69.0 CFM 120mm  Fan  ($7.95 @ OutletPC)
Case Fan: Cooler Master R4-L2R-20AC-GP 69.0 CFM 120mm  Fan  ($7.95 @ OutletPC)
Keyboard: Cooler Master CM Storm Devastator Gaming Bundle Wired Gaming Keyboard w/Optical Mouse  ($24.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $927.83
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-10-28 19:17 EDT-0400

[Pugs501]

I'm thinking he needs an AMD.

[Krzyimprt]

I'm thinking he needs an AMD.

No.. just no..

[Pugs501]

No.. just no..

*Snip*

Why not?  

Don't forget it needs to include CPU AND Mobo!

Combo

IT's just 1$ over but it looks good!

[Krzyimprt]

Why not?  

Don't forget it needs to include CPU AND Mobo!

Combo

IT's just 1$ over but it looks good!

I'd rather have him wait a few more weeks or so and get an i5.

[Sambo656]

Why not?  

Don't forget it needs to include CPU AND Mobo!

Combo

IT's just 1$ over but it looks good!

intel is better ive heard

[Pugs501]

intel is better ive heard

Reasons that only biased people will tell you.

[Sambo656]

i5 4460 and a z97 board. Asus Z97-A?

i have a 30$ new egg gift card so that would make the difference between an i5 4460 and an i5 4570 10$ is the difference worth 10$? and asus z97-a is too much plus arent 4460 and 4570 locked cores making z97 OCing useless?

Reasons that only biased people will tell you.

i actually did just notice that the amd one did have a faster core speed

[Pugs501]

i actually did just notice that the amd one did have a faster core speed

DON'T EVER JUDGE A CPU/GPU BY IT'S SPECS!

[Faceman]

intel is better ive heard

Intel is better for gaming.  You should not buy any case fans.  Case fans can easily be added to your build as you get more money.  Core components, not so much.

 

Buy an i5 for gaming.  It is the best gaming processor.  Even a locked i5 > massively overclocked FX8.

 

Benchmarks:

http://www.hardcoreware.net/intel-core-i3-4340-review/2/

http://www.hardwarepal.com/best-cpu-gaming-9-processors-8-games-tested/4/

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-fx-8370e-cpu,3929-7.html

http://www.anandtech.com/show/8427/amd-fx-8370e-cpu-review-vishera-95w/3

 

"To put it nicely, the FX-8370E is a true middle-of-the-road CPU. Using it only makes sense as long as the graphics card you choose comes from a similar performance segment.

Depending on the game in question, AMD’s new processor has the potential to keep you happy around the AMD Radeon R9 270X/285 or Nvidia GeForce GTX 760 or 660 Ti level.

A higher- or even high-end graphics card doesn’t make sense, as pairing it with AMD's FX-8370E simply limits the card's potential."

-Tom's

 

"The FX-8370E stretches its legs a little in terms of minimum frame rates, particularly in SLI, however it is handily beaten by the i3-4330."

-Anandtech

 

When an i3 is beating an FX8, thats about the time that you don't consider an FX processor for gaming.

 

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/N7yJNG

Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/N7yJNG/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i5-4440 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($184.98 @ SuperBiiz)

Motherboard: ASRock H81 Pro BTC ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($41.99 @ Newegg)

Memory: Patriot Viper 3 Low Profile Blue 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($67.99 @ Newegg)

Storage: A-Data Premier Pro SP600 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($59.99 @ Amazon)

Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($53.95 @ Amazon)

Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 280 3GB TWIN FROZR Video Card  ($169.99 @ Newegg)

Case: NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($33.04 @ Mwave)

Power Supply: EVGA 600B 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($39.99 @ Newegg)

Monitor: Acer H226HQLbid 60Hz 21.5" Monitor  ($119.99 @ Newegg)

Keyboard: Cooler Master CM Storm Devastator Gaming Bundle Wired Gaming Keyboard w/Optical Mouse  ($24.99 @ NCIX US)

Total: $796.90

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-10-28 20:39 EDT-0400

 

Will be better for gaming than any FX processor.  Buy quality core components now, add fans later.

 

Do you live near a Microcenter?

[i_build_nanosuits]

Limited time offer on the motherboard, you get a very nice board for such a low price...i also removed some fans and left only 2...i don,t know why you think you'd need that much fans...the TX3 is not needed either, revised build:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4440 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor ($184.98 @ SuperBiiz)

Motherboard: MSI Z87-G41 PC Mate ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($53.00 @ Newegg)

Memory: Patriot Viper 3 Low Profile Blue 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($67.99 @ Newegg)

Storage: Corsair Force LX Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($69.99 @ NCIX US)

Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.98 @ OutletPC)

Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 280 3GB TWIN FROZR Video Card ($169.99 @ Newegg)

Case: NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($33.04 @ Mwave)

Power Supply: Corsair Builder 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ Micro Center)

Monitor: Gateway KX2153 Abd 60Hz 21.5" Monitor ($119.98 @ OutletPC)

Case Fan: Cooler Master R4-L2R-20AC-GP 69.0 CFM 120mm Fan ($7.95 @ OutletPC)

Case Fan: Cooler Master R4-L2R-20AC-GP 69.0 CFM 120mm Fan ($7.95 @ OutletPC)

Keyboard: Cooler Master CM Storm Devastator Gaming Bundle Wired Gaming Keyboard w/Optical Mouse ($24.99 @ NCIX US)

Total: $844.83

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-10-28 20:37 EDT-0400

[Sambo656]

Intel is better for gaming.  You should not buy any case fans.  Case fans can easily be added to your build as you get more money.  Core components, not so much.

 

Buy an i5 for gaming.  It is the best gaming processor.  Even a locked i5 > massively overclocked FX8.

 

Benchmarks:

http://www.hardcoreware.net/intel-core-i3-4340-review/2/

http://www.hardwarepal.com/best-cpu-gaming-9-processors-8-games-tested/4/

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-fx-8370e-cpu,3929-7.html

http://www.anandtech.com/show/8427/amd-fx-8370e-cpu-review-vishera-95w/3

 

"To put it nicely, the FX-8370E is a true middle-of-the-road CPU. Using it only makes sense as long as the graphics card you choose comes from a similar performance segment.

Depending on the game in question, AMD’s new processor has the potential to keep you happy around the AMD Radeon R9 270X/285 or Nvidia GeForce GTX 760 or 660 Ti level.

A higher- or even high-end graphics card doesn’t make sense, as pairing it with AMD's FX-8370E simply limits the card's potential."

-Tom's

 

"The FX-8370E stretches its legs a little in terms of minimum frame rates, particularly in SLI, however it is handily beaten by the i3-4330."

-Anandtech

 

When an i3 is beating an FX8, thats about the time that you don't consider an FX processor for gaming.

 

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/N7yJNG

Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/N7yJNG/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i5-4440 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($184.98 @ SuperBiiz)

Motherboard: ASRock H81 Pro BTC ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($41.99 @ Newegg)

Memory: Patriot Viper 3 Low Profile Blue 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($67.99 @ Newegg)

Storage: A-Data Premier Pro SP600 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($59.99 @ Amazon)

Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($53.95 @ Amazon)

Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 280 3GB TWIN FROZR Video Card  ($169.99 @ Newegg)

Case: NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($33.04 @ Mwave)

Power Supply: EVGA 600B 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($39.99 @ Newegg)

Monitor: Acer H226HQLbid 60Hz 21.5" Monitor  ($119.99 @ Newegg)

Keyboard: Cooler Master CM Storm Devastator Gaming Bundle Wired Gaming Keyboard w/Optical Mouse  ($24.99 @ NCIX US)

Total: $796.90

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-10-28 20:39 EDT-0400

 

Will be better for gaming than any FX processor.  Buy quality core components now, add fans later.

 

Do you live near a Microc.

i dont live near a microcenter. i can get an i5 4460 for 160$ and i can get an i5 4570 for 170$ since i have a 30$ newegg gift card and i wouldnt buy anything else from them. what do you think i should do? also would i have to do a bios update with that mobo?

[i_build_nanosuits]

i dont live near a microcenter

i can get an i5 4460 for 160$ and i can get an i5 4570 for 170$ since i have a 30$ newegg gift card and i wouldnt buy anything else from them. what do you think i should do? also would i have to do a bios update with that mobo?

The core i5-4570 will work in any socket 1150 motherboard without requiring a bios update, it is also a superior CPU to the i5-4460, i'd go with that and the MSI Z87 PC MATE motherboard i suggested if possible.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130695&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=

Use promo code EMCWPHF93

[Faceman]

i dont live near a microcenter. i can get an i5 4460 for 160$ and i can get an i5 4570 for 170$ since i have a 30$ newegg gift card and i wouldnt buy anything else from them. what do you think i should do? also would i have to do a bios update with that mobo?

Nope, no BIOS update required.  As long as you get the i5-4570 processor you won't need to BIOS update.  Also, I just saw a fantastic deal that you might want to consider, the MSI Z87 G41-PC Mate on Newegg for ~$50.  It will match your blue RAM very well, also comes with a few extra features, and still no BIOS update required.  I don't know if you're interested in overclocking or not, but that is a Z series motherboard, so that means if you buy an unlocked(k) processor, you will be able to overclock it easily.  This is not required for gaming, and only a few games will benefit from overclocking the Intel processors.  If you do decide to spend a little more for an unlocked processor, make sure it is the i5-4670k.  Not the i5-4690k.  The i5-4690k will not be compatible.  Get the i5-4670k or the i5-4570.

 

Here is what your final build should look like:

 

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/d4GKNG

Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/d4GKNG/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i5-4570 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($170.00)

Motherboard: MSI Z87-G41 PC Mate ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($53.00 @ Newegg)

Memory: Patriot Viper 3 Low Profile Blue 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($67.99 @ Newegg)

Storage: A-Data Premier Pro SP600 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($59.99 @ Amazon)

Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($53.95 @ Amazon)

Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 280 3GB TWIN FROZR Video Card  ($169.99 @ Newegg)

Case: NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($33.04 @ Mwave)

Power Supply: EVGA 600B 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($39.99 @ Newegg) <-- better PSU than the CX.

Monitor: Acer H226HQLbid 60Hz 21.5" Monitor  ($119.99 @ Newegg) <-- Get this monitor, much better monitor.

Keyboard: Cooler Master CM Storm Devastator Gaming Bundle Wired Gaming Keyboard w/Optical Mouse  ($24.99 @ NCIX US)

Total: $792.93

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-10-28 20:55 EDT-0400

[i_build_nanosuits]

Snip!

lol exactly what i suggested...if only Faceman wouldnt have set me on his ignore list...

[Sambo656]

Limited time offer on the motherboard, you get a very nice board for such a low price...i also removed some fans and left only 2...i don,t know why you think you'd need that much fans...the TX3 is not needed either, revised build:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4440 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor ($184.98 @ SuperBiiz)

Motherboard: MSI Z87-G41 PC Mate ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($53.00 @ Newegg)

Memory: Patriot Viper 3 Low Profile Blue 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($67.99 @ Newegg)

Storage: Corsair Force LX Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($69.99 @ NCIX US)

Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.98 @ OutletPC)

Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 280 3GB TWIN FROZR Video Card ($169.99 @ Newegg)

Case: NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($33.04 @ Mwave)

Power Supply: Corsair Builder 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ Micro Center)

Monitor: Gateway KX2153 Abd 60Hz 21.5" Monitor ($119.98 @ OutletPC)

Case Fan: Cooler Master R4-L2R-20AC-GP 69.0 CFM 120mm Fan ($7.95 @ OutletPC)

Case Fan: Cooler Master R4-L2R-20AC-GP 69.0 CFM 120mm Fan ($7.95 @ OutletPC)

Keyboard: Cooler Master CM Storm Devastator Gaming Bundle Wired Gaming Keyboard w/Optical Mouse ($24.99 @ NCIX US)

Total: $844.83

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-10-28 20:37 EDT-0400

i can get an i5 4460 for 160$ and i can get an i5 4570 for 170$ since i have a 30$ newegg gift card and i wouldnt buy anything else from them. what do you think i should do? 

[i_build_nanosuits]

i can get an i5 4460 for 160$ and i can get an i5 4570 for 170$ since i have a 30$ newegg gift card and i wouldnt buy anything else from them. what do you think i should do? 

already answered:

The core i5-4570 will work in any socket 1150 motherboard without requiring a bios update, it is also a superior CPU to the i5-4460, i'd go with that and the MSI Z87 PC MATE motherboard i suggested if possible.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130695&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=

Use promo code EMCWPHF93

[Sambo656]

Nope, no BIOS update required.  As long as you get the i5-4570 processor you won't need to BIOS update.  Also, I just saw a fantastic deal that you might want to consider, the MSI Z87 G41-PC Mate on Newegg for ~$50.  It will match your blue RAM very well, also comes with a few extra features, and still no BIOS update required.  I don't know if you're interested in overclocking or not, but that is a Z series motherboard, so that means if you buy an unlocked(k) processor, you will be able to overclock it easily.  This is not required for gaming, and only a few games will benefit from overclocking the Intel processors.  If you do decide to spend a little more for an unlocked processor, make sure it is the i5-4670k.  Not the i5-4690k.  The i5-4690k will not be compatible.  Get the i5-4670k or the i5-4570.

 

Here is what your final build should look like:

 

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/d4GKNG

Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/d4GKNG/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i5-4570 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($170.00)

Motherboard: MSI Z87-G41 PC Mate ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($53.00 @ Newegg)

Memory: Patriot Viper 3 Low Profile Blue 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($67.99 @ Newegg)

Storage: A-Data Premier Pro SP600 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($59.99 @ Amazon)

Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($53.95 @ Amazon)

Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 280 3GB TWIN FROZR Video Card  ($169.99 @ Newegg)

Case: NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($33.04 @ Mwave)

Power Supply: EVGA 600B 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($39.99 @ Newegg) <-- better PSU than the CX.

Monitor: Acer H226HQLbid 60Hz 21.5" Monitor  ($119.99 @ Newegg) <-- Get this monitor, much better monitor.

Keyboard: Cooler Master CM Storm Devastator Gaming Bundle Wired Gaming Keyboard w/Optical Mouse  ($24.99 @ NCIX US)

Total: $792.93

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-10-28 20:55 EDT-0400

i have seen bad reviews for the pc mate mobo, but those people may have simply received faulty boards, what do you think? 

[i_build_nanosuits]

i have seen bad reviews for the pc mate mobo, but those people may have simply received faulty boards, what do you think? 

it's a very good motherboard don't worry.

[Sambo656]

it's a very good motherboard don't worry.

ok i trust your judgement