AMD vs. Nvidia

[SoggyPenguin1]

Hello. I have a question regarding the rivalry between AMD and Nvidia. I just don't get why several people on forums clash out to each other about which one is better. I personally pick on how much FPS you can get on a certain card for a good price. I don't mean to start a war here on this forum but I'm just curious... Which is better: AMD or Nvidia?

[Interfectorem]

Neither. They both leapfrog each other constantly. They both have different features and mindsets.

 

EDIT: Please delete Thread, This will just draw out the fanboys.

[aduman]

Hello. I have a question regarding the rivalry between AMD and Nvidia. I just don't get why several people on forums clash out to each other about which one is better. I personally pick on how much FPS you can get on a certain card for a good price. I don't mean to start a war here on this forum but I'm just curious... Which is better: AMD or Nvidia?

 

Don't get me wrong but please just ask the mods to eradicate this thread, otherwise there will be a crazy amount of shit-storms and clusterfucks here.

 

We need them both for competition, that's it. Only competition sides with the consumer.

[FreezeFlyte]

There are multiple threads out there on this subject. Its all a personal choice. There is no comparison. They both have benefits and draw backs. Please delete this post cause its just going to cause a flame war

[Jeroendedoem]

Pls don't do this, this is going to be an never stopping fan boy war. 

Me PERSONAL like nvidia more, although overal prive/performance of amd is better. Except 970... (This is my opinion don't start the hate)

[TheKDub]

Nvidia.

 

[Guest Kloaked]

Nvidia GTX

- Pros

• PhysX - Only in select games, but looks damn good.
• HairWorks - Again, only in select games that implement it, but looks damn good.
• TXAA - Another exclusive effect, but looks damn good in the games that support it and are actually optimized for it (Splinter Cell: Blacklist runs it like shit).
• GeForce Experience - Able to optimize visual settings for your games automatically based on your preferences and hardware. Also comes with GameStream and Shadowplay.
• GameStream - If you own an Nvidia Shield device, you can stream your games to said mobile device and play your games away from your PC and even on another network via internet.
• ShadowPlay - You can record your gameplay via hardware accelerated H.264 encoder which will already be compressed and not a gigantic file like what you would get with say, Fraps. While using ShadowPlay you can also stream to Twitch in a more efficient way.
• EVGA - Offers a very great warranty on all of their GTX products and will work with you to make you happy if you have an issue.

- Cons

• GeForce Experience is still iffy for many users, giving issues ranging from not booting up, ShadowPlay not working properly and one that personally bothers me is not downloading and installing GPU drivers properly.
• Poor price-to-performance compared to Radeon.
• Nvidia sucks at marketing

AMD Radeon

- Pros

• Mantle - An alternate API to DirectX exclusive to Radeon at the moment. Gives performance boosts in games that support it over DirectX, but the boosts vary depending on your setup.
• TressFX - Makes hair looks more realistic. The effect is no longer exclusive to Radeon cards, but it will run better on those video cards compared to the competition.
• TrueAudio - A great alternative to 'surround sound' to theoretically give more precision and immersiveness to your environmental audio.
• Price-To-Performance - Absolutely blows away Nvidia in the price-to-performance department. You get way more bang for your buck, as always with AMD.
• Drivers - Reason I listed this as a pro: Radeon's drivers are getting way better, so ignore the people shouting that Radeon's drivers suck, because they're not as bad as they used to be. I see just as many people complain about Nvidia in the same department.
• AMD Gaming Evolved - AMD's counter to GeForce Experience and does what the competition does, but you can also get rewards for simply playing your games. The rewards you get varies on the points you have.
• Sapphire - Sapphire make some of the sexiest coolers and the quietest coolers for Radeon cards.

- Cons

• Many people complain of DoA (dead on arrival) and cards not functioning properly later down the road, more than the competition it would seem. This isn't 100% a fact, however. Take this with a grain of salt.
• AMD's highest end 290x does not beat a 780ti in most areas, but only loses by a bit.
• AMD absolutely sucks at marketing and naming conventions, and some decisions they make, make absolutely no sense. Could be said about both companies.

 

- Conclusion

Both vendors have excellent products. Like every single piece of tech on the market, it is all prone to DoA and malfunctions down the road. This is why you choose the appropriate aftermarket manufacturer, such as EVGA (GTX exclusive) or Sapphire (Radeon exclusive). Everyone on this forum can agree that both companies absolutely suck at marketing. Nvidia says their Titan cards are gaming cards, which isn't the whole story that they try to sell, AMD keeps rebranding things with only little improvements and so on. They both make stupid decisions but they do it for business reasons, even though they are still stupid. Did I mention they make stupid decisions?

tl;dr, pick your card and don't be a brand whore.

[Briggsy]

I'm a fan of both Nvidia and AMD, and oppose anyone who is only a fan of one side    :lol: 

[Thorium19]

It is entirely dependent upon the situation for which is better, there is no set rule as to which is the best outright. I personally hold no brand allegiances, so I will go for whichever is the best at the price I require and fulfils my requirements.

[Juganog]

Neither are "better" Nvidia are ahead at the moment... it changes a lot.. best to go with performance / price / power consumption rather than AMD or Nvidia 

[SoggyPenguin1]

Well it looks like some people want me to delete this thread or else a war will start.. Here it came, there it goes. 

Also, how do you delete a thread? (Kind of a noob here.)

[EarthboundHero]

I'm not a fanboy of either. AMD has better price to performance, while nVidia has more extras features and power consumption. 

[The_Strict_Nein]

Nvidia GTX

- Pros

• PhysX - Only in select games, but looks damn good.
• HairWorks - Again, only in select games that implement it, but looks damn good.
• TXAA - Another exclusive effect, but looks damn good in the games that support it and are actually optimized for it (Splinter Cell: Blacklist runs it like shit).
• GeForce Experience - Able to optimize visual settings for your games automatically based on your preferences and hardware. Also comes with GameStream and Shadowplay.
• GameStream - If you own an Nvidia Shield device, you can stream your games to said mobile device and play your games away from your PC and even on another network via internet.
• ShadowPlay - You can record your gameplay via hardware accelerated H.264 encoder which will already be compressed and not a gigantic file like what you would get with say, Fraps. While using ShadowPlay you can also stream to Twitch in a more efficient way.
• EVGA - Offers a very great warranty on all of their GTX products and will work with you to make you happy if you have an issue.

- Cons

• GeForce Experience is still iffy for many users, giving issues ranging from not booting up, ShadowPlay not working properly and one that personally bothers me is not downloading and installing GPU drivers properly.
• Poor price-to-performance compared to Radeon.
• Nvidia sucks at marketing

AMD Radeon

- Pros

• Mantle - An alternate API to DirectX exclusive to Radeon at the moment. Gives performance boosts in games that support it over DirectX, but the boosts vary depending on your setup.
• TressFX - Makes hair looks more realistic. The effect is no longer exclusive to Radeon cards, but it will run better on those video cards compared to the competition.
• TrueAudio - A great alternative to 'surround sound' to theoretically give more precision and immersiveness to your environmental audio.
• Price-To-Performance - Absolutely blows away Nvidia in the price-to-performance department. You get way more bang for your buck, as always with AMD.
• Drivers - Reason I listed this as a pro: Radeon's drivers are getting way better, so ignore the people shouting that Radeon's drivers suck, because they're not as bad as they used to be. I see just as many people complain about Nvidia in the same department.
• AMD Gaming Evolved - AMD's counter to GeForce Experience and does what the competition does, but you can also get rewards for simply playing your games. The rewards you get varies on the points you have.
• Sapphire - Sapphire make some of the sexiest coolers and the quietest coolers for Radeon cards.

- Cons

• Many people complain of DoA (dead on arrival) and cards not functioning properly later down the road, more than the competition it would seem. This isn't 100% a fact, however. Take this with a grain of salt.
• AMD's highest end 290x does not beat a 780ti in most areas, but only loses by a bit.
• AMD absolutely sucks at marketing and naming conventions, and some decisions they make, make absolutely no sense. Could be said about both companies.

- Conclusion

Both vendors have excellent products. Like every single piece of tech on the market, it is all prone to DoA and malfunctions down the road. This is why you choose the appropriate aftermarket manufacturer, such as EVGA (GTX exclusive) or Sapphire (Radeon exclusive). Everyone on this forum can agree that both companies absolutely suck at marketing. Nvidia says their Titan cards are gaming cards, which isn't the whole story that they try to sell, AMD keeps rebranding things with only little improvements and so on. They both make stupid decisions but they do it for business reasons, even though they are still stupid. Did I mention they make stupid decisions?

tl;dr, pick your card and don't be a brand whore.

I think it's unfair to list PhysX and HairWorks as only used in select games, and not do the same with TressFX and TrueAudio.

In the interest of impartiality, could you update your copypasta to include that those Radeon technologies are also only in select games?

[Arty]

intel!

[WyvernAbstracts]

can someone make an amd vs nvidia post regarding specs and pin it, to many of these threads. 

[CreativeTHC]

Hello. I have a question regarding the rivalry between AMD and Nvidia. I just don't get why several people on forums clash out to each other about which one is better. I personally pick on how much FPS you can get on a certain card for a good price. I don't mean to start a war here on this forum but I'm just curious... Which is better: AMD or Nvidia?

Linus, pls stop doing all this troll accounts just to mock us.. 

[Guest Kloaked]

I think it's unfair to list PhysX and HairWorks as only used in select games, and not do the same with TressFX and TrueAudio.

In the interest of impartiality, could you update your copypasta to include that those Radeon technologies are also only in select games?

 

I'm aware of that, I just can't be arsed to edit it right now. Maybe this weekend when I'm finished with my homework I'm going to a complete update of it. There's other things that need to be added/updated as well.

[cesrai]

Linus, pls stop doing all this troll accounts just to mock us..

Pfft.. @LinusTech will never do it @Slick would kick his ass.

[MightyUnit]

Hello. I have a question regarding the rivalry between AMD and Nvidia. I just don't get why several people on forums clash out to each other about which one is better.

 

Because internet.

 

 

 

 

 I personally pick on how much FPS you can get on a certain card for a good price. I don't mean to start a war here on this forum but I'm just curious...

 

Let both sides have what they want... too bad there is not another one or two GPU makers. That would be better yet

 

 

 

 Which is better: AMD or Nvidia?

There is no answer to that. Choose what you like. That is what everyone does. Problem is people then feel like they must push on others what they choose for themselves. Why, insecurity?? immaturity? bored? I call that the internet.

[hooh888]

Please do not use the brand as a deciding factor for GPUs, let performance, temperatures, power draws, and the amount of cash you're willing to fork out be the deciding factors. Oh and the games you play too since some games are better optimized on Nvidia cards and some better on the AMD ones.

[The_Strict_Nein]

I'm aware of that, I just can't be arsed to edit it right now. Maybe this weekend when I'm finished with my homework I'm going to a complete update of it. There's other things that need to be added/updated as well.

Nvidia GTX

- Pros

 

• PhysX - Only in select games, but looks damn good.
• HairWorks - Again, only in select games that implement it, but looks damn good.
• TXAA - Another exclusive effect, but looks damn good in the games that support it and are actually optimized for it (Splinter Cell: Blacklist runs it like shit).
• MFAA - Exclusive effect, offers the same visual effect as MSAA with around 70% of the performance hit
• DSR - Dynamic Super Resolution ups the resolution your graphics card is rendering (i.e. 2560x1440p if you're running a 1080p monitor), down samples it to your monitors resolution, then sends it to the screen. The upshot is an improvement in visuals, similar to AA, in games where you have more than enough power to run at a higher resolution.
• VXGI - Part of the GameWorks suite, so only likely to be seen in limited games, provides much more realistic lighting without the performance hit of ray tracing
• GeForce Experience - Able to optimize visual settings for your games automatically based on your preferences and hardware. Also comes with GameStream and Shadowplay.
• GameStream - If you own an Nvidia Shield device, you can stream your games to said mobile device and play your games away from your PC and even on another network via internet.
• ShadowPlay - You can record your gameplay via hardware accelerated H.264 encoder which will already be compressed and not a gigantic file like what you would get with say, Fraps. While using ShadowPlay you can also stream to Twitch in a more efficient way.
• EVGA - Offers a very great warranty on all of their GTX products and will work with you to make you happy if you have an issue.
• Power Consumption - Testing has shown that a 4-way SLI system using GTX 980s and a Haswell-E CPU only draws around 600W from the wall with a Platinum power supply at gaming load. The GTX 750 Ti delivers close to 60 class performance with no extra power connector required.

- Cons

• Poor price-to-performance compared to Radeon.
• Nvidia sucks at marketing

AMD Radeon

- Pros

• Mantle - Only in select games, an alternate API to DirectX exclusive to Radeon at the moment. Gives performance boosts in games that support it over DirectX, but the boosts vary depending on your setup.
• TressFX - Only in select games, makes hair looks more realistic. The effect is no longer exclusive to Radeon cards, but it will run better on those video cards compared to the competition.
• TrueAudio - Only in select games, a great alternative to 'surround sound' to theoretically give more precision and immersiveness to your environmental audio.
• Price-To-Performance - Absolutely blows away Nvidia in the price-to-performance department. You get way more bang for your buck, as always with AMD.
• Drivers - Reason I listed this as a pro: Radeon's drivers are getting way better, so ignore the people shouting that Radeon's drivers suck, because they're not as bad as they used to be. I see just as many people complain about Nvidia in the same department.
• AMD Gaming Evolved - AMD's counter to GeForce Experience and does what the competition does, but you can also get rewards for simply playing your games. The rewards you get varies on the points you have.
• Sapphire - Sapphire make some of the sexiest coolers and the quietest coolers for Radeon cards.

- Cons

• Many people complain of DoA (dead on arrival) and cards not functioning properly later down the road, more than the competition it would seem. This isn't 100% a fact, however. Take this with a grain of salt.
• The Gaming Evolved gaming settings are crowd sourced, whereas Nvidia do extensive testing to find settings that are right for your computer. Also, Nvidia's optimization can be adjusted between performance and quality.
• AMD's highest end 290x does not beat a 780ti in most areas, but only loses by a bit.
• AMD absolutely sucks at marketing and naming conventions, and some decisions they make, make absolutely no sense. Could be said about both companies.

- Conclusion

Both vendors have excellent products. Like every single piece of tech on the market, it is all prone to DoA and malfunctions down the road. This is why you choose the appropriate aftermarket manufacturer, such as EVGA (GTX exclusive) or Sapphire (Radeon exclusive). Everyone on this forum can agree that both companies absolutely suck at marketing. Nvidia says their Titan cards are gaming cards, which isn't the whole story that they try to sell, AMD keeps rebranding things with only little improvements and so on. They both make stupid decisions but they do it for business reasons, even though they are still stupid. Did I mention they make stupid decisions?

tl;dr, pick your card and don't be a brand whore.

 

An updated copypasta for you, with the new Nvidia technologies included and the previously mentioned changes the TressFX and TrueAudio. I also added power consumption to Nvidia. I assume no new AMD technologies have surfaced, as I haven't heard of any. Also, seeing as you still list Radeon's drivers as a pro, I'm removing Geforce Experience's cons from Nvidia. They've had very few issues lately with all the updates, and new features have been added making it even better.

[SoggyPenguin1]

Umm... How do you delete this post? (Some members want me to.)

[grimmjow660]

I prefer Nvidia cards, always have.

Do research on different cards, and pick what you like.

[SoggyPenguin1]

Please do not use the brand as a deciding factor for GPUs, let performance, temperatures, power draws, and the amount of cash you're willing to fork out be the deciding factors. Oh and the games you play too since some games are better optimized on Nvidia cards and some better on the AMD ones.

I guess that solves it then. Thanks!