I Don't get it

[bobflanders86]

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/KM32zy

This is what I think would run games the best. I know it's overkill I want overkill. I want my computer to play games without struggle. I don't understand what graphics card can play what games, I don't know where the line is drawn on what's needed recommended and ridiculous. I want best performance in games possible. Help me to understand why this build is bad because I'm sure it is.

 

I'm starting to understand Thank You all who helped, this is what i'm considering now.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/qJ2FYJ

 

Conclusions for where the "line" is on fantasy and real world, so far.

CPU: Definitely a K something i5 good, i7 overkill

CPU Cooler: Noctua D14, Dark Pro3, and 212 Evo good, Custom water loop overkill

Memory: 8-16GB good, more than 16 zombie prevention

Storage: Price dependent. SSD's are good but pricey,  Mechs are cheaper bulk options.

Video Card: 970 good, 980 overkill, 2 980 needed for 4k

Case: Personal preference based on other factors

Power Supply: Quality is best

Optical Drive: Nearly obsolete

OS: Debatable wait for windows 9

Monitor: 1080 good for maxing out games, 1440 looks better, 4k expensive

[X1XNobleX1X]

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/KM32zy

This is what I think would run games the best. I know it's overkill I want overkill. I want my computer to play games without struggle. I don't understand what graphics card can play what games, I don't know where the line is drawn on what's needed recommended and ridiculous. I want best performance in games possible. Help me to understand why this build is bad because I'm sure it is.

Firstly: 5960x for gaming.

Secondly you don't need 64 GB of memory.

Thirdly, the Titan Z, two 780s are faster than a Titan and is much cheaper.

Fourthly: only one SSD? No HDD? That's a really bad idea.

Oh, and if you're spending that much, why the hell are you going to be buying a Hyper 212 evo? At least get a H100i.

[AlwaysFSX]

Do I have to sugar coat it or can I be blunt?

[Bogica]

Quite an overkill. You could get a Z97 board and CPU and have the same performance in gaming.

64GB of RAM is like double tapping a dead guy without a head... Seriously, even 32GB is overkill for gaming, unless you use it for something else (video rendering, CAD, etc.).

Scratch that Titan Z, because a single 980 will kill it and for that amount of money you can SLI 980s and have 2000$ left.

[SeanAngelo]

for just gaming, lemme highlight the "bads"

 

the processor.

the amount of ram.

the graphics card.

the storage.

 

first off, unless you're going for a super editing/rendering rig then i understand. but for gaming, this build is WAAAAAAAAY overkill.

 

what i'd change is:

 

i5 processor

z97 board

gtx 980

1TB HDD, 250GB SSD

8GB/16GB RAM

 

boom. done.

[bobflanders86]

Firstly: 5960x for gaming.

Secondly you don't need 64 GB of memory.

Lastly, the Titan Z, two 780s are faster than a Titan and is much cheaper.

Oh, and if you're spending that much, why the hell are you going to be buying a Hyper 212 evo? At least get a H100i.

I don't want to do sli I want 1 good graphics card. Are i5's that much better for gaming then i7's is it like wanting an 18 wheeler to tow a sail boat. Sure it can tow it but so could a little pickup truck. I don't understand what I need to get for a gaming rig. Where is the line for Good, Best, Too much.

[bobflanders86]

Do I have to sugar coat it or can I be blunt?

Be blunt but explain in great detail.

[ICantThinkOfAnyGoodName]

The processor, amount of RAM and the SSD is massive overkill for gaming. Also, never buy a titan GPU for gaming. You can get a lot more performance than that for a lot less money with SLI gtx 980s.

[X1XNobleX1X]

I don't want to do sli I want 1 good graphics card. Are i5's that much better for gaming then i7's is it like wanting an 18 wheeler to tow a sail boat. Sure it can tow it but so could a little pickup truck. I don't understand what I need to get for a gaming rig. Where is the line for Good, Best, Too much.

I really disagree with you getting a Titan Z, it's just stupid, but it's your money.

Don't go for X99 for gaming, go 1150 and get a 4790k and a nice z97 motherboard.

Get 8-16GB of memory not 64.

Get a 3TB HDD to store games.

There you go, you have saved $1000-2000 on components with the same exact performance.

[bobflanders86]

I really disagree with you getting a Titan Z, it's just stupid, but it's your money.

Don't go for X99 for gaming, go 1150 and get a 4790k and a nice z97 motherboard.

Get 8-16GB of memory not 64.

Get a 3TB HDD to store games.

I don't understand why

[AlwaysFSX]

Be blunt but explain in great detail.

The build is fucking ridiculous and a waste of money. You don't need any of that for gaming and it was one of the worst choices I've ever seen.

 

CPU: You will never use 16 threads in this day and age for gaming. Ever. When that time comes around that CPU will be so outdated it won't be funny.

 

Cooler: You chose a highly expensive build and a cooler that can't cool the CPU. Even if it's highly recommended, it doesn't work on an 8 core monster.

 

Motherboard: X99 is not for gaming. It never will be. That's a workstation board meant for workstation needs. Not gaming.

 

RAM: You will never use 64 gigs of RAM in gaming. You want a top of the line gaming system? You only need 16 and that if you multitask. Gaming doesn't use over 8 GB.

 

Storage: You chose a single drive that's waaaaaaaaaaay too expensive for your needs. It's pointless.

 

Graphics card: The Titan Z is an over priced piece of junk. You can get better performance for a third of the price with other solutions.

 

I ca build a better performing computer for about $2-3k.

[SeanBond]

Get 2 980's instead and save 2 grand and have a faster computer, drop the ram down to 16gb, drop the cpu down to a 5820k 6 core, because that might be the only cpu power you need for the next 8 years with dx12 coming. Get a Evga supernova g2 750W psu because it's almost half as much all the power you will need and the quality stomps on everything else right now. And I am to lazy to do that in pc part picker but it would be a faster better system and almost half as much

[Notree]

http://www.anandtech.com/show/8426/the-intel-haswell-e-cpu-review-core-i7-5960x-i7-5930k-i7-5820k-tested/6 The cpu is overkill if your just gaming. And I also agree with the other that the titan z isnt the best option either. If your gonna spend that much atleast get a custom loop.  :lol:

[X1XNobleX1X]

The build is fucking ridiculous and a waste of money. You don't need any of that for gaming and it was one of the worst choices I've ever seen.

 

This sentence sums it all up, couldn't of said it better myself. 

[bobflanders86]

I want an ssd really bad to see the load times in games decrease. I could get an H100i if it's that important. It seems like the best should work the best for the longest. My current computer can barely play Terraria I had to buy more ram to make it work from 256mb to 1g. I don't want problems like that for a while.

[SeanBond]

The build is fucking ridiculous and a waste of money. You don't need any of that for gaming and it was one of the worst choices I've ever seen.

 

CPU: You will never use 16 threads in this day and age for gaming. Ever. When that time comes around that CPU will be so outdated it won't be funny.

 

Cooler: You chose a highly expensive build and a cooler that can't cool the CPU. Even if it's highly recommended, it doesn't work on an 8 core monster.

 

Motherboard: X99 is not for gaming. It never will be. That's a workstation board meant for workstation needs. Not gaming.

 

RAM: You will never use 64 gigs of RAM in gaming. You want a top of the line gaming system? You only need 16 and that if you multitask. Gaming doesn't use over 8 GB.

 

Storage: You chose a single drive that's waaaaaaaaaaay too expensive for your needs. It's pointless.

 

Graphics card: The Titan Z is an over priced piece of junk. You can get better performance for a third of the price with other solutions.

 

I ca build a better performing computer for about $2-3k.

Pretty much all this. He is right. I have 8 gigs of ram and I don't even max it out with page filing disabled . The titzan Z is made for workstation computers who only have enough space for one gpu but still need all the power they can get. 2 980's will be much much faster and much much cheaper.  Games usually don't even use more than 2 cores with games right now so having an 8 core is pointless for gaming. And as far as the ssd goes, I would drop it down to a 500gb personally and back it with a 2tb WD Blue or black drive. That should be all the storage you will ever need. 

[ICantThinkOfAnyGoodName]

I don't want to do sli I want 1 good graphics card. Are i5's that much better for gaming then i7's is it like wanting an 18 wheeler to tow a sail boat. Sure it can tow it but so could a little pickup truck. I don't understand what I need to get for a gaming rig. Where is the line for Good, Best, Too much.

Currently, the best CPU that you should buy for a pure gaming machine is the i7-4790k. Anything above that won't get you any more performance improvements. The Titan Z has a terrible prize/performance ratio and if you really only want a single GPU, get a radeon R9 295x2, which delivers about the same performance for less money. However both the titan Z and the 295x2 are already multiple GPUs in one card, so I don't really see a point in only using one of them. Pretty much no current game uses more than 8 gb of RAM, if you want to be future-proof, take 16. About also won't get any performance improvements from high-frequency RAM, I would use DDR3-1600 instead of 2666. And that SSD is also way overkill as you will get close to the performance for less money and storage speed only affects startup speed, not ingame performance.

[AlwaysFSX]

I want an ssd really bad to see the load times in games decrease. I could get an H100i if it's that important. It seems like the best should work the best for the longest. My current computer can barely play Terraria I had to buy more ram to make it work from 256mb to 1g. I don't want problems like that for a while.

You don't need an ssd for lightning fast load times. You'd be throwing hundreds of dollars in to something that gives you a few seconds faster of loading time? It's pointless. This build will outperform what you posted, and doesn't cost an arm and a leg. It is extremely powerful too. You don't need the highest end stuff to have an enjoyable time, you're just setting yourself up to think you enjoy a bunch of overpriced crap.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($336.74 @ SuperBiiz)

CPU Cooler: be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 3 93.3 CFM Fluid Dynamic Bearing CPU Cooler  ($89.99 @ NCIX US)

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z97X-Gaming GT ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($223.99 @ Newegg)

Memory: Kingston Fury Black Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory  ($144.49 @ Amazon)

Storage: Crucial M500 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($68.99 @ NCIX US)

Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($82.99 @ NCIX US)

Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB Video Card (2-Way SLI)  ($329.98 @ NCIX US)

Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB Video Card (2-Way SLI)  ($329.98 @ NCIX US)

Case: Fractal Design Arc Midi R2 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($79.99 @ NCIX US)

Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($133.99 @ NCIX US)

Optical Drive: LG GH24NSB0 DVD/CD Writer  ($13.50 @ Newegg)

Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit)  ($102.98 @ Newegg)

Monitor: Asus PB278Q 27.0" Monitor  ($459.99 @ Amazon)

Keyboard: Corsair Vengeance K70 Wired Gaming Keyboard  ($111.99 @ Amazon)

Mouse: Logitech G500 Wired Laser Mouse  ($72.78 @ SuperBiiz)

Total: $2542.37

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-10-04 08:23 EDT-0400

[Nyxathid]

Because you can get good performance on a 1440p screen for $5000 less.

It's like shooting a dead guy.. overkill.

You can never be too careful nowadays  

[Nyxathid]

You don't need an ssd for lightning fast load times. You'd be throwing hundreds of dollars in to something that gives you a few seconds faster of loading time? It's pointless. This build will outperform what you posted, and doesn't cost an arm and a leg. It is extremely powerful too. You don't need the highest end stuff to have an enjoyable time, you're just setting yourself up to think you enjoy a bunch of overpriced crap.

 

 

Why not a 4k monitor and gtx 980's?

[VortexS]

You don't need an ssd for lightning fast load times. You'd be throwing hundreds of dollars in to something that gives you a few seconds faster of loading time? It's pointless. This build will outperform what you posted, and doesn't cost an arm and a leg. It is extremely powerful too. You don't need the highest end stuff to have an enjoyable time, you're just setting yourself up to think you enjoy a bunch of overpriced crap.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($336.74 @ SuperBiiz)

CPU Cooler: be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 3 93.3 CFM Fluid Dynamic Bearing CPU Cooler  ($89.99 @ NCIX US)

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z97X-Gaming GT ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($223.99 @ Newegg)

Memory: Kingston Fury Black Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory  ($144.49 @ Amazon)

Storage: Crucial M500 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($68.99 @ NCIX US)

Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($82.99 @ NCIX US)

Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB Video Card (2-Way SLI)  ($329.98 @ NCIX US)

Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB Video Card (2-Way SLI)  ($329.98 @ NCIX US)

Case: Fractal Design Arc Midi R2 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($79.99 @ NCIX US)

Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($133.99 @ NCIX US)

Optical Drive: LG GH24NSB0 DVD/CD Writer  ($13.50 @ Newegg)

Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit)  ($102.98 @ Newegg)

Monitor: Asus PB278Q 27.0" Monitor  ($459.99 @ Amazon)

Keyboard: Corsair Vengeance K70 Wired Gaming Keyboard  ($111.99 @ Amazon)

Mouse: Logitech G500 Wired Laser Mouse  ($72.78 @ SuperBiiz)

Total: $2542.37

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-10-04 08:23 EDT-0400

Exactly this, but if you don't want SLI just go for the 980. This build will work perfectly fine with every upcoming game for a LOOOONG time.

[bobflanders86]

the reason behind the 64gb of ram was to fill all the slots in the mobo. I think that filling all the slots increases performance is that wrong?

[Noctus]

the reason behind the 64gb of ram was to fill all the slots in the mobo. I think that filling all the slots increases performance is that wrong?

You are seriously coming off as a troll

[ICantThinkOfAnyGoodName]

the reason behind the 64gb of ram was to fill all the slots in the mobo. I think that filling all the slots increases performance is that wrong?

Filling all RAM slots does indeed increase the total RAM speed, but a higher RAM speed usually doesn't have any effect on performance in games.

[bobflanders86]

i see