I think Nvidia has killed their own GTX980 with their GTX 970

[mvitkun]

980 is only going to last 2 months at that price anyway, will drop when the inevitable 980 Ti comes along to trollface the schmucks who bought the 980.

The GTX 980 is a full GM 204 supposedly, so if they release another higher end card it won't be GM204 and so it won't be called the GTX 980 ti.

It would be given a name that shows it isn't part of the current series, like the GTX Titan.

 

And if they do release a GTX 980 Ti then it'll just be a higher clocked GTX 980, like the HD 7970 Ghz vs the HD 7970 regular, in which case nobody would care about such an insignificant troll.

 

@aduman me neither.

[CatCloud]

970 is unlikely to drop because of a 980 Ti launch, the gap in price is already too large between the 970 and 980.

Or maybe Nvidia's tactic THIS TIME is to make a 970 Ti, so they can harvest even more tears.

All this aside, what I'm really hoping for is an ASUS GTX 970 MARS. Just the thought gives me spinal frequency modulation.

a worthy replacement for the 690, still I'd like a 990.

@mvitkun what? That was a poor example, considering there is the 780ti and people are all over them so why would they not get a 980ti?

[Noctus]

a worthy replacement for the 690, still I'd like a 990.

@mvitkun what? That was a poor example, considering there is the 780ti and people are all over them so why would they not get a 980ti?

It makes sense because the 980, in his context, is the end game (fully unlocked, nothing past this point, completed) GM204. Anything further will have to be a newer, better GM with a different name from 9xx series.

[CatCloud]

It makes sense because the 980, in his context, is the end game (fully unlocked, nothing past this point, completed) GM204. Anything further will have to be a newer, better GM with a different name from 9xx series.

oh really? And the 780 was not the high end card last time? Yet they made the 780ti? And doing it again would not make sense? Am I missing something???

[Optimus Prime]

980 is better than 970 purely because of the 980's IO. Dp ftw

[swifty7]

I wonder what AMD is up to.

[mvitkun]

what? That was a poor example, considering there is the 780ti and people are all over them so why would they not get a 980ti?

 

oh really? And the 780 was not the high end card last time? Yet they made the 780ti? And doing it again would not make sense? Am I missing something???

What does that have to do with anything? I'm not talking about the ability to sell the GTX 780ti.

The GTX 780 was not a full GK110, we knew that since the release order went like this.

GTX Titan during the GTX 600 series. [2688/2880 Cuda Cores]

GTX 780 with the GTX 700 series [2304/2880 Cuda Cores]

GTX 780 Ti with the GTX 700 series, [2880/2880 Cuda Cores]

GTX Titan Black during the GTX 700 series. [2880/2880 Cuda Cores]

The GTX 980 is a full die,[2048/2048 Cuda Cores], there is no logical reason for them to magically find cores where there aren't any.

And there's no logical reason for them to call something that is a completely different architecture the GTX 980 Ti.

 

So if they release a better card it'll be based not on GM204 but on GK210, and it won't be a GTX 980 Ti but something like GTX (Behemoth/Titan II) for $1000, and then maybe we'll see a GTX 1080 and GTX 1080Ti based on GK210 on Maxwell refresh next year for a more attainable price.

[Sakkura]

But As I recall, after like 3 moths of the card is in the market, the driver updates improve a lot of performance.(we had the same problem but after 3-4 months we could see the real performance).

 

Well, Maxwell GPUs have been around for a while, so I think a lot of the driver optimization work is already done.

[i_build_nanosuits]

the GTX 970 is a bang for the buck card. and it can match both the R9 290/R9 290X in price if you OC the card.

 

in singapore the GTX 780 goes for SGD$899.00  and the GTX 970 is SGD$506.00

 

the GTX980 is like SGD$888.00and a GTX970 sells for SGD$506.00

 

The GTX980 does at most 10 -12% better then the 970 but it's like $300.00 more ...

this is always the case...you pay a premium for premium parts that only do marginaly better...it's always been the case and it will always be...welcome to the world kid

...and the last gen cards (700 series) are now worth more because guys like me will buy them for SLI before they run out of stock because two GTX 780 will totaly and utterly destroy a GTX 980 at everything (including noise, heat hahaha LOL )

[Sakkura]

oh really? And the 780 was not the high end card last time? Yet they made the 780ti? And doing it again would not make sense? Am I missing something???

 

An upcoming GTX 980 Ti would be more like a GTX 680 Ti than the GTX 780 Ti. The 980 is the 680 of 2014. Nvidia could do a repeat of the 700 series, so we could end up with a bigger GM210 powering a hypothetical "GTX 1080 Ti" (but I think they would change their naming scheme).

[Noctus]

What does that have to do with anything? I'm not talking about the ability to sell the GTX 780ti.

The GTX 780 was not a full GK110, we knew that since the release order went like this.

GTX Titan during the GTX 600 series. [2688/2880 Cuda Cores]

GTX 780 with the GTX 700 series [2304/2880 Cuda Cores]

GTX 780 Ti with the GTX 700 series, [2880/2880 Cuda Cores]

GTX Titan Black during the GTX 700 series. [2880/2880 Cuda Cores]

The GTX 980 is a full die,[2048/2048 Cuda Cores], there is no logical reason for them to magically find cores where there aren't any.

And there's no logical reason for them to call something that is a completely different architecture the GTX 980 Ti.

 

So if they release a better card it'll be based not on GM204 but on GK210, and it won't be a GTX 980 Ti but something like GTX (Behemoth/Titan II) for $1000, and then maybe we'll see a GTX 1080 and GTX 1080Ti based on GK210 on Maxwell refresh next year for a more attainable price.

Thanks for fully explaining it. There was NO WAY I was typing that out on mobile haha

[Samfisher]

the GTX 970 is a bang for the buck card. and it can match both the R9 290/R9 290X in price if you OC the card.

 

in singapore the GTX 780 goes for SGD$899.00  and the GTX 970 is SGD$506.00

 

the GTX980 is like SGD$888.00and a GTX970 sells for SGD$506.00

 

The GTX980 does at most 10 -12% better then the 970 but it's like $300.00 more ...

 

That has nothing to do with Nvidia... Besides, the Zotac reference can be had for SGD$799.  Asus and Gigabyte charge SGD$888-989 for theirs, they can charge what they want.  Don't like it?  Don't buy that brand then...since it's a reference card anyway, every brand will be the same.

[Samfisher]

oh really? And the 780 was not the high end card last time? Yet they made the 780ti? And doing it again would not make sense? Am I missing something???

 

The 780 has 2304 cores while the 780Ti had 2880 cores.  Both were GK110 chips.  They didn't go up or down a chip series with the 780's.  The 780 was just a cut down 780Ti.  The 980 on the other hand is as many cores as GM204 will ever get.

[swifty7]

I wonder why less cuda cores for the 900 series.  Shouldn't be more? Unless the cuda cores are more powerful.

[Samfisher]

I wonder why less cuda cores for the 900 series.  Shouldn't be more? Unless the cuda cores are more powerful.

 

It is, since it's a new architecture. 2048 cores on 980 outperform 2840 cores on 780 Ti.

[i_build_nanosuits]

It is, since it's a new architecture. 2048 cores on 980 outperform 2840 cores on 780 Ti.

15x192=2880 cuda cores.

[GuideMe002]

as Linus said always get the second strongest card