Possible upgrade(s)... thoughts?

[Advent]

So I've been thinking about upgrading a few components, here is what I came up with:
[PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-4930K 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor  ($579.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($0.00)
Motherboard: Asus Rampage IV Gene Micro ATX LGA2011 Motherboard  ($0.00)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Tactical Tracer 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory  ($0.00)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Tactical Tracer 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory  ($0.00)
Storage: Samsung 850 Pro Series 1TB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($700.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital WD Black 4TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 Ti 3GB K|ngp|n Video Card (2-Way SLI)  ($736.42 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 Ti 3GB K|ngp|n Video Card (2-Way SLI)  ($736.42 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT H440 (Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair 1000W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($236.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $3110.78
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-09-18 15:32 EDT-0400

Here is my original setup which I would then sell off to help pay for the cost of these parts. (Everything but the RAM, Motherboard, Monitors, Fans would be sold off). I figure I could get $1K (maybe a bit more) from the old parts to put towards the new build.

Used Part Buyer Savings Breakdown (UPBSB) (NOTE: I am not trying to sell ANYTHING in this topic, just listing rational and price breakdowns).

Used i7 3930k (new $600), ($400 used)
Used 780 Ti SuperClocked w/ ACX cooler (new $700),  (used $500+/=)
Used EVGA 650W fully modular PSU (new $85), (used $50)
used Corsair 350D case (new $100),  (used $60)
used Samsung EVo 250 GB SSD (new $150), (used $100)

Total New (w/o shipping and tax) =$1,635. CA Tax ~10% so + $163 tax = $1798.

I'm asking around ~$1,000 USD or more. That saves the buyer ~$798 (or a bit less) + what it cost me to have the parts shipped to me (probably an additional $35.00). That's almost 1/2 the purchase price for items that have only been used since Feb of 2014. (~7 months). All the products still have a warranty on them (1 year or better, some have 3 year warranty).

http://pcpartpicker.com/user/Advent/saved/rbQPxr

 

Thoughts?
 

[Guest Kloaked]

Do you do video editing or any type of rendering?

[Enderman]

I wouldn't call this a "new" build if half the parts are last-gen stuff...

[Archangel1994]

Why get an ATX case and an mATX motherboard? Get the Hero or ranger if you want ROG.

[Sauron]

Why not go x99 and 5820k? It would be cheaper on the cpu side, offer new technologies and the saved money would pay for the ddr4.

Also, I disagree with sli 780tis: they are way overpriced. Personally I'd go for crossfire r9 290s, even 3 if you must have more performance, it would still be significantly cheaper than 2 780tis. 4tb hdds failure rates are through the roof, get 2 2tb drives instead, it's better.

 

Also, what's wrong with your build? It's still great. Why don't you keep that?

[Advent]

Do you do video editing or any type of rendering?

I do. I stream on Twitch and I generally play all games @ 1080P or higher while streaming (stream footage is 1080p) I save to external storage and push to Twitch at the same time. I also upload to Youtube but haven't done that in a bit, but I do video edit.

 

 

I wouldn't call this a "new" build if half the parts are last-gen stuff...

Who used the words "new"? When did I say that? Also anyone who goes X99 for gaming is stupid.

 

Why get an ATX case and an mATX motherboard? Get the Hero or ranger if you want ROG.

I already have the motherboard. I like the NZXT case.

 

Why not go x99 and 5820k? It would be cheaper on the cpu side, offer new technologies and the saved money would pay for the ddr4.

Also, I disagree with sli 780tis: they are way overpriced. Personally I'd go for crossfire r9 290s, even 3 if you must have more performance, it would still be significantly cheaper than 2 780tis. 4tb hdds failure rates are through the roof, get 2 2tb drives instead, it's better.

 

Also, what's wrong with your build? It's still great. Why don't you keep that?

Why go X99 when it offers little to no tangible benefit for gaming? The only large benefit I might see is DDR4 RAM and even then on benchmarks it doesn't pull that far away from DDR3, especially since I already have the DDR3 RAM and DDR4 RAM is through the roof price wise.

As far as the GPU's, I don't run AMD GPU's, I don't like the heat output of the new AMD GPU's, nor the noise level. I've been using NVIDIA for a long long time, I like them, I like their software, I like shadowplay and I prefer their performance for what I use them for.

I have 12.5 TB of external storage, + an additional 8 TB in RAID 0 (2 x 4 TB Red), I've had no failures yet.

As to why upgrade? Well I want a bit more power, power I can't get out of my 3930k or the single 780 Ti.

[Sauron]

Why go X99 when it offers little to no tangible benefit for gaming?

 

For gaming x79 is way overkill already. If gaming is all you will do, only the second card will make a difference, the cpu is already snake oil.

[Archangel1994]

Why go X99 when it offers little to no tangible benefit for gaming? The only large benefit I might see is DDR4 RAM and even then on benchmarks it doesn't pull that far away from DDR3, especially since I already have the DDR3 RAM and DDR4 RAM is through the roof price wise.

Enthusiast chipsets (including X79) offer no tangible benefit for gaming in general unless you want to run 4 cards. 

 

 Well I want a bit more power, power I can't get out of my 3930k or the single 780 Ti.

Want or need? The 4930k is a minimal improvement over the 3930k so that's just wasted money. The single 780 Ti not giving enough is only really true when you want to push 144 fps on ultra on 1440p or 5760x1080p or something.

 

 

Who used the words "new"? When did I say that? Also anyone who goes X99 for gaming is stupid.

So someone who wants to run 4 cards in SLI should go Z97? Oh wait, YOU CANT! Don't insult people when different contexts matter. Someone who wants 4x 780 Ti in SLI or 4x Titan Blacks to run 4k on stupidly high framerates cannot get away with Z97. He needs X79 or X99.

[Advent]

For gaming x79 is way overkill already. If gaming is all you will do, only the second card will make a difference, the cpu is already snake oil.

Going from a 3930K to a 4930K should net me in the range of 10%+ increase, even more with SLI over my current setup. That is worth the money for me. Also what do you mean by the CPU is "snake oil"?

[Guest Kloaked]

@Advent - Can you list all of your uses and programs you'll be using? IE: gaming, overclocking, water cooling, Adobe After Effects, etc etc.

 

The build looks okay, but you're looking into buying two of the Kingping 780ti's which are really made for overclocking (they're better for custom loops but they still overclock well on air) when you already have a 780ti from Asus. I'm guessing you have all of that worked out of what you're gonna do with that configuration, but I was just wondering if you know what you're paying for since the Kingpin editions cost more than the Classy's and Superclocked editions.

[Advent]

Enthusiast chipsets (including X79) offer no tangible benefit for gaming in general unless you want to run 4 cards. 

 

Want or need? The 4930k is a minimal improvement over the 3930k so that's just wasted money. The single 780 Ti not giving enough is only really true when you want to push 144 fps on ultra on 1440p or 5760x1080p or something.

 

 

So someone who wants to run 4 cards in SLI should go Z97? Oh wait, YOU CANT! Don't insult people when different contexts matter. Someone who wants 4x 780 Ti in SLI or 4x Titan Blacks to run 4k on stupidly high framerates cannot get away with Z97. He needs X79 or X99.

As to the X79 Chipset (I already own the motherboard, it is coming out of my old build). In regards to the performance increase over the 3930k, I know it is about 10%, that is fine. Also the single 780 Ti doesn't give me enough performance as is giving my usage. I stream on Twitch @ 1080P using OBS, this drops my frame rate below 60 sometimes. I then push recorded footage at the same time to external storage which further degrades FPS performance. Having a 2nd 780 Ti should help this.

As to 4 x SLI, I know you have to go X79, I have an X79 board already. What I am saying is that X99 doesn't offer much improvement over X79 in terms of gaming. It gives you DDR4 and more lanes, that's about it. The price/performance ratio does not give enough benefit to justify the cost. X99 is more geared to workstation tasks as far as I am concerned and so are many of the reviews I've seen.

[Advent]

@Advent - Can you list all of your uses and programs you'll be using? IE: gaming, overclocking, water cooling, Adobe After Effects, etc etc.

 

The build looks okay, but you're looking into buying two of the Kingping 780ti's which are really made for overclocking (they're better for custom loops but they still overclock well on air) when you already have a 780ti from Asus. I'm guessing you have all of that worked out of what you're gonna do with that configuration, but I was just wondering if you know what you're paying for since the Kingpin editions cost more than the Classy's and Superclocked editions.

I overclock everything as it is. I run the CPU using an AIO (may branch out to custom for both GPU(s) CPU when i get a bit more $$$. I run Sony Vegas, OBS, Shadowplay, VM applications, Emulation, and I benchmark a lot. The GPU I have isn't an ASUS (yes I know outdated price list) I run an EVGA 780 Ti SC w/ ACX cooler.

As far as the Kingpin cards, I know they are geared towards OCing, that's the plan. I could settle for another 780 Ti SC from EVGA though.

[Guest Kloaked]

I overclock everything as it is. I run the CPU using an AIO (may branch out to custom for both GPU(s) CPU when i get a bit more $$$. I run Sony Vegas, OBS, Shadowplay, VM applications, Emulation, and I benchmark a lot. The GPU I have isn't an ASUS (yes I know outdated price list) I run an EVGA 780 Ti SC w/ ACX cooler.

As far as the Kingpin cards, I know they are geared towards OCing, that's the plan. I could settle for another 780 Ti SC from EVGA though.

 

Ah okay, makes more sense now.

 

Everything looks fine to me, then. I don't see what the fuss is about in the above replies.

 

I would though, however get an ATX board if you can. It'll give the primary card more breathing room. If not then I don't think it'll be a huge deal. I just know with my setup when I had a M-ATX board, my primary card would get significantly hotter since there wasn't enough fresh air getting pushed between the cards, if any.

[Sauron]

what do you mean by the CPU is "snake oil"?

 

I mean it's already way overkill, if gaming is your objective. If they run at the same frequency, the 3930k and 4930k perform almost exactly the same in games (the difference is within the margin of error). So if you want a little more performance, overclock your current cpu. As a matter of fact, you could have achieved the same performance with an overclocked 2600k. You'd basically be spending 570$ on a cpu for a 7%ish performance increase, less at high resolutions (which I assume is where any sli setup is aimed at). It's your money, but don't expect any major performance difference, in fact you'd need a benchmark to tell the difference.

[Advent]

I mean it's already way overkill, if gaming is your objective. If they run at the same frequency, the 3930k and 4930k perform almost exactly the same in games (the difference is within the margin of error). So if you want a little more performance, overclock your current cpu. As a matter of fact, you could have achieved the same performance with an overclocked 2600k. You'd basically be spending 570$ on a cpu for a 7%ish performance increase, less at high resolutions (which I assume is where any sli setup is aimed at). It's your money, but don't expect any major performance difference, in fact you'd need a benchmark to tell the difference.

I do a lot more than game. I run Sony Vegas, OBS, Shadowplay, VM applications, Emulation, and I benchmark a lot, to repeat my previous statement(s).

[Sauron]

I do a lot more than game. I run Sony Vegas, OBS, Shadowplay, VM applications, Emulation, and I benchmark a lot, to repeat my previous statement(s).

 

Then why did you dismiss x99 earlier? You said it offers no tangible benefit for gaming, but it does in those other applications. From that reply I just assumed all you needed was gaming. Then again, you should probably go x99, that way it would be a "proper" upgrade and not just an iterative one.

[Advent]

Then why did you dismiss x99 earlier? You said it offers no tangible benefit for gaming, but it does in those other applications. From that reply I just assumed all you needed was gaming. Then again, you should probably go x99, that way it would be a "proper" upgrade and not just an iterative one.

Even for what I do the X99 platform offers very little tangible benefit given the cost of the RAM. I'm not after bleeding edge, besides, I have a bunch of people in industry that just picked up the X99 boards and have had them fail one after another. I think I'll hold off on X99 until the bugs have been worked out.