LGA 2011 Xeon

[AMD Lover]

I >>REALLY<< don't want to have to go too DDR4, considering its really damn expensive and will have a few quirks to start off with sooo. I was thinking LGA 2011. (Instead of Haswell-E) So I was going to get a Ivy Bridge Xeon and that would be my upgrade. I'm looking for lots a cores and you can get 8 Core Xeons for like $800

 

 

 

Do you think its worth it, I think it would be able to last quite a while, especially if I raised the base clock.

 

 

 

Opinions? 

[Sauron]

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Why do you need it?

 

(bte remember to follow your posts )

[Enderman]

I don't think you need 16 threads...

[Guest]

I guess you mean the E5-2640 v2? That's an 8 core Xeon for 800 bucks, but it will really suffer in everything that's not heavily multithreaded because of the 2GHz base clock. Overclocking is not guaranteed, not at all. So you might be stuck with an absolute maximum of 2.5GHz boost clock. Just keep that in mind.

[Cokeman]

Are you using it for gaming?

[AMD Lover]

Why do you need it?

 

(bte remember to follow your posts )

lol, why did I miss a post, a generally check them until they go pretty much dead. I edit photos and videos on a pretty regular basis. I multitask a lot. Plex, Spotify, iTunes, 30+ Chrome tabs, 4-5 Metro apps open, Multiple monitors so I usually have a movie or video going on one and like I said Plex is streaming. I'm stating to code, do 3D work in Blender and such

[AMD Lover]

Are you using it for gaming?

Yes, 3-4 a month (Game start ups) Generally play for 2-5 hours at a time

[AMD Lover]

I guess you mean the E5-2640 v2? That's an 8 core Xeon for 800 bucks, but it will really suffer in everything that's not heavily multithreaded because of the 2GHz base clock. Overclocking is not guaranteed, not at all. So you might be stuck with an absolute maximum of 2.5GHz boost clock. Just keep that in mind.

Ah, I actually skimmed over that. Going all the way back to Sandy Bridge would you start to run into performance problems and I could just go 6 core i7 (Ivy)

[Cokeman]

Yes, 3-4 a month (Game start ups) Generally play for 2-5 hours at a time

Xenons are not good for gaming. Watch Linus's video from today.

[AMD Lover]

Xenons are not good for gaming. Watch Linus's video from today.

Doing other work way more than I game

[Sauron]

lol, why did I miss a post, a generally check them until they go pretty much dead. I edit photos and videos on a pretty regular basis. I multitask a lot. Plex, Spotify, iTunes, 30+ Chrome tabs, 4-5 Metro apps open, Multiple monitors so I usually have a movie or video going on one and like I said Plex is streaming. I'm stating to code, do 3D work in Blender and such

 

An i7 is powerful enough for most of these and blender can make use of cuda on your gpu to render faster. Are you noticing any slowdowns? Because if you aren't a xeon is a bit of a waste of money.

 

That said, if you really can make use of all that power, why not? It's just that you could have thought about this before buying an i7 don't raise the base clock, @LinusTech does it only because he knows that if he destroys his 2400$ xeon the sponsors will fetch him a new one ^^ and it will last you potentially forever, it all depends on what your needs are and if you do this as a job or just as a hobby.

[Cokeman]

Doing other work way more than I game

Not good for rendering either.

[Guest]

Not good for rendering either.

 

I think you need to rewatch that video. Xeons perform the same as consumer grade CPUs if they are the same architecture with the same core/thread count on the same clock speeds. They are not "bad" for gaming or for rendering.

[Cokeman]

I think you need to rewatch that video. Xeons perform the same as consumer grade CPUs if they are the same architecture with the same core/thread count on the same clock speeds. They are not "bad" for gaming or for rendering.

But they cost so much more

[Guest]

But they cost so much more

 

An 8 core "consumer" CPU will cost him 1000 bucks, this Xeon costs 800. He also doesn't have to upgrade to expensive DDR4 ram and he can re-use his current DDR3 ram. If he can live with the low clock speeds for the applications he uses it's not a bad choice.

[AMD Lover]

An 8 core "consumer" CPU will cost him 1000 bucks, this Xeon costs 800. He also doesn't have to upgrade to expensive DDR4 ram and he can re-use his current DDR3 ram. If he can live with the low clock speeds for the applications he uses it's not a bad choice.

 

An i7 is powerful enough for most of these and blender can make use of cuda on your gpu to render faster. Are you noticing any slowdowns? Because if you aren't a xeon is a bit of a waste of money.

 

That said, if you really can make use of all that power, why not? It's just that you could have thought about this before buying an i7 don't raise the base clock, @LinusTech does it only because he knows that if he destroys his 2400$ xeon the sponsors will fetch him a new one ^^ and it will last you potentially forever, it all depends on what your needs are and if you do this as a job or just as a hobby.

 

Yep, revised my decision. It would be pretty expensive to switch at this point and I already have an i7 so im just going to buy 32GB of 1866 or 2100Mhz Dominator Platinum's or maybe some G.Skill

[Sauron]

im just going to buy 32GB of 1866 or 2100Mhz Dominator Platinum's or maybe some G.Skill

 

Why don't you just add another 2x8gb kit? ram size is more important than ram speed in video editing and 16gb of ram can be expensive, you're better off adding on to what you already have.

[Guest]

Yep, revised my decision. It would be pretty expensive to switch at this point and I already have an i7 so im just going to buy 32GB of 1866 or 2100Mhz Dominator Platinum's or maybe some G.Skill

 

Seems like the more reasonable decision.

 

Why don't you just add another 2x8gb kit? ram size is more important than ram speed in video editing and 16gb of ram can be expensive, you're better off adding on to what you already have.

 

Also, this ^

[AMD Lover]

Why don't you just add another 2x8gb kit? ram size is more important than ram speed in video editing and 16gb of ram can be expensive, you're better off adding on to what you already have.

The memory I have now has problems with my motherboard or its starting to go bad. I get a lot of memory errors

[Sauron]

The memory I have now has problems with my motherboard or its starting to go bad. I get a lot of memory errors

 

Weird, have you tried resetting memory settings in the bios?

[AMD Lover]

Why don't you just add another 2x8gb kit? ram size is more important than ram speed in video editing and 16gb of ram can be expensive, you're better off adding on to what you already have.

 

 

An 8 core "consumer" CPU will cost him 1000 bucks, this Xeon costs 800. He also doesn't have to upgrade to expensive DDR4 ram and he can re-use his current DDR3 ram. If he can live with the low clock speeds for the applications he uses it's not a bad choice.

 

 

Not good for rendering either.

 

 

I don't think you need 16 threads...

 

 

Decided not to go 2011 but I still want to move my plex server somewhere else. I've been looking at computers and some that I have ran across are.... Which one or something differnent

 

1. PowerEdge T110 II Tower Server $429-550 (Depending on parts, Core i3, 8GB RAM, 500GB HD)
2. Dell Optiplex 3020 - 3.4GHz Intel Core i3-4130, 4GB RAM, 500GB HDD $350
3. Dell Inspiron 3847 i3-4130 4th Gen 3.40GHz 1TB-HDD 8GB-RAM Win8.1 $329
4. Dell Studio XPS 9100 Tower PC 2.8 GHz i7-930 CPU 8GB RAM 1TB HDD Blu-Ray $479Dell XPS 730x Dell XPS 730x, Intel core i7-920 2.66 GHz quad core, 6 GB RAM, Geforce GTX 570 1280 MB, 250 GB SSD, 750 GB HDD $459

[AMD Lover]

Weird, have you tried resetting memory settings in the bios?

Yes, reset to default, and clear CMOS

[brob]

Yep, revised my decision. It would be pretty expensive to switch at this point and I already have an i7 so im just going to buy 32GB of 1866 or 2100Mhz Dominator Platinum's or maybe some G.Skill

 

If you are going to buy 4x8GB and haven't seen it already, you may want to read http://www.anandtech.com/show/7364/memory-scaling-on-haswell. It has some good insights into memory performance.

 

The memory I have now has problems with my motherboard or its starting to go bad. I get a lot of memory errors

 

Is the BIOS set to use XMP?

[AMD Lover]

If you are going to buy 4x8GB and haven't seen it already, you may want to read http://www.anandtech.com/show/7364/memory-scaling-on-haswell. It has some good insights into memory performance.

 

 

Is the BIOS set to use XMP?

It has been, problem existed still, its not set up now

[brob]

It has been, problem existed still, its not set up now

 

Have you tried dropping the speed?