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Hello, im new to this forum and i just want peoples different opinions on my first build, i dont have any specific PC parts yet, thats what i want a bit more help with, im 15 and i have this love for electronics and circuits and shit, and i wanna build a PC, no more that 700 US dollars.

 

I plan on using an amd FX 6 or 8 core CPU due to the 80% performance against an equvalent intel CPU but at much much lower price (no fanboyism intended)

Im looking for a mid, or even micro atx case, id rather have a bigger one because its my first build so more space to work around. Plz recommend a nice one.

i really feel like i want a liquid CPU cooler, i really like the corsair h80i, because its a single 120mm fan mount.

As for GPU i dont have any preference/fanboyism towards nvidia or amd graphics, i need bang for my buck and at least 2 gigs of VRAM.

for power supply, i have no damn idea on what wattage i need for the parts i choose, i think a 500 watt will leave nice expansion/upgrade room for the future.

At least 8 gigs of ram, id go for 16 but it is pretty expensive

For storage i know alot of techies like the 1hdd + 1ssd config, but for me its too complicated, i dont know how to set everything up, so ive though of a single WD Black, a single WD Velociraptor or 2 WD blacks in raid 0, leave your thought plz.

 

For usage: i play games such as: War Thunder, World of Tanks, Minecraft, Battlestations pacific, and i dont play that many current or next gen games, because my current laptop is sooo crappy (intel core i3, inted HD 3000, 4gigs RAM) and usual every day use such watching vids on youtube, internet usage and all that jazz, i also edit and render videos

 

ive played around with picking parts on PCPartpicker.com, but i just guess the parts on the price, i need help with real world performance.

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Hello, im new to this forum and i just want peoples different opinions on my first build, i dont have any specific PC parts yet, thats what i want a bit more help with, im 15 and i have this love for electronics and circuits and shit, and i wanna build a PC, no more that 700 US dollars.

 

For usage: i play games such as: War Thunder, World of Tanks, Minecraft, Battlestations pacific, and i dont play that many current or next gen games, because my current laptop is sooo crappy (intel core i3, inted HD 3000, 4gigs RAM) 

 

ive played around with picking parts on PCPartpicker.com, but i just guess the parts on the price, i need help with real world performance.

 

Hey, welcome to Linus Tech Tips! Here you go! The whole 1 SSD + 1 HDD isn't complicated at all. It's just a matter of changing the C:\ to D:\ when you install programs.

 

 
CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor  ($115.98 @ SuperBiiz) 
Motherboard: ASRock 970 Extreme3 R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard  ($79.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: PNY XLR8 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($60.16 @ NCIX US) 
Video Card: HIS Radeon R9 280 3GB IceQ OC Video Card  ($199.98 @ Newegg) 
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case  ($57.99 @ Micro Center) 
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($29.99 @ Newegg) 
Total: $691.55
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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this?

 
CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor  ($149.98 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: Asus M5A99X EVO R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard  ($109.98 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($84.99 @ NCIX US) 
Video Card: Asus Radeon R9 280 3GB DirectCU II Video Card  ($198.50 @ Newegg) 
Case: Corsair 300R ATX Mid Tower Case  ($49.99 @ Micro Center) 
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer  ($19.98 @ OutletPC) 
Total: $844.35
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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this?

 
CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor  ($149.98 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: Asus M5A99X EVO R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard  ($109.98 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($84.99 @ NCIX US) 
Video Card: Asus Radeon R9 280 3GB DirectCU II Video Card  ($198.50 @ Newegg) 
Case: Corsair 300R ATX Mid Tower Case  ($49.99 @ Micro Center) 
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer  ($19.98 @ OutletPC) 
Total: $844.35
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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TANKS SO MUCH FOR THE INSTANT RESPONSE, i guess that 150 buck is fine over the budget and seens like a very nice setup, will consider!

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this?

 
CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor  ($149.98 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: Asus M5A99X EVO R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard  ($109.98 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($84.99 @ NCIX US) 
Video Card: Asus Radeon R9 280 3GB DirectCU II Video Card  ($198.50 @ Newegg) 
Case: Corsair 300R ATX Mid Tower Case  ($49.99 @ Micro Center) 
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer  ($19.98 @ OutletPC) 
Total: $844.35
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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He said not over $700

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Hey, welcome to Linus Tech Tips! Here you go! The whole 1 SSD + 1 HDD isn't complicated at all. It's just a matter of changing the C:\ to D:\ when you install programs.

 

 
CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor  ($115.98 @ SuperBiiz) 
Motherboard: ASRock 970 Extreme3 R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard  ($79.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: PNY XLR8 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($60.16 @ NCIX US) 
Video Card: HIS Radeon R9 280 3GB IceQ OC Video Card  ($199.98 @ Newegg) 
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case  ($57.99 @ Micro Center) 
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($29.99 @ Newegg) 
Total: $691.55
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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the difference is a bit better because of the 990fx chipset and cpu.

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Both of nice people thanks, but whats the difference between those 2 buld you guys proposed and what do i gain in real world use with the 150 extra buck i should spend on bubblewhales build?

 

Edit: as for bubblewhales buld, its fine to throw in just 1 8gb stick of RAM for future expansion to 16 and a max of 32, but i prefer dual channel conifg, 2x 4gb stick and well later i can throw in another 2 for 16gb

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if you are going to spend 150$ more http://pcpartpicker.com/p/fL226h

 


 

CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor  ($149.98 @ OutletPC) 

Motherboard: MSI 970A-G46 ATX AM3+ Motherboard  ($74.99 @ Amazon) 

Memory: Kingston Blu 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($79.99 @ Amazon) 


Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 280X 3GB Dual-X Video Card  ($239.99 @ Newegg) 

Case: Cooler Master Elite 430 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($27.99 @ Newegg) 


Total: $694.92

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

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the difference is a bit better because of the 990fx chipset and cpu.

You can always get better if you spend more money...

@CoolBeans builds are excellent. I'd go that route if you're in the money.

CPU: Ryzen 9 5900 Cooler: EVGA CLC280 Motherboard: Gigabyte B550i Pro AX RAM: Kingston Hyper X 32GB 3200mhz

Storage: WD 750 SE 500GB, WD 730 SE 1TB GPU: Gigabyte GTX 1050 PSU: Corsair SF750 Case: Streacom DA2

Monitor: LG 27GL83B Mouse: Razer Basilisk V2 Keyboard: G.Skill KM780 Cherry MX Red Speakers: Mackie CR5BT

 

MiniPC - Sold for $100 Profit

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CPU: Intel i3 4160 Cooler: Integrated Motherboard: Integrated

RAM: G.Skill RipJaws 16GB DDR3 Storage: Transcend MSA370 128GB GPU: Intel 4400 Graphics

PSU: Integrated Case: Shuttle XPC Slim

Monitor: LG 29WK500 Mouse: G.Skill MX780 Keyboard: G.Skill KM780 Cherry MX Red

 

Budget Rig 1 - Sold For $750 Profit

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CPU: Intel i5 7600k Cooler: CryOrig H7 Motherboard: MSI Z270 M5

RAM: Crucial LPX 16GB DDR4 Storage: Intel S3510 800GB GPU: Nvidia GTX 980

PSU: Corsair CX650M Case: EVGA DG73

Monitor: LG 29WK500 Mouse: G.Skill MX780 Keyboard: G.Skill KM780 Cherry MX Red

 

OG Gaming Rig - Gone

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CPU: Intel i5 4690k Cooler: Corsair H100i V2 Motherboard: MSI Z97i AC ITX

RAM: Crucial Ballistix 16GB DDR3 Storage: Kingston Fury 240GB GPU: Asus Strix GTX 970

PSU: Thermaltake TR2 Case: Phanteks Enthoo Evolv ITX

Monitor: Dell P2214H x2 Mouse: Logitech MX Master Keyboard: G.Skill KM780 Cherry MX Red

 

 

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Hello and welcome to the forums :)

 

The way you intended to orient the build is ok, the FX 6300 is a decent CPU that will drive your games without problems at reasonable prices, but some of the ideas you had are not that smart.

For example, the AiO (water) CPU coolers, while they look good, they don't perform any better than a decent air cooler, cost more, and are potentially more noisy and unreliable (thanks to the small built in pump).

 

On the storage side, you mentioned you can't understand how the SSD+HDD setup works. It's not complicated at all, you have 2 drives that once you plug in will be seen as 2 separate "folders" one on which you install the OS and main programs/games and the other one where all the mass storage go (not that much used/heavy games, videos, music, etc). For the games you mentioned (specially WoW) the SSD brings an incredible boost to the table, reducing loading times by a ton and avoiding you that fps drop that happens every time you walk to a new zone. If there are any questions about the SSD+HDD setup, you can ask them here.

Also, don't mind spending the extra money on the black  series WD drive, they don't make noticeable speed differences but consume more power, generate more heat and noise. A simple HDD is perfectly reliable. The WD Blue or Seagate Barracuda (they are basically the same) are good enough.

 

This partlist is on your pricepoint, and you have a couple things you can change if you want:

 

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/zbXn99
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/zbXn99/by_merchant/
 
CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor  ($109.99 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master RR-T4-18PK-R1 70.0 CFM Rifle Bearing CPU Cooler  ($23.31 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: Asus M5A97 R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard  ($78.79 @ Newegg) 
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($76.50 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Sandisk Ultra Plus 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($59.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($51.99 @ NCIX US) 
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 280 3GB WINDFORCE Video Card  ($209.99 @ NCIX US) 
Case: NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($34.99 @ Micro Center) 
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($54.99 @ Newegg) 
Total: $700.54
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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I added the Cooler Master R4 (bascially a cheaper version of the Hyper 212 Evo), which is more quiet than the stock cooler, and gives you headroom to OC.
The motherboard is a reliable choice with most of the features you might need.
The SSD I went for is the 128GB Sandisk, it's pretty much a no-brainer on that price and capacity, pretty hard to beat performance-wise.
Again, on the HDD; barracuda or Blue, doesn't matter.
The R9 280 is a very good performing GPU, not much to add here.
For the case the Source 210 and 220 series are budget kings, look for reviews, there is pretty much no competitor for them when they get discounts.
To be sure you can upgrade later, and still OC everything on the build, 600W is more than enough.
 
If you have to make cuts, you can postpone the purchase of the aftermarket CPU cooler and you can downgrade to a R9 270X (try not to). If you find some extra money, stepping up to a better air cooler (like the 212 evo), a better CPU (like the FX 8320) or purchasing the windowed version of the case (which is a couple bucks more), are always available options.
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Hello and welcome to the forums :)

 

The way you intended to orient the build is ok, the FX 6300 is a decent CPU that will drive your games without problems at reasonable prices, but some of the ideas you had are not that smart.

For example, the AiO (water) CPU coolers, while they look good, they don't perform any better than a decent air cooler, cost more, and are potentially more noisy and unreliable (thanks to the small built in pump).

 

On the storage side, you mentioned you can't understand how the SSD+HDD setup works. It's not complicated at all, you have 2 drives that once you plug in will be seen as 2 separate "folders" one on which you install the OS and main programs/games and the other one where all the mass storage go (not that much used/heavy games, videos, music, etc). For the games you mentioned (specially WoW) the SSD brings an incredible boost to the table, reducing loading times by a ton and avoiding you that fps drop that happens every time you walk to a new zone. If there are any questions about the SSD+HDD setup, you can ask them here.

Also, don't mind spending the extra money on the black  series WD drive, they don't make noticeable speed differences but consume more power, generate more heat and noise. A simple HDD is perfectly reliable. The WD Blue or Seagate Barracuda (they are basically the same) are good enough.

 

This partlist is on your pricepoint, and you have a couple things you can change if you want:

 

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/zbXn99
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/zbXn99/by_merchant/
 
CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor  ($109.99 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master RR-T4-18PK-R1 70.0 CFM Rifle Bearing CPU Cooler  ($23.31 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: Asus M5A97 R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard  ($78.79 @ Newegg) 
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($76.50 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Sandisk Ultra Plus 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($59.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($51.99 @ NCIX US) 
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 280 3GB WINDFORCE Video Card  ($209.99 @ NCIX US) 
Case: NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($34.99 @ Micro Center) 
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($54.99 @ Newegg) 
Total: $700.54
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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I added the Cooler Master R4 (bascially a cheaper version of the Hyper 212 Evo), which is more quiet than the stock cooler, and gives you headroom to OC.
The motherboard is a reliable choice with most of the features you might need.
The SSD I went for is the 128GB Sandisk, it's pretty much a no-brainer on that price and capacity, pretty hard to beat performance-wise.
Again, on the HDD; barracuda or Blue, doesn't matter.
The R9 280 is a very good performing GPU, not much to add here.
For the case the Source 210 and 220 series are budget kings, look for reviews, there is pretty much no competitor for them when they get discounts.
To be sure you can upgrade later, and still OC everything on the build, 600W is more than enough.
 
If you have to make cuts, you can postpone the purchase of the aftermarket CPU cooler and you can downgrade to a R9 270X (try not to). If you find some extra money, stepping up to a better air cooler (like the 212 evo), a better CPU (like the FX 8320) or purchasing the windowed version of the case (which is a couple bucks more), are always available options.

 

Very helpful i must say, but about storage what about the WD velociraptor or the seagate cheetah? i would buy a 1tb SSd or raid 0 2 500 gb but SSDs rigth now are TOO DAMN EXPENSIVE, also how about doing a RAID0 on 2 WD blues, or barracudas? The 1hdd + 1ssd now that it is explained its much more simple, but how do i use at as the default download folder location, insted of for everything i install have to go to custom install, and choose the HDD as the location, is there a software solution or is it a BIOS solution?

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here's my thoughts about your build:

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor  ($115.98 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master RR-T4-18PK-R1 70.0 CFM Rifle Bearing CPU Cooler  ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD3 ATX AM3+ Motherboard  ($99.99 @ NCIX US)
Memory: Kingston XMP Blu Red Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($75.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: A-Data Premier Pro SP600 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($64.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($51.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 280X 3GB Dual-X Video Card  ($239.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair SPEC-03 Orange ATX Mid Tower Case  ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $743.90
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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I can advise you to research more about the builds that each one of us recommends and you can choose what's better. It's overbudgeted by $44 but I managed to squeezed in some decent parts in it. I prefer the Hyper T4 because it's optimized to be an AMD CPU cooler and a sapphire 280x and a gigabyte 990fx-ud3 to give you a little headroom for future high overclocks and crossfire

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Very helpful i must say, but about storage what about the WD velociraptor or the seagate cheetah? i would buy a 1tb SSd or raid 0 2 500 gb but SSDs rigth now are TOO DAMN EXPENSIVE, also how about doing a RAID0 on 2 WD blues, or barracudas? The 1hdd + 1ssd now that it is explained its much more simple, but how do i use at as the default download folder location, insted of for everything i install have to go to custom install, and choose the HDD as the location, is there a software solution or is it a BIOS solution?

tbh Velociraptor and cheetahs are older products, a choice for enthusiasts before SSDs were on the mainstream market, and they are some noisy little hard drives. Raid configurations, specially raid 0, specially for beginners are not recommended at all, the speed boost is not going to be as massive as having an SSD, and you are a lot more prone to face failures and instability.

You don't need a massive SSD, a 128 GB SSD is more than enough to hold an OS, basic programs like anti-virus, browsers, office applications, and your most used games. Everything else goes to the hard drive. There is no special configuration or maintenance needed on a storage solution with an SSD, just change your default steam/origin install folder and the default download folder on the browser, so you don't fill it up as quick.

As you can see on my nick/profile picture, I know what it is to play WoW, and there is a major difference on that game if you install it on an SSD, not even a velociraptor raid will change that. And basically every game where there are loading screens will have its time's speed up. 

 

You don't have to do "custom install" on everything you do (is not hard anyway), just go to the settings on your browser (chrome, firefox, IE, they are all the same regarding this aspect) change the download folder, then do the same on Steam/Origin whatever game client you use. And if you are that concerned about programs you might install, there is always the possibility of changing the default path on the register. All stuff installed on windows will have their default location changed automatically to another drive. You can PM me about it, or if you want I can link you to the tutorial on the Microsoft website.

Don't be afraid of using the SSD and filling it up, if you see everything is going very slow and there is a lot of storage being used, just select some random crap and stuff in there, cut it and paste it on the D: drive.

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Hello, im new to this forum and i just want peoples different opinions on my first build, i dont have any specific PC parts yet, thats what i want a bit more help with, im 15 and i have this love for electronics and circuits and shit, and i wanna build a PC, no more that 700 US dollars.

 

I plan on using an amd FX 6 or 8 core CPU due to the 80% performance against an equvalent intel CPU but at much much lower price (no fanboyism intended)

Im looking for a mid, or even micro atx case, id rather have a bigger one because its my first build so more space to work around. Plz recommend a nice one.

i really feel like i want a liquid CPU cooler, i really like the corsair h80i, because its a single 120mm fan mount.

As for GPU i dont have any preference/fanboyism towards nvidia or amd graphics, i need bang for my buck and at least 2 gigs of VRAM.

for power supply, i have no damn idea on what wattage i need for the parts i choose, i think a 500 watt will leave nice expansion/upgrade room for the future.

At least 8 gigs of ram, id go for 16 but it is pretty expensive

For storage i know alot of techies like the 1hdd + 1ssd config, but for me its too complicated, i dont know how to set everything up, so ive though of a single WD Black, a single WD Velociraptor or 2 WD blacks in raid 0, leave your thought plz.

 

For usage: i play games such as: War Thunder, World of Tanks, Minecraft, Battlestations pacific, and i dont play that many current or next gen games, because my current laptop is sooo crappy (intel core i3, inted HD 3000, 4gigs RAM) and usual every day use such watching vids on youtube, internet usage and all that jazz, i also edit and render videos

 

ive played around with picking parts on PCPartpicker.com, but i just guess the parts on the price, i need help with real world performance.

 

Sadly much of the wish list cannot be accommodated within the budget. An ssd would also be a great addition, but I think a decent psu that meets the gpu minimum and a good motherboard is more important.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor  ($109.99 @ Amazon)

CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($29.99 @ Micro Center)

Motherboard: ASRock 990FX Extreme3 ATX AM3+/AM3 Motherboard  ($99.99 @ Newegg)

Memory: Team Xtreem Dark Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($72.99 @ Newegg)

Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($51.99 @ NCIX US)

Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 280 3GB WINDFORCE Video Card  ($209.99 @ NCIX US)

Case: BitFenix Comrade ATX Mid Tower Case  ($39.99 @ NCIX US)

Power Supply: Corsair CX 600W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($68.94 @ Amazon)

Total: $683.87

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80+ ratings certify electrical efficiency. Not quality.

 

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