Mr Obama, do you have a heart? Open letter by Mads Gilbert

[Yuval]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_disengagement_from_Gaza

 

All about taking their homes and bombing them 

[Prömetheus]

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Do you really think they wanted to kill Palestinians?

Gewd... you're so biased.

Several reports that Hamas hide weapons on houses. Also did you know Israel told civilians to leave the area that was going to be bombed? Well, Hamas' Police (don't remember the darn name) threat with violence to residents so they can't leave their homes, they just block the exit

Israel deputy minister said so.

pic.twitter.com/9QsDTuHOHy

[Yuval]

Oh boy, quotes and unrelated pictures of jews, our PM waved his hand and it looks like a nazi salute. How not propaganda and accurate information. 

[Yuval]

Original text from a manual taken from hamas captive

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

"The soldiers and commanders (of the IDF) must limit their use of weapons and tactics that lead to the harm and unnecessary loss of people and [destruction of] civilian facilities. It is difficult for them to get the most use out of their firearms, especially of supporting fire [e.g. artillery]."

 

The manual goes on to explain that the “presence of civilians are pockets of resistance” that cause three major problems for advancing troops:

(1) Problems with opening fire

(2) Problems in controlling the civilian population during operations and afterward

(3) Assurance of supplying medical care to civilians who need it

 

"The destruction of civilian homes: This increases the hatred of the citizens towards the attackers [the IDF] and increases their gathering [support] around the city defenders (resistance forces[i.e. Hamas])."

 

 

http://www.idfblog.com/blog/2014/08/04/captured-hamas-combat-manual-explains-benefits-human-shields/

 

I bet you can do a quick search and see this is a peace of actual evidence, and that the translation is correct

 

 

As you said shujaya is not militarized 

 

[Colonel_Gerdauf]

Elements of both sides wish to eradicate the other, quite often openly, until the general populations of both sides can publicly reject these elements within themselves, this conflict will never end.

 

Can we please stop having this debate on these forums? It serves no purpose, as those on one side quite obviously harbor nothing but hatred for those on the other side, and vice versa.

 

Meanwhile the Chinese are watching, waiting, and laughing.

 

Which is why threads like this should not only be locked quickly, but also be stopped from being created. This may be the off-topic section, but this is a tech forum, not a political one. IF you want to talk about Israel and Gaza, then please speak of it elsewhere.

[Prömetheus]

Original text from a manual taken from hamas captive

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

"The soldiers and commanders (of the IDF) must limit their use of weapons and tactics that lead to the harm and unnecessary loss of people and [destruction of] civilian facilities. It is difficult for them to get the most use out of their firearms, especially of supporting fire [e.g. artillery]."

 

The manual goes on to explain that the “presence of civilians are pockets of resistance” that cause three major problems for advancing troops:

 

(1) Problems with opening fire

(2) Problems in controlling the civilian population during operations and afterward

(3) Assurance of supplying medical care to civilians who need it

"The destruction of civilian homes: This increases the hatred of the citizens towards the attackers [the IDF] and increases their gathering [support] around the city defenders (resistance forces[i.e. Hamas])."

 

 

http://www.idfblog.com/blog/2014/08/04/captured-hamas-combat-manual-explains-benefits-human-shield

 

I bet you can do a quick search and see this is a peace of actual evidence, and that the translation is correct

 

Infact, a newspaper caught that the Israeli forces uses children as human shields

pic.twitter.com/MBlryDnSiU

[Sauron]

Unfortunately Obama amongst other things is a politician, and politicians do what their electorate wants. Israel was a mistake to begin with, but the us had to take it personally and force opposers to stand down even beyond any reason. The weapons Israel is using come directly from the us. Obama just doesn't have the power to do anything because the congress would just eat him alive.

[Yuval]

In the intefadas it was a thing, but you are taking this out of context. Even if he is young he was throwing stones and a part of protests, he was used as a human shield against the people he stood with to deter riots. court forbid this action and it's illegal. 

 

PROTESTERS used to deter riots by using them as human shields. not us shooting kids and grabbing babies to defend ourselfs

[Prömetheus]

In the intefadas it was a thing, but you are taking this out of context. Even if he is young he was throwing stones and a part of protests, he was used as a human shield against the people he stood with to deter riots. court forbid this action and it's illegal. 

This is just the same as saying human shield is legal by the Israelis but illegal for the palestinians (not to mention there is no evidence of human shield used by Hamas).

[Trik'Stari]

See this argument? This is why we can't have nice things.

[Yuval]

This is just the same as saying human shield is legal by the Israelis but illegal for the palestinians (not to mention there is no evidence of human shield used by Hamas).

 

not one bit

 

Never said it was legal, supreme court has forbid this action in 2005, and i see no faul play at using A violent protestor (who throws stone, molotovs etc) as a shield from his group. get a piece of his own medicine

 

last post. had fun seeing you attempt each time to feed false info to me. Bye

[Prömetheus]

 

not one bit

Using speech as a proof and not action is not a "real proof".

[Yuval]

Using speech as a proof and not action is not a "real proof".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9Z63Pxn4OQ

 

Using speech is not proof hehehe

 

 

Israel deputy minister said so.

pic.twitter.com/9QsDTuHOHy

 

 

 

I guess when you post this BS it's ok then?