RAM again

[testcy]

I am looking at Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB (4x8GB) DDR4 3600MHz C16 for around €200/$200 which is less than half the money I need to spend for a decent speed 32GB (2x16GB) DDR5 kit and I wonder if it still makes sense to build a new system with this or similar kits? I can still find some new components for AM4/LGA1700, but they seem to disappear quickly (and prices at least for Intel CPUs keep increasing).

[MadAnt250]

If you are trying to save money, sure it makes sense going with DDR4. 

 

People will disagree and try to up sell DDR5. Really, it depends on the deal and other circumstances.

[Tetras]

35 minutes ago, testcy said:

 I can still find some new components for AM4/LGA1700, but they seem to disappear quickly (and prices at least for Intel CPUs keep increasing).

This is going to depend on what you're building the PC for and how long you want it to last.

 

There's no point buying into DDR4, if that system is not going to suffice longer-term. E.g. if you're spending $2000 overall, the RAM cost is not something I'd make this decision on.

[Pusbucket]

31 minutes ago, testcy said:

I am looking at Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB (4x8GB) DDR4 3600MHz C16 for around €200/$200 which is less than half the amount of money I need to spend for a decent speed 32GB (2x16GB) DDR5 kit and I wonder if it still makes sense to build a new system with this or similar kits? I can still find some new components for AM4/LGA1700, but they seem to disappear quickly (and prices at least for Intel CPUs keep increasing).

If you are updating an existing system, sure.

If building a new system, it may be worth the extra $$ to go with a DDR5 platform.

Also depends on if you want to overclock/chipset.

for example LGA1700 DDR4 boards with the Z790 chipset are harder to find and not cheap any more.

A comparable DDR5 with the Z790 chipset board is much less expensive, by $100 or more.

 

[testcy]

22 minutes ago, Tetras said:

This is going to depend on what you're building the PC for and how long you want it to last.

 

There's no point buying into DDR4, if that system is not going to suffice longer-term. E.g. if you're spending $2000 overall, the RAM cost is not something I'd make this decision on.

Why wouldn't a system with DDR4 is not going to suffice longer-term? And if spending $200 for RAM, obviously I would not spend $2000 overall.

 

18 minutes ago, Pusbucket said:

If you are updating an existing system, sure.

If building a new system, it may be worth the extra $$ to go with a DDR5 platform.

Also depends on if you want to overclock/chipset.

for example LGA1700 DDR4 boards with the Z790 chipset are harder to find and not cheap any more.

A comparable DDR5 with the Z790 chipset board is much less expensive, by $100 or more.

I am building a new system and I am not overclocking. B760/B660 motherboards are still available for less than €150/$150.

[RONOTHAN##]

1 minute ago, testcy said:

And if spending $200 for RAM, obviously I would not spend $2000 overall.

That isn't obvious, plenty of systems before the RAMpocolypse spent ~$100 on RAM and yet the entire system was $2500. Plus even if it should be "obvious," there's enough dumb decisions made on here that you really can't assume anything like that. 

 

4 minutes ago, testcy said:

Why wouldn't a system with DDR4 is not going to suffice longer-term?

It will be slower and be less able to be upgraded. If you're one of those people who does the Ship of Thesius style upgrading, biting the bullet and going DDR5 now would probably make more sense, though if you build a system once every ~5 years and sell your old one/move it to server duty, going DDR4 now isn't really going to be much of a downside. 

[Pusbucket]

9 minutes ago, testcy said:

I am building a new system and I am not overclocking. B760/B660 motherboards are still available for less than €150/$150.

I'm aware. I upgraded my system in Dec. and went with a B760 board specifically because I already had the DDR4 ram and that saved enough to pay for the cooler and then some.

I would have preferred to go with a Z790 board, but the RAM prices were starting to climb and DDR4/Z790 boards were becoming scarce.

For a short while Newegg dropped all the DDR4 boards until Ram prices went really nuts and people started hanging onto their DDR4 ram, but still wanted to upgrade anyway, like me.

[Mumintroll]

With the current insane prices on RAM I would pick DDR4, if you can get it for half the price as you say.

There are more important things in life that you can use money on, so don't pick DDR5 now.

[testcy]

6 minutes ago, Pusbucket said:

I'm aware. I upgraded my system in Dec. and went with a B760 board specifically because I already had the DDR4 ram and that saved enough to pay for the cooler and then some.

I would have preferred to go with a Z790 board, but the RAM prices were starting to climb and DDR4/Z790 boards were becoming scarce.

For a short while Newegg dropped all the DDR4 boards until Ram prices went really nuts and people started hanging onto their DDR4 ram, but still wanted to upgrade anyway, like me.

What DDR4 did you have and what was the upgrade?

 

4 minutes ago, Mumintroll said:

With the current insane prices on RAM I would pick DDR4, if you can get it for half the price as you say.

There are more important things in life that you can use money on, so don't pick DDR5 now.

Would a Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB (4x8GB) DDR4 3600MHz C16 kit be a good choice?

[Pusbucket]

15 minutes ago, testcy said:

What DDR4 did you have and what was the upgrade?

 

it was some 16 gb of Corsair Vengeance 3000. The upgrade was from an I5-6600K/MSI Z170 board to an I5-12600KF, Gigabyte B760M Gaming PLUS WIFI DDR4, and a Thermalright Spirit 120 cooler. got them during Newegg's X-Mas sales, cpu, $120, mobo, $99.

I've since been lucky enough to find a G-Skill Ripjaws 32gb kit of DDR4 3600 on e-bay for $130 a couple of months ago and didn't get ripped off!

[testcy]

2 minutes ago, Pusbucket said:

it was some 16 gb of Corsair Vengeance 3000. The upgrade was from an I5-6600K/MSI Z170 board to an I5-12600KF, Gigabyte B760M Gaming PLUS WIFI DDR4, and a Thermalright Spirit 120 cooler.

I've since been lucky enough to find a G-Skill Ripjaws 32gb kit of DDR4 3600 on e-bay for $130 a couple of months ago and didn't get ripped off!

What about graphics? If you paid only $130 a couple of months ago, then even $200 seems too much.

[Pusbucket]

5 minutes ago, testcy said:

What about graphics? If you paid only $130 a couple of months ago, then even $200 seems too much.

you asked what the upgrade was, didn't upgrade gpu. It's an Asus DUAL 2060 OC 6gb.

 

Ram prices have increased about 300% in the last 3 months. $200 is about right. You can find some kits for less on e-bay, but scammers have been coming out all over because of the high prices, so buyer beware.

I got lucky.

[testcy]

1 hour ago, Pusbucket said:

you asked what the upgrade was, didn't upgrade gpu. It's an Asus DUAL 2060 OC 6gb.

 

Ram prices have increased about 300% in the last 3 months. $200 is about right. You can find some kits for less on e-bay, but scammers have been coming out all over because of the high prices, so buyer beware.

I got lucky.

I asked about graphics, because you bought a CPU without an iGPU, that I would personally avoid. Now, i5-12600KF costs almost $200, about the same as i5-12400.

[Pusbucket]

3 minutes ago, testcy said:

I asked about graphics, because you bought a CPU without an iGPU, that I would personally avoid. Now, i5-12600KF costs almost $200, about the same as i5-12400.

edited my post above, sorry. yeah I got them during Newegg's X-Mas sales, cpu, $120, mobo, $99.

[thrasher_565]

newegg has a bundle deal for 32gb ddr4 with aio for $260 $290 sell the aio for $50-$60 and you for 32gb ddr4 for $240

 

(they did have a $270)

 

https://www.newegg.ca/Product/ComboDealDetails?ItemList=Combo.4855851

 

vs 

 

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/P7RYcf/team-t-force-delta-rgb-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3600-cl18-memory-tf3d432g3600hc18jdc01

Edited March 27 by thrasher_565