2g is 2slow...

[Edward78]

2g should atleast be fast enough for GPS, I understand not watching movies or playing games, but wow the cheap sell phone network providers o suck in this area. Make it 1 meg a sec.

[Donut417]

6 minutes ago, Edward78 said:

2g should atleast be fast enough for GPS, I understand not watching movies or playing games, but wow the cheap sell phone network providers o suck in this area. Make it 1 meg a sec.

Not a problem in the US, they pretty much have shut down all the 2/3G networks to make room for 5G. 

[saintlouisbagels]

14 minutes ago, Edward78 said:

Make it 1 meg a sec.

How? Are you suggesting they make a new cellular standard, possibly called 3G and maybe in the future 4G ?

[whispous]

14 minutes ago, Edward78 said:

2g should atleast be fast enough for GPS, I understand not watching movies or playing games, but wow the cheap sell phone network providers o suck in this area. Make it 1 meg a sec.

That's not how GPS works.

[thekingofmonks]

GPS is discrete from cell. Is your phone trying to use cell for precise location?

[emosun]

you dont need cell tower data for gps to function

[Alex Atkin UK]

2 hours ago, emosun said:

you dont need cell tower data for gps to function

I wonder if they mean streaming the maps, as that would be pretty terrible even on EDGE.

[Edward78]

3 hours ago, whispous said:

That's not how GPS works.

I know that, I mean to download the map along the way, when you are kicked down to a lower speed. It shouldn't be dial up speed.

[saintlouisbagels]

1 hour ago, Edward78 said:

I know that, I mean to download the map along the way, when you are kicked down to a lower speed. It shouldn't be dial up speed.

No that is literally how that works. You can't expect to have good cellular speeds everywhere. That's a luxury.

 

Sounds like you need to pick up a dedicated GPS device. I use mine whenever I drive up to New Hampshire/Vermont and my dumb ass makes a wrong turn.

https://www.garmin.com/en-US/c/automotive/car-gps-navigation/?FILTER_FEATURE_GPSNAV=true#products

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/searchpage.jsp?st=garmin+gps

[whispous]

4 hours ago, Edward78 said:

I know that, I mean to download the map along the way, when you are kicked down to a lower speed. It shouldn't be dial up speed.

Well as stated above, 2g is much faster than dial-up.

 

And it doesn't go faster - that's not a limit by the network, it's the peak of the tech.

 

Your problem is not that "2g needs to be faster", your problem is that your network provider hasn't bothered to provide 3+g coverage.

[Alex Atkin UK]

5 hours ago, whispous said:

Well as stated above, 2g is much faster than dial-up.

On the contrary, as stated above GPRS WAS dial-up speed.  EDGE improved that but if everyone else is also stuck on the same 2G tower then odds are you're back to dialup again.

 

What makes this worse is if using GPS for navigation/maps you are moving, so you are constantly losing the signal.  This is a problem as on 2G you will keep stalling as the signal quality changes, before its finished downloading the data.  Even on 4G its not uncommon, which is why GPS/maps apps usually have an option to pre-download the data before a trip.

[Edward78]

2 hours ago, Alex Atkin UK said:

On the contrary, as stated above GPRS WAS dial-up speed.  EDGE improved that but if everyone else is also stuck on the same 2G tower then odds are you're back to dialup again.

 

What makes this worse is if using GPS for navigation/maps you are moving, so you are constantly losing the signal.  This is a problem as on 2G you will keep stalling as the signal quality changes, before its finished downloading the data.  Even on 4G its not uncommon, which is why GPS/maps apps usually have an option to pre-download the data before a trip.

I mean if you don't have that part of the map already downloaded Like a hour+ detour. If you are out of date a kick back to 1 meg would be enough for that extra map to download.

[Biohazard777]

4 hours ago, Edward78 said:

I mean if you don't have that part of the map already downloaded Like a hour+ detour. If you are out of date a kick back to 1 meg would be enough for that extra map to download.

Download a larger area, or use a different app which allows you to download the whole country/region you need.
And it takes a while for your map to be out of date, infrastructure doesn’t change on a daily basis.

[ianm_ozzy]

On 5/14/2025 at 8:04 AM, Edward78 said:

2g should atleast be fast enough for GPS, I understand not watching movies or playing games, but wow the cheap sell phone network providers o suck in this area. Make it 1 meg a sec.

2G really?

It was turned off where I live about a decade ago.

3G was turned off last year.

 

[Edward78]

On 6/22/2025 at 10:23 AM, ianm_ozzy said:

2G really?

It was turned off where I live about a decade ago.

3G was turned off last year.

 

I mean 2g speeds that the cell providers kick you back to when you go over the 4g/5g limit, I don't actually mean 2g/

[Donut417]

51 minutes ago, Edward78 said:

I mean 2g speeds that the cell providers kick you back to when you go over the 4g/5g limit, I don't actually mean 2g/

Well they do that so you won’t use more data. As cellular networks are limited.