Internet help

[hey_wasupppp]

I don't know how much mbps i need for my house.

In my house i use:

1 ps5

1 ps5 slim

1 pc 

about 2 mac air laptops

and 1 IMac

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I use both of the ps5 for FN and COD

I use the pc for............. NVM

the laptops for mostly roblox

and IMac for video editing.

 

I want to know how many mbps runs smoothly with these.

 

TY

[podkall]

So you do Naruto clone magic and use all devices at once, or have other people at your house, or is just one/two devices max active at time?

[hey_wasupppp]

I use at least 2 at a time but other people us it too.

[podkall]

If there's like multiple devices needing internet at time, and I don't know if total download/upload speed accounts for single or multiple connections.

 

You don't need a lot of bandwidth for things like server connection to a game, but I do know the more people are on the same network the more bandwidth is better.

 

Because if you have like 100, and someone gets close to 100 on download while you're playing some online game, the connection could worsen if the ISP hard caps you at 100, and you could start to lag.

 

It's good idea to know how to convert these things, for example 200mbps is ~25MB/s, which is pretty decent download.

 

I mentioned 200, it's a decent minimum value if the budget is tight, but it's not completely terrible download if you don't need crazy download speeds.

 

200mbps can download 50GB game in 30 minutes, if there's no throttling it can support like 7 4K Netflix streams at once, this is just download though of course.

 

And how the ISP handles more connections, and the plans.

 

Also the 100 example, it depends too, like sometimes the ISP connection can allow speeds above the paid plan, if they have "room" for that right?

 

I think that's enough wall of text.

[Donut417]

2 hours ago, hey_wasupppp said:

I want to know how many mbps runs smoothly with these.

From what I see from your post, you do some online gaming. Gaming online doesnt require a lot of bandwidth, its mainly the ping that your worried about. Also game downloads are a thing, and a faster connection means faster it downloads. Id think you probably sub to some streaming services.... Netflix for example needs 25 Mbps per 4K stream. 

 

I can tell you with 150 Mbps down 20 Mbps up on my Comcast connection. We have probably 2 to 3 TV's streaming (1080p or lower) and I can play my games just fine. 

 

Really comes down to how you and everyone use the internet. If you are heavy users, then you might want a faster connection. If you are lighter users, then a slower one. The only reason we have 150 Mbps internet is because it's the cheapest plan they offer. But it works fine for our needs for the most part. 

[Blue4130]

2 hours ago, hey_wasupppp said:

I don't know how much mbps i need for my house.

In my house i use:

1 ps5

1 ps5 slim

1 pc 

about 2 mac air laptops

and 1 IMac

------------------------------------------------------

I use both of the ps5 for FN and COD

I use the pc for............. NVM

the laptops for mostly roblox

and IMac for video editing.

 

I want to know how many mbps runs smoothly with these.

 

TY

How many people are in the house? That will help narrow down a need. 1 sweaty gamer needs much less than a family with three teenagers. (unless said sweater gamer has an addiction to hentai)

[hey_wasupppp]

So there are 2 Roblox players—Roblox is chill, not really a big deal.

My bro uses the PS5 for Fortnite. He’s not the sweatiest, but he plays a lot.

I’m out here using both PC and PS5 at the same time like it’s nothing. I’ve won FN Cash Cup twice in a row (no big deal, just saying). I’m sweaty, but not that sweaty.

And yeah, at any given time, all the devices are being used except the iMac

 

so stress 

[E-waste]

4 hours ago, hey_wasupppp said:

I don't know how much mbps i need

If you have non-4K televisions, then each Netflix hulu stwam will be 1/4 the amount of mbps

 

Netflix on their own page says 3 mbps for standard HD 1080p stream

 

Yep, 3.

 

For 4K (and are you really paying that close attention to be able to see any quality difference?)

 

15-20 mbps

 

So the best way to setup your network is to use a router / wi-fi router that has quality QoS.

 

QoS that is well designed, will allow you to limit bandwidth (mbps) PER-DEVICE.

 

Otherwise, really cheap software will only allow limiting the maximum download / upload, which still allows any device to use as much as the overall limit at all times.

 

Example

 

Let's say you get a 100 mbits/s top speed download plan.  This is actually 10 megabyes per seconds download.

 

1 GB is 1024 MB, so 1000 / 10 = 100 seconds.

 

Many games today are an abaurd size, over 50 GB, which is quite alot, sometimes it's closer to 90 GB.

 

If all games were 90GB and you have a 2 TB hard disk, you can only store 20 or 23 games maximum, which is why I do not appreciate large games.

 

A 50 GB game will take 5,000+ seconds, 6,000 for math simplicity and variable game sizes.

 

About 100 minutes for a 50GB game, not too much to complain about, how long would it take a drive to a store, browse the games, find one you like, and drive back home?  About the same amount of time.

 

So 100 mb/s top speed will saturate the connection and all devices have to compete and the router will slow down your download to handle other requests.  It depends on how patient you are willing to be.

 

To solve this, you could limit your steam / GOG (good old games), download limit to 90 mb/s, or 9 mbytes/s, leaving 10 mbits for all other devices.  It doesn't take much to load a website, and streaming services cache 90+ seconds the show ahead of the current position, so it's not pulling data at a constant rate.  More like continous buffering as it is played.

 

What is most important is upload.  If anyone wants to send theri voice or video to someone else, such as a VoIP or video conference, a slow upload will make it difficult for others to hear what is trying to be sent, because there is not enough bandwidth to send voice / video consistently.

 

I'd say for voice only 5 mbits/s should be PLENTY.  This would allow a 256 kb/s stereo stream at standard settings, cd / dvd sampling rate.

 

For video, I don't really know.  There are several different video formats, and it's not as easy to learn how much each requires for various resolutions (size / detail of video) so I'd say 10 mbit/s would be a minimum for sure.  So combine that 15 mbit/s upload should be plenty for video conferencing but I shouldn't be recommending because I have no Earthly idea and have never tested it and never had to use it.

[podkall]

28 minutes ago, hey_wasupppp said:

So there are 2 Roblox players—Roblox is chill, not really a big deal.

My bro uses the PS5 for Fortnite. He’s not the sweatiest, but he plays a lot.

I’m out here using both PC and PS5 at the same time like it’s nothing. I’ve won FN Cash Cup twice in a row (no big deal, just saying). I’m sweaty, but not that sweaty.

And yeah, at any given time, all the devices are being used except the iMac

 

so stress 

I'd carefully read the ISP provider website you're choosing, unless you haven't chosen that and have options too,

 

there are things like the "maximum bandwidth", where there can be explanation for example certain % of "maximum bandwidth" might be "minimum guaranteed bandwidth", etc.

 

even with like 100mbps on high traffic where you could get capped at like 30mbps speed, there's a chance the bandwidth can be decent and smooth for few people that aren't really downloading/uploading too much data, just an example though

[Donut417]

To add on to @podkallabove statements. You also need to be aware if the ISP has any data caps. My ISP has a 1.2 TB data cap. It sounds like a lot until you get people heavily using streaming and downloading games. 

 

Consider the type of internet as well. Cellular will have limits based on tower congestion. Docsis cable might have limits due to overloaded nodes. Generally Fiber is less susceptible to issues like this, but not entirely immune. 

[dogwitch]

also be aware some games do asset streaming which sucks up bw and data.

Flight sim and cod this years/last year and a test case one a year or 2 before that that cod abandon due to old engine design.

[podkall]

5 hours ago, dogwitch said:

also be aware some games do asset streaming which sucks up bw and data.

Flight sim and cod this years/last year and a test case one a year or 2 before that that cod abandon due to old engine design.

Fortnite does it only little bit for skins, but those can be pre-downloaded: