Help with PSU

[Gamerz_X90]

Hi! So I recently upgraded my GPU from an gtx 1630 to an RTX 3060 Ti, but now my PC doesnt boot. I did swap PSU back from my 750w to a 600w due to it breaking but when i had done my prebuild test it worked fine. Here are my specs and any help is greatly appreciated!

 

CASE: MSI MAG VAMPIRIC 011C

 

MOTHERBOARD: TUF GAMING B550 PLUS WIFI II

 

CPU: RYZEN 5 4500

 

CPU FAN: DEEPCOOL AK400 Digital

 

RAM: CORSAIR Vengeance LPX 4x8GB 3600MHz

 

STORAGE: 2x Samsung 970 EVO PLUS, 2TB SEAGATE Barracuda

 

PSU: EVGA 600w W1

 

GPU: MSI RTX 3060 TI GAMING X TRIO

[Gamerz_X90]

Just now, Gamerz_X90 said:

PSU: EVGA 600w W1

And yes Ik this is a crap PSU

[OddOod]

I'm a bit confused. So, you got it to boot caseless, then installed in a case and it doesn't boot. Is that correct?
If so, pull it out of the case and re test. Try it with the old GPU too. 
Also, when is "doesn't boot", what does it do? Do any lights come on or fans spin? Have you tried jumping the power button pins on the mobo with a screwdriver/coin/nail file/something highly conductive?
Also, try jumping the PSU with the paperclip trick and make sure that it's powering on. (unplug everything else too)
We kind of need more info.

Also, that isn't just a "crap" PSU, it's one which is actively problematic.

[Windows7ge]

So for the pre-build test you used the old 600W and the new GPU. This worked fine, correct? Then after putting it in the chassis it would not turn on.

 

Does the motherboard have any standby LED's? Any indicator of life before pressing the power button?

[Gamerz_X90]

54 minutes ago, Windows7ge said:

So for the pre-build test you used the old 600W and the new GPU. This worked fine, correct? Then after putting it in the chassis it would not turn on.

 

Does the motherboard have any standby LED's? Any indicator of life before pressing the power button?

So It does show the standby LEDs but it just turns on then immediately off

[Windows7ge]

40 minutes ago, Gamerz_X90 said:

So It does show the standby LEDs but it just turns on then immediately off

If the only changed components are the PSU and GPU how was the pre-build test conducted? You did a GPU upgrade and a PSU swap it wasn't a from scratch upgrade.

 

Did you remove the motherboard and everything when you upgrade the GPU and PSU or did you just remove the GPU and PSU, then install the new ones in the chassis?

 

This simplifies the troubleshooting steps if we know what was already working.

[Matacks]

Based on your system specs I don't beleive your PSU has enough oomph to turn the PC on.  When the PC is first turned on there is a momentary power spike as the PC draws maximum power for a few seconds.  Your PSU may be coming up short.  This may explain why your last PSU worked while your newer lower wattage PSU does not.

 

If you input your parts into a PSU calculator you will find that the recommended PSU wattage will be 750 watts for the entire system.

 

I recommended buying a 750w 80+ rated PSU and trying again.

 

The ryzen 5 is a very efficient CPU.  Its only 65w TDP.  Most of that power draw is coming from the 3060 ti GPU and the rest of your stuff. 

 

MSI seemed to be the nicest PSU calculator i could find.   There used to be one called extremeoutervision which was everyone's favorite but it is no more.

 

https://www.msi.com/power-supply-calculator

 

This calculator didn't have your ryzen 5 4500 so just input the 5500 instead.  It has the same 65w TDP.  See for yourself.

[Gamerz_X90]

3 hours ago, Matacks said:

Based on your system specs I don't beleive your PSU has enough oomph to turn the PC on.  When the PC is first turned on there is a momentary power spike as the PC draws maximum power for a few seconds.  Your PSU may be coming up short.  This may explain why your last PSU worked while your newer lower wattage PSU does not.

 

If you input your parts into a PSU calculator you will find that the recommended PSU wattage will be 750 watts for the entire system.

 

I recommended buying a 750w 80+ rated PSU and trying again.

 

The ryzen 5 is a very efficient CPU.  Its only 65w TDP.  Most of that power draw is coming from the 3060 ti GPU and the rest of your stuff. 

 

MSI seemed to be the nicest PSU calculator i could find.   There used to be one called extremeoutervision which was everyone's favorite but it is no more.

 

https://www.msi.com/power-supply-calculator

 

This calculator didn't have your ryzen 5 4500 so just input the 5500 instead.  It has the same 65w TDP.  See for yourself.

Ok now im confused people have been telling me it was fine but now im being told its not. I will get a replacement soon and will update whetger its fixed or not.

[Matacks]

Yes.  Go ahead and order the PSU.  Its not recommended to go too cheap when in comes to the PSU.   So order a good one.

[Gamerz_X90]

On 2/21/2025 at 2:53 AM, Matacks said:

Yes.  Go ahead and order the PSU.  Its not recommended to go too cheap when in comes to the PSU.   So order a good one.

Ok so I just recieved my replacement and it boots! the only problem is that now i get stuck on a white VGA light. Any fixes for this? @Matacks

[Gamerz_X90]

ok new thing, i decided to check my cpu as people i read have said fixed it, to then see it come off WITH my cooler. OOPS! probably explains the new cpu detected screen i got in the pre-build test will test in a sec

[Gamerz_X90]

So i just tested (yes i know i procrastinate a lot) and we are still at the exact same spot. My wallet is praying it's not the gpu but my hopes arent high anymore.

[Matacks]

No way.   You bought a good 750watt and it's still kaput?  Which one did you get?

 

Firstly check the usualy suspects.  Boot into  bios.  Check your boot order.

All of this changing of the PSU may have reset cmos.

 

Ensure the storage drive is set to boot.

If you turning on and it displays bios than it is a good indicator that the overall system and it's parts are ok.  You will be able to see everything in the bios.  CPU, RAM and GPU.

 

If changing the boot order doesn't work you may want to look at memory issues.  Run memtest86 off a thumbdrive. 

 

 

[Matacks]

On 2/26/2025 at 6:55 AM, Gamerz_X90 said:

Ok so I just recieved my replacement and it boots! the only problem is that now i get stuck on a white VGA light. Any fixes for this? @Matacks

I'm not sure what a white VGA light is.

[Gamerz_X90]

1 hour ago, Matacks said:

I'm not sure what a white VGA light is.

It usually means GPU but im retesting it out of the case i just flashed bios in case tht was an issue

 

1 hour ago, Matacks said:

Firstly check the usualy suspects.  Boot into  bios.  Check your boot order.

 

 

Uhhh how am i doing that without it getting past POST

[Gamerz_X90]

Just now, Gamerz_X90 said:

 

Also it's an MSI MAG A750GL

[Gamerz_X90]

Ok no post still. I did notice that the gpu rgb and the fans werent on. My wallet is praying here

[Matacks]

Is the PSU turned on?

[Gamerz_X90]

4 hours ago, Matacks said:

Is the PSU turned on?

yes obviously i have done some more testing with a backup gpu i had and have concluded it is the gpu. I can get a full refund and then get a similar one and then my issue will be fixed. Thank you for your help!