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Help.......setting up net with crossover

I am trying to use a older pc as a backup solution for my main rig.  My router in a different room and everything is connected wifi.  I figured i could just use a crossover to enable fast backups vs doing it over wifi.  I have 128 bit on both pcs.  file sharing is on.  password protected is off.  Yet each time i try to access using file explorer, i am prompted for a user name and password.  I have a MS connected acct and use the same acct on both pcs.  I use a pin code on the old pc to login and fingerprint reader on my main gaming rig.  The problem is its prompting for a "password" not a pin or fingerprint...... so i went into credential manager in the control panel......looked up my windows creds.........clicked the drop down menu........but it wont show password, even though i am the admin.......      I dont know what i am missing??  And its showing just 8 dots and may passwords are never 8 characters, so what do i do?  Is there a work around?

 

Thanks

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3 minutes ago, Longbow1 said:

I figured i could just use a crossover to enable fast backups vs doing it over wifi.

Crossover cables haven't been necessary since 10/100 Ethernet like 20 years ago. Why won't the idea die?

 

3 minutes ago, Longbow1 said:

Yet each time i try to access using file explorer, i am prompted for a user name and password.  I have a MS connected acct and use the same acct on both pcs.  I use a pin code on the old pc to login and fingerprint reader on my main gaming rig.

In order to set up PIN/bio authentication, the account needs to have a standard password of some sort (Microsoft account or locally created). So it has a password that you set at some point, probably during install.

 

3 minutes ago, Longbow1 said:

And its showing just 8 dots and may passwords are never 8 characters, so what do i do?

Sometimes they obscure the length of the password to prevent guessing based on length.

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I'd try recreating the share with no password needed, then, if it still prompts for password (some of my SMB shares still do this for some reason) just submit both as blank

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3 minutes ago, Longbow1 said:

if crossover is not needed how else would you connect 2 pcs with a cable without needing a hub/switch?  IF there is a way, please let me know.

Just use a normal cable. Auto MDI-X is used in every modern nic and means crossover cables aren't needed anymore. 

 

14 minutes ago, Longbow1 said:

I have 128 bit on both pcs. 

128bit what?

 

 

14 minutes ago, Longbow1 said:

  password protected is off. 

Often times guest access or no password access is disabled by default

 

Can the PCs ping each other?

 

Try using a local account to authentical the trasfer, or allow no password guest access.

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4 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

Just use a normal cable. Auto MDI-X is used in every modern nic and means crossover cables aren't needed anymore. 

 

128bit what?

 

 

Often times guest access or no password access is disabled by default

 

Can the PCs ping each other?

 

Try using a local account to authentical the trasfer, or allow no password guest access.

oh i didn't know that about that normal cable.  thanks.  good to know.  128 bit encryption.  yes they can ping each other and both can see the other in file explorer. 

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