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Huge difference. Using basic cheap office mouse for office like work is fine. However aside from feeling cheap they also perform rather bad gaming wise. 

Ton of good and well priced choicea nowdays. Mainly look for shape you like. 

3 minutes ago, ExtremelyPoorGamer said:

Currently using 10 bucks Logitech m90.

That lacks even thumb-buttons for back and forward. I can't imagine browsing the web without them.

Gaming mice are nice. 

5 minutes ago, ExtremelyPoorGamer said:

 

Also g502 hero or g402 Hyperion fury?

There's a compartison: https://www.rtings.com/mouse/tools/compare/logitech-g502-hero-vs-logitech-g402-hyperion-fury/1612/8325

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Huge fan of my Logi G602. Has lasted me seven years and nothing has gone wrong with it whatsoever. Quite accurate, and has 6 customizable DPI levels. Would definitely recommend. 

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Cheap vs pricey mouse has differences.

 

  • Sensor accuracy
  • Build quality
  • Whatever program it can connect to
  • Whatever features of that program

 

I can definitely see difference between my old ~22$ gaming mouse and my current 41$ (now costs 62$), sensor is more accurate and the mouse has slightly better build quality.

 

Not sure if you need better sensor, my use-case requires very good precision.

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It really depends on what kind of gamer you are and what games you play. The mice you pointed to have lots of extra buttons, so for the right kind of games where you can bind those buttons to certain actions - like MMOs - they can make a big difference, but you actually need to use them. If the games you play don't benefit from that feature, then it might be a bit of a disappointment.

 

I recently upgraded to a Roccat Kone Pro since everyone was telling me that I needed a ligher mouse, and while it's a solid mouse, I didn't find it to be a substantial improvement for me over an ancient Anker gaming mouse that weighs a ton by modern standards. I think it's actually over 200g. And even with that huge difference (the Kone Pro feels like moving around air to me) I still was largely underwhelmed.

 

With that said, I was already coming from a 1000Hz polling rate mouse, whereas the M90 is not a gaming mouse. If it uses a standard 125Hz polling rate - which is possible since I can't find any information from Logitech about its polling rate, making me assume it's not a 1000Hz mouse, then you may see a noticeable difference in responsiveness when going to a gaming mouse.

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27 minutes ago, ExtremelyPoorGamer said:

Currently using 10 bucks Logitech m90.  I am thinking about treating myself with a decent mouse and wondering if they worth it.

 

 

Also g502 hero or g402 Hyperion fury?

i really like my G502 Hero... its not the specs, its not the buttons, its mostly because its super duper responsive and mega ergonomical... it never slips, lags or otherwise misbehaves (using the second fastest default setting, the fastest is too fast for me lol) 

 

26 minutes ago, Tan3l6 said:

That lacks even thumb-buttons for back and forward. I can't imagine browsing the web without them.

? neither my g4 g5 nor g7 g8 buttons do anything  (from what i can tell) ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 

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5 minutes ago, YoungBlade said:

It really depends on what kind of gamer you are and what games you play. The mice you pointed to have lots of extra buttons, so for the right kind of games where you can bind those buttons to certain actions - like MMOs - they can make a big difference, but you actually need to use them. If the games you play don't benefit from that feature, then it might be a bit of a disappointment.

 

I recently upgraded to a Roccat Kone Pro since everyone was telling me that I needed a ligher mouse, and while it's a solid mouse, I didn't find it to be a substantial improvement for me over an ancient Anker gaming mouse that weighs a ton by modern standards. I think it's actually over 200g. And even with that huge difference (the Kone Pro feels like moving around air to me) I still was largely underwhelmed.

 

With that said, I was already coming from a 1000Hz polling rate mouse, whereas the M90 is not a gaming mouse. If it uses a standard 125Hz polling rate - which is possible since I can't find any information from Logitech about its polling rate, making me assume it's not a 1000Hz mouse, then you may see a noticeable difference in responsiveness when going to a gaming mouse.

Don't know what polling rate is but it has 1000 dpi.

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The best mouse is one which fits your hand well and is on a good mousing surface (lttstoredotcom).
Even trash tier mice tend to have good enough sensors
As for thumb buttons. That's kind of down to personal preference. 

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2 hours ago, ExtremelyPoorGamer said:

Currently using 10 bucks Logitech m90.  I am thinking about treating myself with a decent mouse and wondering if they worth it.

 

 

Also g502 hero or g402 Hyperion fury?

Yes, for gaming that isn't solitaire, the mouse makes a world of difference. With that said, anything beyond 100$ is just not worth it for casual gaming(mb wireless g502 with a dock) because there is a sea of great mice for generally much less. Zowie or Logitech for 100$-150$ is the very top, Razer is a scam.
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If you're in a super budget segment IMO the G203 is nearly untouchable. Seems like you can usually get them for close to 20 bucks and they're gonna knock the socks off any standard office mouse for the same amount of bread. I downgraded from a gen 1 G Pro Wireless to a G203 because I didn't feel like fixing my side buttons, and I liked the G203 so much I actually bought a second one even though I hate wired mice. They're light, roughly the same shape as a GPW, and they don't have one of those dumbass braided cables.

 

And if you really want wireless, drop an extra 10 and go for a G305. A bit ass-heavy with a standard alkaline battery but the battery life has been fantastic and honestly, you get used to it. If it really was a problem you could throw a lithium battery in there and it would help a little bit.

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Huge difference. Using basic cheap office mouse for office like work is fine. However aside from feeling cheap they also perform rather bad gaming wise. 

Ton of good and well priced choicea nowdays. Mainly look for shape you like. 

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15 hours ago, flibberdipper said:

If you're in a super budget segment IMO the G203 is nearly untouchable. Seems like you can usually get them for close to 20 bucks and they're gonna knock the socks off any standard office mouse for the same amount of bread. I downgraded from a gen 1 G Pro Wireless to a G203 because I didn't feel like fixing my side buttons, and I liked the G203 so much I actually bought a second one even though I hate wired mice. They're light, roughly the same shape as a GPW, and they don't have one of those dumbass braided cables.

 

And if you really want wireless, drop an extra 10 and go for a G305. A bit ass-heavy with a standard alkaline battery but the battery life has been fantastic and honestly, you get used to it. If it really was a problem you could throw a lithium battery in there and it would help a little bit.

is g203 same as g102? both look identical and i have used g102 briefly at a relative house. Also I can get g102 new or g402 Hyperion fury open box for 20 usd new.both with full warranty. 

I really like the look of g402 but i keep hearing about it double click and how it's a outdated model

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1 hour ago, ExtremelyPoorGamer said:

is g203 same as g102? both look identical and i have used g102 briefly at a relative house. Also I can get g102 new or g402 Hyperion fury open box for 20 usd new.both with full warranty. 

I really like the look of g402 but i keep hearing about it double click and how it's a outdated model

They're the same thing, they're just originally intended for different regions.

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On 1/4/2025 at 10:18 AM, flibberdipper said:

If you're in a super budget segment IMO the G203 is nearly untouchable. Seems like you can usually get them for close to 20 bucks and they're gonna knock the socks off any standard office mouse for the same amount of bread. I downgraded from a gen 1 G Pro Wireless to a G203 because I didn't feel like fixing my side buttons, and I liked the G203 so much I actually bought a second one even though I hate wired mice. They're light, roughly the same shape as a GPW, and they don't have one of those dumbass braided cables.

 

And if you really want wireless, drop an extra 10 and go for a G305. A bit ass-heavy with a standard alkaline battery but the battery life has been fantastic and honestly, you get used to it. If it really was a problem you could throw a lithium battery in there and it would help a little bit.

Bought a Logitech 203. Although 3200 dpi taking some time to adjust. The difference is night and day in gaming due to the extra button. I used button 5 for bow in Ghost of tsunami and for dodging in Spiderman remastered and it made the game a lot more fun.

 

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1 hour ago, ExtremelyPoorGamer said:

Bought a Logitech 203. Although 3200 dpi taking some time to adjust. The difference is night and day in gaming due to the extra button. I used button 5 for bow in Ghost of tsunami and for dodging in Spiderman remastered and it made the game a lot more fun.

Great! I love the G203. I used it for about 5 years before switching over to Razer Deathadder V3 Pro. Unsure if I like it more or less than the G203, but it's different.

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