£2000 pc

[Jnternal]

Can anyone lmk if this is good for the budget? It’s a little over but I don’t mind I’m willing to spend 2000 in £, I’ve looked into waiting for 5000 series as I’d like a nvidia card but not sure if it’s worth it either. https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/ Only thing I’d like to keep is the case and white theme if possible 

[Tan3l6]

1 minute ago, Jnternal said:

Can anyone lmk if this is good for the budget? It’s a little over but I don’t mind I’m willing to spend 2000 in £, I’ve looked into waiting for 5000 series as I’d like a nvidia card but not sure if it’s worth it either. https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/ Only thing I’d like to keep is the case and white theme if possible 

The Pcpartpicker link is empty?

[Jnternal]

7 minutes ago, Tan3l6 said:

The Pcpartpicker link is empty?

Works for me? https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/MWTmDj Here’s another, perhaps because I’m from the uk and a different region? Not sure 

[jaslion]

You posted a generic link not the link to your list.

 

Fyi cards are coming in february depends on you if you want to wait.

[jaslion]

1 minute ago, Jnternal said:

Works for me? https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/MWTmDj Here’s another, perhaps because I’m from the uk and a different region? Not sure 

You missed the part after /list/

[jaslion]

5 minutes ago, Jnternal said:

Works for me? https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/MWTmDj Here’s another, perhaps because I’m from the uk and a different region? Not sure 

Anyways there is a LOT of overspending on looks here and you are leavinf a ton of performance on the table. Like this thing can EASILY have a 4080 in it and a 9800x3d making it top tier gamijg if thats whatbyou are looking for.

 

then for the case you'll be over it in a week. Just buy a secondary screen if you want screen real estate. I work with heaps of people that have buyers remorse from these.

 

Psu is a niche unit that I wouldnt get due to its strange setup for cabling.

 

The ssd is dogshit btw. Low lifespan and kinda slow much better options available.

 

Whats the usecase of the pc?

[Jnternal]

8 minutes ago, jaslion said:

Anyways there is a LOT of overspending on looks here and you are leavinf a ton of performance on the table. Like this thing can EASILY have a 4080 in it and a 9800x3d making it top tier gamijg if thats whatbyou are looking for.

 

then for the case you'll be over it in a week. Just buy a secondary screen if you want screen real estate. I work with heaps of people that have buyers remorse from these.

 

Psu is a niche unit that I wouldnt get due to its strange setup for cabling.

 

The ssd is dogshit btw. Low lifespan and kinda slow much better options available.

 

Whats the usecase of the pc?

Thanks for the reply, not sure about the link. I had copied the right one but left it for a bit either way mainly just trying to future proof and play most/any triple a games at 1440p with rt if they can handle it 

[SimplyGone]

All I'll say is 1TB is not a lot of storage space these days.  you'll get 3 maybe 4 big games on that before you start running in to problems.  Also, my corsair AIO was hot garbage

[Jnternal]

8 minutes ago, SimplyChunk said:

All I'll say is 1TB is not a lot of storage space these days.  you'll get 3 maybe 4 big games on that before you start running in to problems.  Also, my corsair AIO was hot garbage

Why was the aio garbage? 

[Needfuldoer]

[ Moved to New Builds and Planning ]

[SimplyGone]

1 hour ago, Jnternal said:

Why was the aio garbage? 

it clogged within about a year

[Jnternal]

7 minutes ago, SimplyChunk said:

it clogged within about a year

Damn sucks ass

[Why_Me]

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: *AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor  (£464.99 @ Scan.co.uk) 
CPU Cooler: *Deepcool GAMMAXX AG620 ARGB 67.88 CFM CPU Cooler  (£49.00 @ Computer Orbit) 
Motherboard: *MSI MAG B650 TOMAHAWK WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard  (£169.00 @ Computer Orbit) 
Memory: *Corsair Vengeance 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  (£89.98 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: *Patriot Viper VP4300 Lite 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (£102.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Video Card: *Asus PRIME OC GeForce RTX 4070 Ti SUPER 16 GB Video Card  (£781.99 @ CCL Computers) 
Case: *Montech AIR 903 MAX ATX Mid Tower Case  (£54.98 @ Scan.co.uk) 
Power Supply: *MSI MAG A850GL PCIE5 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (£89.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Total: £1802.92
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-12-26 15:55 GMT+0000

[BahnStormer]

4 hours ago, Jnternal said:

perhaps because I’m from the uk and a different region?

no - it's because you left the unique identifier off the first list... np though... the 2nd link works

[BahnStormer]

On 12/26/2024 at 1:42 PM, SimplyChunk said:

my corsair AIO was hot garbage

I've had three..... all mine were VERY hot garbage.... 2x failed pumps (really $##tty RMA process) and the third one became horribly ineffective after less than a year, but never actually failed.... I went back to the AMD stock cooler after about a year and it was quieter and outperformed it by about 15C-20C!  

[BahnStormer]

Can I ask why you're going with the Intel i7 14th gen? This is potentially a valid use-case if you're doing lots of video editing / rendering, but really NOT for a pure gaming rig!

 

Why are some of those parts (case/GPU/case) "locked in" on your PCPP list with fixed prices? Already purchased or are you just really fixed on them or desperate for that particular case, etc?  

 

 

[BahnStormer]

I tried to keep the Hyte case and maintain the "white" aesthetic that you appear to be after.... but it's still coming in £70 more.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor  (£464.99 @ Scan.co.uk) 
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Liquid Freezer III 360 A-RGB 48.82 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  (£82.98 @ CCL Computers) 
Motherboard: ASRock X670E Steel Legend ATX AM5 Motherboard  (£220.00) 
Memory: TEAMGROUP T-Create Expert 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  (£108.56 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Samsung 990 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (£151.49 @ CCL Computers) 
Video Card: Asus TUF GAMING OC GeForce RTX 4070 Ti SUPER 16 GB Video Card  (£765.00) 
Case: HYTE Y70 Touch Infinite ATX Mid Tower Case  (£332.00) 
Power Supply: Corsair RM850 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (£118.99 @ AWD-IT) 
Total: £2244.01
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-12-26 18:00 GMT+0000

 

I can't see the X670E Steel Legend in stock right now, but I bought mine off Amazon 4 months ago for £208, so I put it as £220.

Or if you can't wait for a restock, then something like this: "MSI X670E Gaming Plus Wifi" for £213.

 

That Hyte case is very good case, but it would be easy to save >£250 and get something with very similar capabilities, thermals, etc.... and your build would then be clean under £2k.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor  (£464.99 @ Scan.co.uk) 
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Liquid Freezer III 360 A-RGB 48.82 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  (£82.98 @ CCL Computers) 
Motherboard: ASRock X670E Steel Legend ATX AM5 Motherboard  (£220.00) 
Memory: TEAMGROUP T-Create Expert 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  (£108.56 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Samsung 990 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (£151.49 @ CCL Computers) 
Video Card: Asus TUF GAMING OC GeForce RTX 4070 Ti SUPER 16 GB Video Card  (£765.00) 
Case: Montech AIR 903 MAX ATX Mid Tower Case  (£54.98 @ Scan.co.uk) 
Power Supply: Corsair RM850 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (£118.99 @ AWD-IT) 
Total: £1966.99
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-12-26 18:06 GMT+0000

 

[Jnternal]

7 hours ago, BahnStormer said:

Can I ask why you're going with the Intel i7 14th gen? This is potentially a valid use-case if you're doing lots of video editing / rendering, but really NOT for a pure gaming rig!

 

Why are some of those parts (case/GPU/case) "locked in" on your PCPP list with fixed prices? Already purchased or are you just really fixed on them or desperate for that particular case, etc?  

 

 

Mainly new to pcs just trying to build a strong pc so I’m not fully knowledgeable on what’s best for what also just a rough sketch on what I would be buying so I thought I’d ask here for some advice, but also the fixed prices were just to give me a rough idea on pricing 

[Jnternal]

6 hours ago, BahnStormer said:

I tried to keep the Hyte case and maintain the "white" aesthetic that you appear to be after.... but it's still coming in £70 more.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor  (£464.99 @ Scan.co.uk) 
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Liquid Freezer III 360 A-RGB 48.82 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  (£82.98 @ CCL Computers) 
Motherboard: ASRock X670E Steel Legend ATX AM5 Motherboard  (£220.00) 
Memory: TEAMGROUP T-Create Expert 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  (£108.56 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Samsung 990 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (£151.49 @ CCL Computers) 
Video Card: Asus TUF GAMING OC GeForce RTX 4070 Ti SUPER 16 GB Video Card  (£765.00) 
Case: HYTE Y70 Touch Infinite ATX Mid Tower Case  (£332.00) 
Power Supply: Corsair RM850 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (£118.99 @ AWD-IT) 
Total: £2244.01
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-12-26 18:00 GMT+0000

 

I can't see the X670E Steel Legend in stock right now, but I bought mine off Amazon 4 months ago for £208, so I put it as £220.

Or if you can't wait for a restock, then something like this: "MSI X670E Gaming Plus Wifi" for £213.

 

That Hyte case is very good case, but it would be easy to save >£250 and get something with very similar capabilities, thermals, etc.... and your build would then be clean under £2k.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor  (£464.99 @ Scan.co.uk) 
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Liquid Freezer III 360 A-RGB 48.82 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  (£82.98 @ CCL Computers) 
Motherboard: ASRock X670E Steel Legend ATX AM5 Motherboard  (£220.00) 
Memory: TEAMGROUP T-Create Expert 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  (£108.56 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Samsung 990 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (£151.49 @ CCL Computers) 
Video Card: Asus TUF GAMING OC GeForce RTX 4070 Ti SUPER 16 GB Video Card  (£765.00) 
Case: Montech AIR 903 MAX ATX Mid Tower Case  (£54.98 @ Scan.co.uk) 
Power Supply: Corsair RM850 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (£118.99 @ AWD-IT) 
Total: £1966.99
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-12-26 18:06 GMT+0000

 

Thank you for these recommendations tho I did actually change out the psu for the one you had put in there since reading these comments, but I do like the list. I might squeeze the budget just to get that case tho as I’m a fan of it. One last thing tho is it really worth getting an amd cpu? I’ve been a fan of intel but I know amd have recently been pretty good for gaming would it be worth picking then over intel tho just for that? 

[BahnStormer]

AMD all the way for a pure gaming or pure workstation build!

 

 

For the last 3 or 4 years
AMD have been the top pick for anything gaming related.

The only point where Intel have been really competitive have been the very low end of the budgets (i3 mostly), but then you'll never be able to upgrade with confidence if the original board was also budget spec.

Intel WERE okay for dual role CPU's (decent video editing / decent gaming), but you pay for it in just about every other way:

• Price for performance
• No upgrade path on the LGA1700 platform AM5 will be taking new CPU's for the next 3 years at least.
• Expensive motherboard and RAM required on LGA170
• Thermals (high heat into the room and requires MASSIVE AIO)
• Power (253W minimum, 400W+ required to achieve full performance)
• High failure rate after 6 months or so, especially K-skew 13/14th gen
• Terrible support
  • took them 4 months to acknowledge and provide a BIOS fix to stop the damage
  • damage irreversible if it has started
  • known oxidation from 2023 models
  • poor RMA support (huge delays and arbitrary rejections)
  • won't be clear if the BIOS and microcode fixes have actually stopped the damage for a few more months

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Jnternal]

8 hours ago, BahnStormer said:

AMD all the way for a pure gaming or pure workstation build!

 

 

For the last 3 or 4 years
AMD have been the top pick for anything gaming related.

The only point where Intel have been really competitive have been the very low end of the budgets (i3 mostly), but then you'll never be able to upgrade with confidence if the original board was also budget spec.

Intel WERE okay for dual role CPU's (decent video editing / decent gaming), but you pay for it in just about every other way:

• Price for performance
• No upgrade path on the LGA1700 platform AM5 will be taking new CPU's for the next 3 years at least.
• Expensive motherboard and RAM required on LGA170
• Thermals (high heat into the room and requires MASSIVE AIO)
• Power (253W minimum, 400W+ required to achieve full performance)
• High failure rate after 6 months or so, especially K-skew 13/14th gen
• Terrible support
  • took them 4 months to acknowledge and provide a BIOS fix to stop the damage
  • damage irreversible if it has started
  • known oxidation from 2023 models
  • poor RMA support (huge delays and arbitrary rejections)
  • won't be clear if the BIOS and microcode fixes have actually stopped the damage for a few more months

 

 

 

 

 

 

Would you know a good cpu to pair with the say 4070 ti super or 4080 super for gaming? Looking into picking the 4080 super the if I can find a good price on it. 

[BahnStormer]

The reason the FAQ on this channel says you need to say the resolution, refresh rate and games that you're playing is that it depends massively on the screen you are using and which games you are playing - this will enable people to give you really targeted advice.

 

e.g. I have a 5800X3D + RTX4080S on a 4K 120Hz TV that is not CPU limited as it's mostly being used mostly for Minecraft, "eye-candy" single player games and even when it's being used for first person shooters like Fortnite, we're only aiming for 120fps.... but then I have a 7800X3D + 3080Ti that IS CPU limited as I'm playing competitive shooters with low graphics settings and a 1440P 360Hz QDOLED screen.... yes, it's normally pushing 200-500fps (varies per game), but it's the CPU that is the limit in the games where I'm "only" getting 200fps.

 

General guide on the AMD AM5's:

 

7500F/7600/7600X: recommendations vary as to where the price is in each market, but they are all great entry level chips and are okay to pair with even a RTX4080S if you're doing 4K single player gaming on a 120Hz 4K TV as the GPU will still be the limit in a lot of games (especially the RTX4070TiS).

 

7700/7700X are a great middle ground - the best option if your budget doesn't stretch to the top spec chips as they give 90% of the performance in most games and are normally VERY competitively priced. Similar speeds to 9700X, but only consider this if you see this at a similar price, it's a little faster, but not much at all. 

 

7800X3D/9800X3D are the best two for gaming - choose based on availability, budget, gaming needs.... they are fairly closely matched in MOST games, but 7800X3D will only boost 2 cores to 5.1Ghz (then cap the rest at 4.7Ghz), but the 9800X3D will boost all cores to around 5.5-5.7Ghz. Most games only need a few threads at max speeds, but there are SOME games that will benefit from this. The gap is sometimes only ~5%, but the 9800X3D steps ahead by 15%+ in the examples where more cores are used at full boost (not many games, but mostly productivity such as rendering/video editing, etc). I paid £320 for my 7800X3D in August, the availability was squeezed before the release of the 9800X3D, but should be back around  that price soon.

 

7900X/9900X great for a budget workstation, but not recommended for gaming at all (9700X/7700X is better than the 12 core due to it being single CCD).

 

7950X/9950X similar speed for gaming to 7700X/9700X, but a workstation beast.

 

7900X3D/7950X3D not for a pure gaming rig - you get most of the workstation benefits of the non-X3D version and most of the gaming benefits of the 7600X3D/7800X3D (with a small overhead).... impressive all-rounders, but too expensive if you only need them for gaming. 9900X3D/9950X3D are expected to have fewer compromises than these two AND the 3D V-cache.... but again mainly focussed on dual role / productivity, poor value for pure gaming.