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I found this interesting video on Youtube:

 

 

It talks about how car control and the lack of security measures that are in place to protect peoples vehicles from being hacked. Basically just attaching mobile devices into the CAN bus of a car, seems like a lot of effort but a lot of these cables are fairly exposed on vehicles as they need to run to control modules near brakes etc. Is now the right time to worry about this?

 

I think so, especially with some of the vehicles we have now which have very little manual mechanical input, some recent Volvo's, Mercedes' and Volkswagens it could even control the steering as well the more obvious things like acceleration and braking. 

 

Should we be more worried about this now?

 

I see theft being a higher priority than sabotage or assassination. What are your thoughts?

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I was expecting Watch Dogs.

 

:lol: It's not far off...

 

In fact I think the series is plugging Watchdogs.

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I was expecting Watch Dogs.

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I think on some tech show they had these 2 guys who were able to control a car from a laptop from within the car. It was pretty cool to what they could change as far as settings and stuff. 

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I want to do this and hook up a G27 Logitch wheel to my PC.

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Forget hacking, why not augment? I want to know what the parts were needed and how much code knowledge is required to make that 25$ setup the spanish dude was talking about.

 

Sounds incredibly useful to have some remote control over your car and be able to override some of the electronics remotely (i.e. I'm away from my car but someone needs to use it, remote unlock, remote start)

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:lol: It's not far off...

 

In fact I think the series is plugging Watchdogs.

its inspired by watchdogs if you got the know how anything can be hacked 

 
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Good luck hacking mine. You could hack my headunit lol, otherwise my truck has no main computer sys.

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*Looks out at his 91 benz and smiles*

 

My car doesn't even have an OBD port  :P

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I already knew about this, I'm a fellow hacker as well.

There are 10 types of people in this world, those who understand binary, and those who don't.

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Good luck hacking mine. You could hack my headunit lol, otherwise my truck has no main computer sys.

you could jump into mine and drive off with it, i leave the keys in when im home.

AAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGHHHHH!!!!

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you could jump into mine and drive off with it, i leave the keys in when im home.

I leave mine unlocked but I do take my keys but I do have extra keys on the truck so if someone found them they could get it lol.

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I already knew about this, I'm a fellow hacker as well.

What type of College classes would I have to take to learn about this stuff? Like all the circuitry and coding stuff. Anywhere I can learn online?

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If only this was available to buy, I want it 

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its inspired by watchdogs if you got the know how anything can be hacked 

 

True, just wanted thoughts on it considering the amount of control modules there are in cars nowadays.  

 

*Looks out at his 91 benz and smiles*

 

My car doesn't even have an OBD port  :P

 

Well that can be stolen with a coat hanger and a pair of snips :lol:

 

Thinking about it though, it's not going to really be that useful in theft as you would need the ignition to be in the first position to power the ECU and most modern cars have those annoying inner door skins, so it would be window smashing time haha.

 

I definitely still see some appeal for certain cars though.

 

 

What type of College classes would I have to take to learn about this stuff? Like all the circuitry and coding stuff. Anywhere I can learn online?

 

Not sure it involves study in a few different areas, Mechatronics might cover the most ground though. 

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you could jump into mine and drive off with it, i leave the keys in when im home.

am i the only one with a C4 based system with charges to a raspberry PI controlled detonator on modem and internet cables ?. hack me and basicly im dead. not sure how to deal with this doe 

 
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Forget hacking, why not augment? I want to know what the parts were needed and how much code knowledge is required to make that 25$ setup the spanish dude was talking about.

 

Sounds incredibly useful to have some remote control over your car and be able to override some of the electronics remotely (i.e. I'm away from my car but someone needs to use it, remote unlock, remote start)

 

Yeah, I can see a lot of positives to those devices. Interested in knowing what he's using as well, probably something Arduino based with a cellular module... 

 

you could jump into mine and drive off with it, i leave the keys in when im home peering through my window with a 50 cal. aimed at the back of the headrest.

 

FTFY

 

am i the only one with a C4 based system with charges to a raspberry PI controlled detonator on modem and internet cables ?. hack me and basicly im dead. not sure how to deal with this doe 

 

Imagine someone detonating your airbags as you travel down the road.  :o

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in no way am I surprised, our 2006 ford explorer has a computer controlled throttle, and it is the most fidgety thing ever. I have my 2002 ford focus zx3, and it is stick, it has manual controlled breaks, throttle, and direct wiring for everything. it is completely unhackable unless you hardwire everything in and put in a custom body control unit. so I'm completely safe from this, but that is one thing I'm still going to look for with any new car i buy, is to make sure that It doesn't have any of this shit because I saw this coming, I there is no way ill take any chance to allow someone to steal a brand new car.

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Yeah, I can see a lot of positives to those devices. Interested in knowing what he's using as well, probably something Arduino based with a cellular module... 

 

 

FTFY

 

 

Imagine someone detonating your airbags as you travel down the road.  :o

lmao that would suck

 
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What type of College classes would I have to take to learn about this stuff? Like all the circuitry and coding stuff. Anywhere I can learn online?

Well, it's all about coding first, learn languages like Python first, an excellent way to learn would Khan Academy. Then I would progress towards C and C++, also, that circulatory stuff, I learnt some in the physics courses. But if you do Computer Engineering, you'll make whatever is in that video, times 10. Computer Engineering is computer science and electrical engineering, So you're learning the coding, and the electrical, so you can make some sick ass hacks.

There are 10 types of people in this world, those who understand binary, and those who don't.

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Well, it's all about coding first, learn languages like Python first, an excellent way to learn would Khan Academy. Then I would progress towards C and C++, also, that circulatory stuff, I learnt some in the physics courses. But if you do Computer Engineering, you'll make whatever is in that video, times 10. Computer Engineering is computer science and electrical engineering, So you're learning the coding, and the electrical, so you can make some sick ass hacks.

Thanks! I already know a little bit of C# so it will be easier to learn other languages.

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I was expecting an axe would be involved.

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I was expecting Watch Dogs.

Same. lol

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its inspired by watchdogs if you got the know how anything can be hacked 

yes ofcourse, just hold x

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