5800x3D TDP ?

[Mark Kaine]

The 5800x3d has a "TDP" of 105w, so why is total package power ~135w, and what does TDP actually even mean... design? but it's using more?  (my 3600 also used ~135w "total package power" btw...)

 

 

Also CPU utility 125%? how?

 

im just curious how these numbers work and why they don't say "135w TDP" etc then? (its all stock btw, also don't mind the temps as its not thermal throttling) 

 

 

[KnoT]

Update HWInfo and then check again

[Mark Kaine]

Just now, KnoT said:

Update HWInfo and then check again

its always like that though... 

 

also if they got it wrong,  why would they get it right NOW? 

[KnoT]

Well he can always cross check it with Ryzen Master

[Hinjima]

11 minutes ago, Mark Kaine said:

The 5800x3d has a "TDP" of 105w, so why is total package power ~135w, and what does TDP actually even mean... design? but it's using more?  (my 3600 also used ~135w "total package power" btw...)

 

 

 

Also CPU utility 125%? how?

 

im just curious how these numbers work and why they don't say "135w TDP" etc then? (its all stock btw, also don't mind the temps as its not thermal throttling) 

 

 

Just do a quick google search.  TDP vs Power Draw

[Hinjima]

12 minutes ago, Mark Kaine said:

The 5800x3d has a "TDP" of 105w, so why is total package power ~135w, and what does TDP actually even mean... design? but it's using more?  (my 3600 also used ~135w "total package power" btw...)

 

 

Also CPU utility 125%? how?

 

im just curious how these numbers work and why they don't say "135w TDP" etc then? (its all stock btw, also don't mind the temps as its not thermal throttling) 

 

 

My 105w 7700x draws usually 120-130w during gaming with high CPU loads.

[Mark Kaine]

5 minutes ago, Hinjima said:

Just do a quick google search.  TDP vs Power Draw

yeah... that's what i thought... but its drawing *135w* ... is my point/ question,  so isn't "tdp" highly misleading?  

 

4 minutes ago, Hinjima said:

My 105w 7700x draws usually 120-130w during gaming with high CPU loads.

 

you see?

 

 

BTW, my 3600 did draw around 135w, but only with some heavy PBO trickery,  without PBO it was just using "65w" , just like they say on the box

 

see why i think its weird the 5800x3d is using 135 "stock"?

 

im not complaining, i just think there needs to be an explanation for that!? 

[Hinjima]

6 minutes ago, Mark Kaine said:

yeah... that's what i thought... but its drawing *135w* ... is my point/ question,  so isn't "tdp" highly misleading?  

 

 

you see?

 

 

BTW, my 3600 did draw around 135w, but only with some heavy PBO trickery,  without PBO it was just using "65w" , just like they say on the box

 

see why i think its weird the 5800x3d is using 135 "stock"?

 

im not complaining, i just think there needs to be an explanation for that!? 

It can be. Especially with turbo boost TDP / Power Draw etc.

I will say that my 7700x has PBO and Curve Optimizer on.

[freeagent]

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[HorseBattery]

 

 

A Ryzen CPU can have one or more chiplets for the cores.

 

Total package power refers to the whole thing including the I/O die, while the core power refers to only the core chiplets (CCDs).

[freeagent]

How come you aren't using the curve?

 

Your cooler is just barely holding on to that.

[Mark Kaine]

24 minutes ago, freeagent said:

How come you aren't using the curve?

 

Your cooler is just barely holding on to that.

yeah, i could but i play a lot of OW and no matter what it keeps crashing with the curve or even a slight gpu undervolt >.<