advice AMD or Intel right now?

[Katze]

With all the issues I've heard about 13th Gen intel, are they a good buy now after the patches or would AMD be better?
I usually lean more towards intel, but only because generally at the time of buy they are the better option.

 

Or wait for 14th gen? xD

 

P.S I'm just interested in the poll results xD

[Tetras]

3 minutes ago, Katze said:

are they a good buy now after the patches

You would need a crystal ball to answer that, so for me the choice is clear.

[ProtonNeutronElectron]

14th is out already just get Amd

[starsmine]

10 minutes ago, Katze said:

With all the issues I've heard about 13th Gen intel, are they a good buy now after the patches or would AMD be better?
I usually lean more towards intel, but only because generally at the time of buy they are the better option.

 

Or wait for 14th gen? xD

 

P.S I'm just interested in the poll results xD

its all raptor lakes (many of the 13th and 14th gen, some low end may be alder lake), and we dont know if the patches adequately fixed the problem. 

For new PCs , I still would not recommend Intel, until we can be confident that its been rectified. 

This recommendation will change at the end of this year. 
Arrow lake comes out end of October, and that may change what is the better buy. Zen5x3d comes out around then as well. 
With all the new agesa/windows/microcode changes, look again then to see how the rapid changes over the last quarter have shaken out as all those changes had effects on a lot. 

[BlueChinchillaEatingDorito]

1 hour ago, Katze said:

P.S I'm just interested in the poll results xD

I'm pretty sure that's a question you would know the answer to without needing to ask.

[Dedayog]

31 minutes ago, BlueChinchillaEatingDorito said:

I'm pretty sure that's a question you would know the answer to without needing to ask.

It's never been talked about in every New Builds and Planning thread

 

2 hours ago, Katze said:

With all the issues I've heard about 13th Gen intel, are they a good buy now after the patches or would AMD be better?
I usually lean more towards intel, but only because generally at the time of buy they are the better option.

 

Or wait for 14th gen? xD

 

P.S I'm just interested in the poll results xD

Are you not even in the market to build or buy?  Just for curiosity sake?

[2dfx]

3 hours ago, Katze said:

P.S I'm just interested in the poll results xD

Yeah that’s not how this works, bud. 
 

I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt and say that you’ve had your head in the sand for a bit recently.  The overwhelming sentiment currently is AMD 7th gen as it seems to have the most stability with greatest performance.  

[starsmine]

50 minutes ago, 2dfx said:

Yeah that’s not how this works, bud. 
 

I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt and say that you’ve had your head in the sand for a bit recently.  The overwhelming sentiment currently is AMD 7th gen as it seems to have the most stability with greatest performance.  

Chill bruh. 
There are plenty of tasks that intel is more performant and is stable at, we just dont know with confidence the current degradation status. It is probably fixed, we just cant say that with confidence.

[manikyath]

well.. the intel 13/14th gen issues appear to be essentially limited to the most high end SKU's, so if you werent getting some i7 something kf.. the intel stability problem is irrelevant.

 

and beyond that.. it depends? you've given no usecase, no budget, nothing. if one was always, factually, provably better than the other, the other wouldnt be on the shelf.

[Katze]

Thanks all. I assumed this was the case but just wanted to check just to make sure there was some news or something I missed 

[Katze]

1 hour ago, 2dfx said:

Yeah that’s not how this works, bud. 
 

I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt and say that you’ve had your head in the sand for a bit recently.  The overwhelming sentiment currently is AMD 7th gen as it seems to have the most stability with greatest performance.  

When you don't work in the industry anymore, and spend your time on other things when do you do research on CPU's? When you are looking to buy a new one.

[Eigenvektor]

5 hours ago, Katze said:

Or wait for 14th gen? xD

You mean 15th gen. The issues affect both 13th gen and 14th gen CPUs.

 

Intel only recently announced a microcode update (0x12B) that, as they claim, should address the root cause of the issue once it rolls out. We don't know for certain whether it does or if there are still other, undetected, issues. It will take months of testing to verify that new CPUs no longer degrade. Which means it's not yet guaranteed that 15th gen is unaffected (though Intel says it is).

 

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2024/09/intel-releases-one-last-microcode-update-to-fix-high-end-desktop-cpu-crashes/

[porina]

If it has to be literally right now, like buying today, then I'd likely go with something AM5. In a month we should know about Arrow Lake performance and it may be something to consider. I'm debating replacing a 2nd system which is more work focused, and Zen 5 looks great for that. But since I'm in no hurry I will give Arrow Lake consideration.

[freeagent]

I am waiting for Arrow Lake myself.

 

After that I am buying new hardware.

[TPCEA]

The best response was given by @manikyath. You've given us nothing related to your computing needs upon which to base our responses, so we can only speculate. Most people tend to prefer one brand over the other, so you're just getting popularity results, not useful info.