Worthwhile GPU upgrade from 2070 super?

[gooner2024]

Budget (including currency): $600

Country: US

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: single player gaming. RPGs e.g. Cyberpunk, RDR2 and RTSs e.g. Total War WH3

Other details:

• Just upgraded CPU and RAM from a 2020 build, trying to decide if it's worth upgrading GPU as well
• Finding it hard to tell if an upgrade like 4070S or 7800XT would make a meaningful difference or is waste of $
• New to building so looking for advice!!

Current Parts:

• GPU: MSI Ventus RTX 2070 Super 8G
• CPU: Ryzen 7 5800X
• RAM: 32G DDR4 3600
• MB: ASUS TUF X570
• PS: EVGA 650W GQ
• Monitor: 2560x1440 155Hz

 

[Catnip420]

Hi,

The current rumors surrounding 5th gen Nvidia cards and 8000 series AMD Gpus are getting a bit more in depth, if you can stand to wait another few months we may see those cards early 2025. AMD is expected to release more mid tier value cards, whilst Nvidia is set to continue their trend of more power for more power (lol) and more cash.

 

If you want to grab a card now, I cannot recommend AMD cards enough, they have SUCH a low market share, I have daily driven a 6800xt for 3 years and loved it, still using it now. 

 

You could buy a 7900XT used for $600 right now on ebay, or a new one for around $700 and more than double your VRAM and your performance.  Or a new 7800xt will perform incredible as well. Only caveat to AMD cards is they are a bit behind on ray tracing, but they do OK and ultimately well worth the FPS per dollar. The software and drivers are fine too.

You can expect a 7900xt to nearly double your FPS from a 2070 super from my research-of course title dependent I would expect a performance improvement of 70%+

[PDifolco]

9 minutes ago, gooner2024 said:

Budget (including currency): $600

Country: US

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: single player gaming. RPGs e.g. Cyberpunk, RDR2 and RTSs e.g. Total War WH3

Other details:

• Just upgraded CPU and RAM from a 2020 build, trying to decide if it's worth upgrading GPU as well
• Finding it hard to tell if an upgrade like 4070S or 7800XT would make a meaningful difference or is waste of $
• New to building so looking for advice!!

Current Parts:

• GPU: MSI Ventus RTX 2070 Super 8G
• CPU: Ryzen 7 5800X
• RAM: 32G DDR4 3600
• MB: ASUS TUF X570
• PS: EVGA 650W GQ
• Monitor: 2560x1440 155Hz

 

Really worthwhile upgrade imo, you'll gain at least +80% FPS and more VRAM useful at 1440P (TW WH3 is a VRAM hog indeed, and Cyberpunk if you use higher res texture mods)

Choice is between 16GB VRAM and DLSS/better RT (AMD 7000s aren't great at RT yet)

 

TPU chart :

 

[Starelementpoke]

1 hour ago, gooner2024 said:

Budget (including currency): $600

Country: US

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: single player gaming. RPGs e.g. Cyberpunk, RDR2 and RTSs e.g. Total War WH3

Other details:

• Just upgraded CPU and RAM from a 2020 build, trying to decide if it's worth upgrading GPU as well
• Finding it hard to tell if an upgrade like 4070S or 7800XT would make a meaningful difference or is waste of $
• New to building so looking for advice!!

Current Parts:

• GPU: MSI Ventus RTX 2070 Super 8G
• CPU: Ryzen 7 5800X
• RAM: 32G DDR4 3600
• MB: ASUS TUF X570
• PS: EVGA 650W GQ
• Monitor: 2560x1440 155Hz

 

Would poke around and pay attention to the used market for a 6900 XT. Been seeing alot of them going up on Hardware Swap for $400 and I'd wager you might be able to barter that price down a bit if you're patient. 

[191x7]

3 hours ago, gooner2024 said:

Budget (including currency): $600

Country: US

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: single player gaming. RPGs e.g. Cyberpunk, RDR2 and RTSs e.g. Total War WH3

Other details:

• Just upgraded CPU and RAM from a 2020 build, trying to decide if it's worth upgrading GPU as well
• Finding it hard to tell if an upgrade like 4070S or 7800XT would make a meaningful difference or is waste of $
• New to building so looking for advice!!

Current Parts:

• GPU: MSI Ventus RTX 2070 Super 8G
• CPU: Ryzen 7 5800X
• RAM: 32G DDR4 3600
• MB: ASUS TUF X570
• PS: EVGA 650W GQ
• Monitor: 2560x1440 155Hz

 

$600 upgrade?

Ryzen 5700X3D $208 + RX 6800XT $430

Or simply a Radeon 7900GRE and accept the CPU bottleneck.

[gooner2024]

On 9/4/2024 at 4:05 PM, PDifolco said:

Really worthwhile upgrade imo, you'll gain at least +80% FPS and more VRAM useful at 1440P (TW WH3 is a VRAM hog indeed, and Cyberpunk if you use higher res texture mods)

Choice is between 16GB VRAM and DLSS/better RT (AMD 7000s aren't great at RT yet)

 

TPU chart :

 

 

Thanks that comparison is really helpful! Am leaning towards the 7800XT seeing a couple in the $500 range that seems a solid option.

[Mark Kaine]

On 9/4/2024 at 9:51 PM, gooner2024 said:

Budget (including currency): $600

Country: US

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: single player gaming. RPGs e.g. Cyberpunk, RDR2 and RTSs e.g. Total War WH3

Other details:

• Just upgraded CPU and RAM from a 2020 build, trying to decide if it's worth upgrading GPU as well
• Finding it hard to tell if an upgrade like 4070S or 7800XT would make a meaningful difference or is waste of $
• New to building so looking for advice!!

Current Parts:

• GPU: MSI Ventus RTX 2070 Super 8G
• CPU: Ryzen 7 5800X
• RAM: 32G DDR4 3600
• MB: ASUS TUF X570
• PS: EVGA 650W GQ
• Monitor: 2560x1440 155Hz

 

as long you're satisfied with the performance there's no reason to upgrade,  current nvidia gpus are kinda unexciting and bad value,  amd has improved, still issue on the driver side though and i think "problem free" recording is still a no go...

Personally i have a 5800x3d and 3070 and am plenty of satisfied with the performance im getting, i see no reason to upgrade... actually im likely to sit this one out until AM6... Intel isn't an option until they *drastically* improved quality and performance (so likely never lol, they're far too deep into the rabbit hole imho) 

[Mark Kaine]

On 9/4/2024 at 9:51 PM, gooner2024 said:

2560x1440 155Hz

btw i have a 1440p monitor too... i actually think this is kind of a "bottleneck" and might be "upgrading" to a MiniLED 1080p or 4k  monitor... that way I'll gain tons of performance and don't have to deal with this weird, nonconform resolution anymore  - note, 1440p does *not* scale properly to 1080p and neither to 4k, so in all situations the latter two are a much better choice.