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I'll try out Macrium freeware version linked from majorgeeks once I receive the M.2. SSD. today/tomorrow.

5 minutes ago, Edgar R. Zakarian said:

Well this is messed up... Can't seem to "extend" C drive...

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You need to move the 666 partition to the right with some partitioning tool, like MiniTool Partition Wizard. Then you can resize the C: partition with the same tool.

Pax vobiscum

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or make an image of that 666 MB partition, delete it, enlarge the C partition to max - around 670 MB , create the 670 MB partition again, restore partition from image

 

Or clone the SSD again, but uncheck the 666 MB recovery partition and it simply won't be copied over

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47 minutes ago, Tan3l6 said:

You need to move the 666 partition to the right with some partitioning tool, like MiniTool Partition Wizard. Then you can resize the C: partition with the same tool.

Move it where??

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31 minutes ago, mariushm said:

To the end of the usable space, to the right of that black area where it says "Unallocated"

I think I figured it out xD
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Are these important for game drives? Or can i just delete them with my new favourite tool?

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The 100 MB partition is important if you want to continue to be able to boost from that drive. I would leave it. 

 

In case your new SSD fails prematurely in the following 2-3 months (it could happen with any new hardware) you would be able to simply go in bios and select to boot from your old SATA drive and send your new SSD to RMA to get a replacement.  

 

The other is pretty much windows recovery (if it crashes for some reason due to a windows update or something like that or maybe you have a nasty virus that corrupts the core executables of Windows , Windows could recover some files stored in that partition).  I never needed to use one, and usually delete them from everything except the main boot drive. (it's too little space to be worried about, i consider it a Windows "tax")

 

For the same reason, I'd suggest you don't delete Windows and Program Files and Documents and Settings (may be hidden by default) and Users folder  from your old drive yet.  Also, I'd suggest making a drive image of your old drive, but go in options and uncheck everything except the windows folders (ex if you have a Games folder or a movies folder or Steam in Program files , selectively uncheck them so they won't be included in the drive image.

 

You could also go in your old drive in Windows\Temp and remove the temporary files, and also in Users \ <your username > \ AppData\Local\ Temp \  and AppData\Roaming\Temp and delete temporary files from there before making the image.

 

in the same folders will be lots of folders for old games (configurations, saved games etc) you installed which you can delete.

 

Users and AppData folders will be hidden by default, you can go in Windows Explorer in Folder options and check show hidden and system files , or I'd suggest using a better tool like Total Commander for example.

 

Basically you can reduce your 250 GB image to around 40-50 GB and you'll have it as a backup even after you delete all the extra folders (or simply quick format that 250 GB partition)

 

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8 minutes ago, Tan3l6 said:

EFI partition is necessary for booting with GPT. Recovery partitions are good to have.

But these marked drives are NOT boot drives. They're secondary drives for steam library.

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4 minutes ago, mariushm said:

The 100 MB partition is important if you want to continue to be able to boost from that drive. I would leave it. 

 

In case your new SSD fails prematurely in the following 2-3 months (it could happen with any new hardware) you would be able to simply go in bios and select to boot from your old SATA drive and send your new SSD to RMA to get a replacement.  

 

The other is pretty much windows recovery (if it crashes for some reason due to a windows update or something like that or maybe you have a nasty virus that corrupts the core executables of Windows , Windows could recover some files stored in that partition).  I never needed to use one, and usually delete them from everything except the main boot drive. (it's too little space to be worried about, i consider it a Windows "tax")

 

For the same reason, I'd suggest you don't delete Windows and Program Files and Documents and Settings (may be hidden by default) and Users folder  from your old drive yet.  Also, I'd suggest making a drive image of your old drive, but go in options and uncheck everything except the windows folders (ex if you have a Games folder or a movies folder or Steam in Program files , selectively uncheck them so they won't be included in the drive image.

 

You could also go in your old drive in Windows\Temp and remove the temporary files, and also in Users \ <your username > \ AppData\Local\ Temp \  and AppData\Roaming\Temp and delete temporary files from there before making the image.

 

in the same folders will be lots of folders for old games (configurations, saved games etc) you installed which you can delete.

 

Users and AppData folders will be hidden by default, you can go in Windows Explorer in Folder options and check show hidden and system files , or I'd suggest using a better tool like Total Commander for example.

 

Basically you can reduce your 250 GB image to around 40-50 GB and you'll have it as a backup even after you delete all the extra folders (or simply quick format that 250 GB partition)

 

These are secondary drives for steam, not boot drives. 
I already formatted my old sata SSD with windows on it, and have it ready for steam lol, wasn't so smart, but here we are 😁
So again, are these partitions important for secondary steam drives??

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1 minute ago, Tan3l6 said:

EFI is boot partition.

Yeah that's why I'm asking. 
These are steam game library drives, nothing else on em. So I should be able to delete those EFI partitions with no issue right?

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1 minute ago, Edgar R. Zakarian said:

Yeah that's why I'm asking. 
These are steam game library drives, nothing else on em. So I should be able to delete those EFI partitions with no issue right?

If you feel lucky. I would advise backing up the drive before removing EFI, most likely the machine would not boot after removing that partition.

Don't believe what Disk Management tells you - EFI is necessary for loading OS.

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12 minutes ago, Edgar R. Zakarian said:

I already formatted my old sata SSD with windows on it, and have it ready for steam lol, wasn't so smart, but here we are 😁

Still, you should do as I said and make a barebones image of your new drive - select option to uncheck specific folders and uncheck the extra stuff you can redownload (steam, games, movies) - to have as a backup stored on another drive if the new ssd fails.

 

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11 minutes ago, Tan3l6 said:

If you feel lucky. I would advise backing up the drive before removing EFI, most likely the machine would not boot after removing that partition.

Don't believe what Disk Management tells you - EFI is necessary for loading OS.

 

3 minutes ago, mariushm said:

Still, you should do as I said and make a barebones image of your new drive - select option to uncheck specific folders and uncheck the extra stuff you can redownload (steam, games, movies) - to have as a backup stored on another drive if the new ssd fails.

 

LOLOLOL YOLO. Prob. nothing bad will happen as they have no relations to windows, just dumb steam drives.
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Yup works just fine !

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3 hours ago, Edgar R. Zakarian said:

Well this is messed up... Can't seem to "extend" C drive...

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been a long time since I've cloned a drive but usually there's an option/checkbox to auto extend as part of the clone process (that's also why I recommend boot media, I think the extension is easier outside of windows)

 

edit: never mind, didn't realize there was a 2nd page until I hit post; looks like you got it sorted now 🙂

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