Posted May 1 So i am a gamer and a video editor and i am also want to start with 3d modeling, gaming is probably the main concern. What should i buy a 14900k or a 7800X3D? (BTW i am not gonna buy either of this CPU's i am just interested to know) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 1 Intel are better for overall general use and productivity, so the 14900k would help with the video editing. For a pure gaming rig AMD is normally the way to go Apprentice Software Developer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 1 Author I think ur write but will AMD be fine in either cases? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 1 Yeah of course, but intel will have the slight edge. Apprentice Software Developer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Posted May 1 Author 4 minutes ago, Blasty Blosty said: Yeah of course, but intel will have the slight edge. Also gaming is fine in both CPU's But what should i get if the system is mostly for gaming? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 1 3 minutes ago, GreenLeaf said: Also gaming is fine in both CPU's But what should i get if the system is mostly for gaming? AMD Apprentice Software Developer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 1 22 minutes ago, GreenLeaf said: I think ur write but will AMD be fine in either cases? If you do CPU rendering for 3D applications then the Intel CPU will be faster but I'm assuming for 3D modeling you'll use your GPU most of the time so either CPU will be barely used... in which case the 7800X3D is a better gaming CPU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 1 If gaming the the top priority by far: Save money with the 7800x3d. If you want to video edit and have that be betteR? The 14900k is going to smoke the 7800x3d there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 1 29 minutes ago, GreenLeaf said: So i am a gamer and a video editor and i am also want to start with 3d modeling, gaming is probably the main concern. What should i buy a 14900k or a 7800X3D? (BTW i am not gonna bye either of this CPU's i am just interested to know) They aren't really comparable, not same category, vs a 14900K you should put a 7950X3D And I'd get the 7950X3D, 14900K is a nightmare to cool and not efficient, even if it's faster in rendering (and equivalent in gaming) System : AMD R9 7950X3D CPU/ Asus ROG STRIX X670E-E board/ 2x32GB G-Skill Trident Z Neo 6000CL30 RAM / ASUS TUF Gaming AMD Radeon RX 7900 XTX OC Edition GPU/ Phanteks P600S case / Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 cooler (with 2xArctic P12 Max fans) / 2TB WD SN850 NVme + 2TB Crucial T500 NVme + 4TB Toshiba X300 HDD / Corsair RM850x PSU Alienware AW3420DW 34" 120Hz 3440x1440p monitor / Logitech G915TKL keyboard (wireless) / Logitech G PRO X Superlight mouse / Audeze Maxwell headphones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 1 Author 1 minute ago, PDifolco said: They aren't really comparable, not same category, vs a 14900K you should put a 7950X3D And I'd get the 7950X3D, 14900K is a nightmare to cool and not efficient, even if it's faster in rendering (and equivalent in gaming) I heard about all kinds of performance issues with the 7950x3d Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 1 4 minutes ago, GreenLeaf said: I heard about all kinds of performance issues with the 7950x3d From what I've seen, worst thing that can happen is that a game plays on the non 3D cached cores and then has a 7950X non 3D performance ... Then no AM5 chip really works well with 4 RAM sticks, not especially the 7950X3D System : AMD R9 7950X3D CPU/ Asus ROG STRIX X670E-E board/ 2x32GB G-Skill Trident Z Neo 6000CL30 RAM / ASUS TUF Gaming AMD Radeon RX 7900 XTX OC Edition GPU/ Phanteks P600S case / Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 cooler (with 2xArctic P12 Max fans) / 2TB WD SN850 NVme + 2TB Crucial T500 NVme + 4TB Toshiba X300 HDD / Corsair RM850x PSU Alienware AW3420DW 34" 120Hz 3440x1440p monitor / Logitech G915TKL keyboard (wireless) / Logitech G PRO X Superlight mouse / Audeze Maxwell headphones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 1 13 minutes ago, WereCat said: I'm assuming for 3D modeling you'll use your GPU most of the time This depends on what type of 3D model software you're using. Blender and Maya are both very GPU intensive applications, but 2D programs like AutoCAD, or 3D parasolid programs like TinkerCAD, sketchup, Fusion 360 or Solidworks are very CPU bound (specifically high IPC, high frequency single core). "Put as much effort into your question as you'd expect someone to give in an answer"- @Princess Luna Make sure to Quote posts or tag the person with @[username] so they know you responded to them! RGB Build Post 2019 --- Rainbow 2020 --- Velka 5 V2.0 Build 2021 Purple Build Post --- Blue Build Post --- Blue Build Post 2018 --- Project ITNOS CPU AMD R7 7800X3D Motherboard Asrock B650E Taichi Lite RAM Corsair Vengeance RGB 32GB 5200mhz GPU ASUS RTX4080 STRIX Case Fractal Torrent Storage Samsung 980Pro 2TB, Crucial P3 Plus 4TB x2, PSU Corsair RM1000x Cooling Deepcool AK620 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 1 Author 1 minute ago, TVwazhere said: This depends on what type of 3D model software you're using. Blender and Maya are both very GPU intensive applications, but 2D programs like AutoCAD, or 3D parasolid programs like TinkerCAD, sketchup, Fusion 360 or Solidworks are very CPU bound (specifically high IPC, high frequency single core). Blender Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 1 1 hour ago, GreenLeaf said: Blender You should be fine with either CPU then. I'm just bought the 7800x3D and I'm using Inventor (another Parasolid program that prefers high IPC) and it performs amazingly. I also dabble loosely in video editing with premier, but currently I'm using the CUDA cores on the RTX 4080 to render. "Put as much effort into your question as you'd expect someone to give in an answer"- @Princess Luna Make sure to Quote posts or tag the person with @[username] so they know you responded to them! RGB Build Post 2019 --- Rainbow 2020 --- Velka 5 V2.0 Build 2021 Purple Build Post --- Blue Build Post --- Blue Build Post 2018 --- Project ITNOS CPU AMD R7 7800X3D Motherboard Asrock B650E Taichi Lite RAM Corsair Vengeance RGB 32GB 5200mhz GPU ASUS RTX4080 STRIX Case Fractal Torrent Storage Samsung 980Pro 2TB, Crucial P3 Plus 4TB x2, PSU Corsair RM1000x Cooling Deepcool AK620 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 1 Author 7 minutes ago, TVwazhere said: You should be fine with either CPU then. I'm just bought the 7800x3D and I'm using Inventor (another Parasolid program that prefers high IPC) and it performs amazingly. I also dabble loosely in video editing with premier, but currently I'm using the CUDA cores on the RTX 4080 to render. Yeah I probably will go 5090 after it's release Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 1 1 hour ago, GreenLeaf said: Blender 14900k will soar high past that, almost halving the time. Skimming over the rest of your post 7800X3D will be best if you're mainly gaming. Though the 14700k is around the same price as the 7800X3D and about the same in the games where the extra cache isn't favoured as heavily and performs a lot better in blender Message me on discord (bread8669) for more help Current parts list: CPU: R5 5600 CPU Cooler: Stock Mobo: Asrock B550M-ITX/ac RAM: Vengeance LPX 2x8GB 3200mhz Cl16 SSD: P5 Plus 500GB Secondary SSD: Kingston A400 960GB GPU: MSI RTX 3060 Gaming X Fans: 1x Noctua NF-P12 Redux, 1x Arctic P12, 1x Corsair LL120 PSU: NZXT SP-650M SFX-L PSU from H1 Monitor: Samsung WQHD 34 inch and 43 inch TV Mouse: Logitech G203 Keyboard: Rii membrane keyboard Damn this space can fit a 4090 (just kidding) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 1 Author 6 minutes ago, filpo said: 14900k will soar high past that, almost halving the time. Skimming over the rest of your post 7800X3D will be best if you're mainly gaming. Though the 14700k is around the same price as the 7800X3D and about the same in the games where the extra cache isn't favoured as heavily and performs a lot better in blender But the main concern is gaming so 7800x3D for life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 1 2 minutes ago, GreenLeaf said: But the main concern is gaming so 7800x3D for life if you want a good all round the 14700k will give a good experience, 7800X3D wins in essentially every single game (bar a few games which favour intel and its higher clocks) What games do you play? Message me on discord (bread8669) for more help Current parts list: CPU: R5 5600 CPU Cooler: Stock Mobo: Asrock B550M-ITX/ac RAM: Vengeance LPX 2x8GB 3200mhz Cl16 SSD: P5 Plus 500GB Secondary SSD: Kingston A400 960GB GPU: MSI RTX 3060 Gaming X Fans: 1x Noctua NF-P12 Redux, 1x Arctic P12, 1x Corsair LL120 PSU: NZXT SP-650M SFX-L PSU from H1 Monitor: Samsung WQHD 34 inch and 43 inch TV Mouse: Logitech G203 Keyboard: Rii membrane keyboard Damn this space can fit a 4090 (just kidding) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 1 Author 6 minutes ago, filpo said: if you want a good all round the 14700k will give a good experience, 7800X3D wins in essentially every single game (bar a few games which favour intel and its higher clocks) What games do you play? Minecraft, Hogwarts legacy, cs2 and i can't but in my new systen i will play forza and maybe i will try halo infinite What about upgrade path? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 1 Just now, GreenLeaf said: What about upgrade path? Upgrade path definitely AM5 is better Just now, GreenLeaf said: Minecraft if you're using shaders then cpu won't matter too much for this game, if you're using a lot of mods without shaders then a 14700k would be better for minecraft (but 7800X3D isn't bad for it) 2 minutes ago, GreenLeaf said: Hogwarts legacy they're basically identical for performance (7800X3D uses about 20W less though 2 minutes ago, GreenLeaf said: forza Either will be great for this game, forza horizon 5 is sooo optimized 3 minutes ago, GreenLeaf said: cs2 7800X3D will be better for this 5 minutes ago, GreenLeaf said: halo infinite basically identical Message me on discord (bread8669) for more help Current parts list: CPU: R5 5600 CPU Cooler: Stock Mobo: Asrock B550M-ITX/ac RAM: Vengeance LPX 2x8GB 3200mhz Cl16 SSD: P5 Plus 500GB Secondary SSD: Kingston A400 960GB GPU: MSI RTX 3060 Gaming X Fans: 1x Noctua NF-P12 Redux, 1x Arctic P12, 1x Corsair LL120 PSU: NZXT SP-650M SFX-L PSU from H1 Monitor: Samsung WQHD 34 inch and 43 inch TV Mouse: Logitech G203 Keyboard: Rii membrane keyboard Damn this space can fit a 4090 (just kidding) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 1 Author 7 minutes ago, filpo said: Upgrade path definitely AM5 is better if you're using shaders then cpu won't matter too much for this game, if you're using a lot of mods without shaders then a 14700k would be better for minecraft (but 7800X3D isn't bad for it) they're basically identical for performance (7800X3D uses about 20W less though Either will be great for this game, forza horizon 5 is sooo optimized 7800X3D will be better for this basically identical I think intel is better for content creation too right? Maybe 7950X3D will be the winner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 1 6 minutes ago, GreenLeaf said: think intel is better for content creation too right? yes 7 minutes ago, GreenLeaf said: Maybe 7950X3D will be the winner If you're willing to spend the money then yes Message me on discord (bread8669) for more help Current parts list: CPU: R5 5600 CPU Cooler: Stock Mobo: Asrock B550M-ITX/ac RAM: Vengeance LPX 2x8GB 3200mhz Cl16 SSD: P5 Plus 500GB Secondary SSD: Kingston A400 960GB GPU: MSI RTX 3060 Gaming X Fans: 1x Noctua NF-P12 Redux, 1x Arctic P12, 1x Corsair LL120 PSU: NZXT SP-650M SFX-L PSU from H1 Monitor: Samsung WQHD 34 inch and 43 inch TV Mouse: Logitech G203 Keyboard: Rii membrane keyboard Damn this space can fit a 4090 (just kidding) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 1 Author Just now, filpo said: yes If you're willing to spend the money then yes I have a budget of like 5000 USD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 1 2 minutes ago, GreenLeaf said: I have a budget of like 5000 USD then definitely you don't even need to spend more than $2500 (though 4090 is quite bad value, 4080 super is better for gaming and productivity, 7900 XTX if just gaming and not using the gpu for productivity, since you're 3D modelling which uses the GPU the 4080 super is the one) PCPartPicker Part List CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 7950X3D 4.2 GHz 16-Core Processor ($582.72 @ Amazon) CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Liquid Freezer III 56.3 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($116.99 @ Amazon) Motherboard: MSI X670E GAMING PLUS WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard ($229.99 @ Amazon) Memory: *Silicon Power XPOWER Zenith Gaming 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory ($97.97 @ Amazon) Storage: *Acer Predator GM7000 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($134.99 @ Amazon) Video Card: *Asus TUF GAMING GeForce RTX 4080 SUPER 16 GB Video Card ($999.99 @ ASUS) Case: Montech AIR 903 BASE ATX Mid Tower Case ($65.00 @ B&H) Power Supply: be quiet! Pure Power 12 M 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($129.90 @ Amazon) Case Fan: Lian Li UNI FAN P28 92 CFM 120 mm Fans 3-Pack ($56.90 @ Amazon) Total: $2414.45 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available *Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-05-01 14:47 EDT-0400 Message me on discord (bread8669) for more help Current parts list: CPU: R5 5600 CPU Cooler: Stock Mobo: Asrock B550M-ITX/ac RAM: Vengeance LPX 2x8GB 3200mhz Cl16 SSD: P5 Plus 500GB Secondary SSD: Kingston A400 960GB GPU: MSI RTX 3060 Gaming X Fans: 1x Noctua NF-P12 Redux, 1x Arctic P12, 1x Corsair LL120 PSU: NZXT SP-650M SFX-L PSU from H1 Monitor: Samsung WQHD 34 inch and 43 inch TV Mouse: Logitech G203 Keyboard: Rii membrane keyboard Damn this space can fit a 4090 (just kidding) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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