Cheapest feasible 4k PC? (upscaling focused)

[Aereldor]

Budget (including currency): $1200 give or take. Slightly flexible

Country: USA

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: BG3, Jedi Survivor, Horizon Forbidden West, Alan Wake 2, 

Other details (4k 120 with upscaling and FG)

 

Making another post about this since the situation's changed. 

 

I have a Flow x13 laptop with an XG Mobile GPU - RX 6850M XT, identical to a desktop 6700xt. 

 

Even used, it'll fetch me $900, so I'm planning on replacing it with a PC.

 

I have a 4k 120Hz OLED TV that I use as my monitor, because I got it for $200 new through a pricing error, and want to make the most of it.

 

I also need it to be as small as possible - currently considering the Fractal Ridge. I live in a tiny NYC studio apartment. 

 

At what poing is a GPU simply too weak for 4k? I'm was considering the RTX 4070 Ti Super when it was on sale for $750, but now that it isn't, I'm seeing a 4070 Super for $575 and that looks more tempting, especially since I plan on using DLSS Performance+medium settings (high textures), but 12GB of VRAM in 2024 is worrying. Is it enough? An upgrade to a 4070 Ti Super is another $200

 

Here's my build so far. All Amazon because I have their credit card and get 5% back and easy returns.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-12400F 2.5 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($132.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: ASRock Z690M-ITX/ax Mini ITX LGA1700 Motherboard  ($139.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: TEAMGROUP T-Create Expert 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory  ($55.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Crucial P3 Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($117.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: Zotac Twin Edge GeForce RTX 4070 SUPER 12 GB Video Card  ($589.99 @ Amazon) 
Case: Fractal Design Ridge PCIe 4.0 Mini ITX Tower Case  ($145.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS SGX (2021) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular SFX Power Supply  ($111.91 @ Amazon) 
Total: $1294.85
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-04-23 00:05 EDT-0400

 

[SorryBella]

I mean considering you are aiming to use it with scaling, it could work. But yeah you cant dodge texture demand for VRAM, 12 could be limiting on PS Studio ported title, but atleast for now theyre not that big of a deal if youre missing them. Going for optimized setting is still going to set us below 12GB of VRAM demand, and sometimes you straight up cant tell the difference. Linked below is Hardware Unboxed's Game Optimization Guide that outlines these examples in games. Most of the time, these intuitively work the same on other titles, especially with settings pertaining to Ambient Occlusion, Grass/Environment Quality, and others.

 

[Aereldor]

33 minutes ago, SorryBella said:

I mean considering you are aiming to use it with scaling, it could work. But yeah you cant dodge texture demand for VRAM, 12 could be limiting on PS Studio ported title, but atleast for now theyre not that big of a deal if youre missing them. Going for optimized setting is still going to set us below 12GB of VRAM demand, and sometimes you straight up cant tell the difference. Linked below is Hardware Unboxed's Game Optimization Guide that outlines these examples in games. Most of the time, these intuitively work the same on other titles, especially with settings pertaining to Ambient Occlusion, Grass/Environment Quality, and others.

Yeah, I'm well acquainted with optimising settings, but with VRAM usage trending upwards I don't want to be stuck with what's barely enough right now, 12GB doesn't seem futureproof at all, I have 12GB right now and routinely max it out, and I don't even use gimmicky ultra settings.

 

I just feel angry that NVidia's entire lineup seems to be driving me towards the 4070 Ti Super by gimping the VRAM on previous cards. I'd like to buy an AMD gpu - hell it's the reason I have one now - but FSR just sucks so hard. 

 

Is 12GB really enough? 

[Somerandomtechyboi]

what about a used 3090?

those should be around 4070s pricing afaik and have double the vram though theyre alot more power hungry

[filpo]

6 hours ago, Aereldor said:

Budget (including currency): $1200 give or take. Slightly flexible

Country: USA

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: BG3, Jedi Survivor, Horizon Forbidden West, Alan Wake 2, 

Other details (4k 120 with upscaling and FG)

 

Making another post about this since the situation's changed. 

 

I have a Flow x13 laptop with an XG Mobile GPU - RX 6850M XT, identical to a desktop 6700xt. 

 

Even used, it'll fetch me $900, so I'm planning on replacing it with a PC.

 

I have a 4k 120Hz OLED TV that I use as my monitor, because I got it for $200 new through a pricing error, and want to make the most of it.

 

I also need it to be as small as possible - currently considering the Fractal Ridge. I live in a tiny NYC studio apartment. 

 

At what poing is a GPU simply too weak for 4k? I'm was considering the RTX 4070 Ti Super when it was on sale for $750, but now that it isn't, I'm seeing a 4070 Super for $575 and that looks more tempting, especially since I plan on using DLSS Performance+medium settings (high textures), but 12GB of VRAM in 2024 is worrying. Is it enough? An upgrade to a 4070 Ti Super is another $200

 

Here's my build so far. All Amazon because I have their credit card and get 5% back and easy returns.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-12400F 2.5 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($132.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: ASRock Z690M-ITX/ax Mini ITX LGA1700 Motherboard  ($139.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: TEAMGROUP T-Create Expert 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory  ($55.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Crucial P3 Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($117.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: Zotac Twin Edge GeForce RTX 4070 SUPER 12 GB Video Card  ($589.99 @ Amazon) 
Case: Fractal Design Ridge PCIe 4.0 Mini ITX Tower Case  ($145.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS SGX (2021) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular SFX Power Supply  ($111.91 @ Amazon) 
Total: $1294.85
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-04-23 00:05 EDT-0400

 

try this

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-12400F 2.5 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($132.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: ASRock Z690M-ITX/ax Mini ITX LGA1700 Motherboard  ($134.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Silicon Power GAMING 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($52.97 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Leven JPS800 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($104.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: Zotac GAMING Trinity OC GeForce RTX 4070 Ti 12 GB Video Card  ($659.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Fractal Design Ridge PCIe 4.0 Mini ITX Tower Case  ($136.98 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: Corsair SF850L 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular SFX Power Supply  ($129.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $1352.90
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-04-23 06:24 EDT-0400

[Aereldor]

6 hours ago, filpo said:

try this

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-12400F 2.5 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($132.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: ASRock Z690M-ITX/ax Mini ITX LGA1700 Motherboard  ($134.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Silicon Power GAMING 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($52.97 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Leven JPS800 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($104.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: Zotac GAMING Trinity OC GeForce RTX 4070 Ti 12 GB Video Card  ($659.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Fractal Design Ridge PCIe 4.0 Mini ITX Tower Case  ($136.98 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: Corsair SF850L 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular SFX Power Supply  ($129.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $1352.90
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-04-23 06:24 EDT-0400

Essentially what I have except I'm not touching that SSD lol, just a little concerned about the 4070 Ti, now a $660 card with 12GB of VRAM... 

[filpo]

18 minutes ago, Aereldor said:

Essentially what I have except I'm not touching that SSD lol, just a little concerned about the 4070 Ti, now a $660 card with 12GB of VRAM... 

4070 super isn’t much cheaper and the 4070 ti is 7% better. If you want more vram then get an amd card, 7900 xt springs to mind

 

20 minutes ago, Aereldor said:

except I'm not touching that SSD

P3 plus is not better