PC Build with Rtx 4070super Opinions Needed

[MrBigD1409]

Budget (including currency): 1400 EURO

Country: ITALY

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: general gaming at 1440pOther details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): so im selling my current pc for 1400 euros and making a new pc with a rtx 4070super and a ryzen 5 7600x, i came up with this build today and needed someones opinion on if its good or not xD
CASE
RAM
CPU
MOBO
AIO
NVME
PSU
GPU Rtx 4070super 629 euros, total PC Build around 1460 euros

[Blasty Blosty]

7 minutes ago, MrBigD1409 said:

Budget (including currency): 1400 EURO

Country: ITALY

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: general gaming at 1440pOther details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): so im selling my current pc for 1400 euros and making a new pc with a rtx 4070super and a ryzen 5 7600x, i came up with this build today and needed someones opinion on if its good or not xD
CASE
RAM
CPU
MOBO
AIO
NVME
PSU
GPU Rtx 4070super 629 euros, total PC Build around 1460 euros

Did you forget to fill the details?

[MrBigD1409]

what details? if you click on the case ram ecc it opens up a link xD

[kitnoman]

If you don't normally turn on raytracing then you can go with an AMD GPU and adjust the few components so that you can max your CPU as well. 7900gre should be close and on par with 4070s.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor  (€400.00 @ Amazon Italia) 
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  (€42.90 @ Amazon Italia) 
Motherboard: MSI PRO B650M-P Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard  (€135.79 @ Amazon Italia) 
Memory: TEAMGROUP T-Force Vulcan 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL38 Memory  (€99.74 @ Amazon Italia) 
Storage: Silicon Power UD90 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (€74.98 @ Amazon Italia) 
Video Card: PowerColor Fighter OC Radeon RX 7900 GRE 16 GB Video Card  (€594.04 @ Amazon Italia) 
Case: Zalman S2 ATX Mid Tower Case  (€45.46 @ Amazon Italia) 
Power Supply: Asus Prime AP-750G 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€92.43 @ Amazon Italia) 
Total: €1485.34
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-04-10 16:12 CEST+0200

[Agall]

32 minutes ago, MrBigD1409 said:

Budget (including currency): 1400 EURO

Country: ITALY

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: general gaming at 1440pOther details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): so im selling my current pc for 1400 euros and making a new pc with a rtx 4070super and a ryzen 5 7600x, i came up with this build today and needed someones opinion on if its good or not xD
CASE
RAM
CPU
MOBO
AIO
NVME
PSU
GPU Rtx 4070super 629 euros, total PC Build around 1460 euros

It depends on the games you're actually playing. 3D v-cache provides a dramatically more stable framerate, especially in multiplayer games. Its something most benchmarkers don't cover because its hard to control for, but HWUB sort of did it recently.

 

I'd try to jump to a 7700x or 7800x3D. Ray tracing is very CPU heavy, where a 7600x might not cover it in 2024. Without ray tracing, sure, but I imagine that's part of your goals if you're going for a 4070S. 

 

Ray tracing aside, the 7800X3D/XT (7800x^2) is a great setup overall that can fall in that price category.

[MrBigD1409]

6 minutes ago, kitnoman said:

If you don't normally turn on raytracing then you can go with an AMD GPU and adjust the few components so that you can max your CPU as well. 7900gre should be close and on par with 4070s.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor  (€400.00 @ Amazon Italia) 
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  (€42.90 @ Amazon Italia) 
Motherboard: MSI PRO B650M-P Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard  (€135.79 @ Amazon Italia) 
Memory: TEAMGROUP T-Force Vulcan 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL38 Memory  (€99.74 @ Amazon Italia) 
Storage: Silicon Power UD90 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (€74.98 @ Amazon Italia) 
Video Card: PowerColor Fighter OC Radeon RX 7900 GRE 16 GB Video Card  (€594.04 @ Amazon Italia) 
Case: Zalman S2 ATX Mid Tower Case  (€45.46 @ Amazon Italia) 
Power Supply: Asus Prime AP-750G 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€92.43 @ Amazon Italia) 
Total: €1485.34
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-04-10 16:12 CEST+0200

thanks for the build but as for amd GPU ive had bad experiences with them and for RTX id like to have that window open in the future since the 4070super just released i can go with it for a long time xD, as for the case how come that choice isnt the one i posted better since it has 4 fans of 140mm, i understand the budget cuts to fit in the 7800x3d xD

[MrBigD1409]

2 minutes ago, Agall said:

It depends on the games you're actually playing. 3D v-cache provides a dramatically more stable framerate, especially in multiplayer games. Its something most benchmarkers don't cover because its hard to control for, but HWUB sort of did it recently.

 

I'd try to jump to a 7700x or 7800x3D. Ray tracing is very CPU heavy, where a 7600x might not cover it in 2024. Without ray tracing, sure, but I imagine that's part of your goals if you're going for a 4070S. 

 

Ray tracing aside, the 7800X3D/XT (7800x^2) is a great setup overall that can fall in that price category.

honeslty ive never even used RTX in my life if i use it would be with some games that are not heavy load  , only concern with getting a 7700x or 7800x3d is the budget cuts with the other parts and getting some "low end" parts 

[Agall]

1 minute ago, MrBigD1409 said:

honeslty ive never even used RTX in my life if i use it would be with some games that are not heavy load  , only concern with getting a 7700x or 7800x3d is the budget cuts with the other parts and getting some "low end" parts 

That's where the discussion of what games you actually play comes in. In the case of a 4070 and 7800x3D vs 4070S and 7600x, the difference could end up being substantial. Having the 4070S doesn't matter if you're only getting 60-80% utilization from a CPU limitation versus 90-100% with 3D v-cache on a 4070, as an example.

[MrBigD1409]

1 minute ago, Agall said:

That's where the discussion of what games you actually play comes in. In the case of a 4070 and 7800x3D vs 4070S and 7600x, the difference could end up being substantial. Having the 4070S doesn't matter if you're only getting 60-80% utilization from a CPU limitation versus 90-100% with 3D v-cache on a 4070, as an example.

most of the times im playing some apex legends, valorant, overwatch and some JRPGs like eyuden chronicles

[Agall]

Just now, MrBigD1409 said:

most of the times im playing some apex legends, valorant, overwatch and some JRPGs like eyuden chronicles

AKA, mostly multiplayer games that negotiate to a server.

 

I'd definitely snag a 7800x3D and fill the budget with the GPU. Whether that's an RTX 4070 or RX 7800 XT. I'd probably just stick to the RX 7800 XT since RT isn't a priority for you. They're comparably cheaper than a 4070S, so you should come out close to even making that change.

[PDifolco]

39 minutes ago, MrBigD1409 said:

most of the times im playing some apex legends, valorant, overwatch and some JRPGs like eyuden chronicles

Then you really need a better CPU (like the 7800X3D) 

With a 7600  you'll be significantly CPU bottlenecked, making the additional GPU power irrelevant

[Somerandomtechyboi]

1 hour ago, kitnoman said:

If you don't normally turn on raytracing then you can go with an AMD GPU and adjust the few components so that you can max your CPU as well. 7900gre should be close and on par with 4070s.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor  (€400.00 @ Amazon Italia) 
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  (€42.90 @ Amazon Italia) 
Motherboard: MSI PRO B650M-P Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard  (€135.79 @ Amazon Italia) 
Memory: TEAMGROUP T-Force Vulcan 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL38 Memory  (€99.74 @ Amazon Italia) 
Storage: Silicon Power UD90 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (€74.98 @ Amazon Italia) 
Video Card: PowerColor Fighter OC Radeon RX 7900 GRE 16 GB Video Card  (€594.04 @ Amazon Italia) 
Case: Zalman S2 ATX Mid Tower Case  (€45.46 @ Amazon Italia) 
Power Supply: Asus Prime AP-750G 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€92.43 @ Amazon Italia) 
Total: €1485.34
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-04-10 16:12 CEST+0200

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some slight upgrades and cost cuts

 

ps120se is a little better and for whatever reason its a little cheaper so why not

 

worth the 13€ to get a much better board

 

swapped ssd for a dram gen 3 and its also cheaper

 

abit better case, for an atx case theres the forge 100m

 

cut cost on the psu if its only an 8 year warranty, c750 is 18€ more with a 10 year warranty but thats a pretty steep price increase so id rather just cut cost, but with the original psu this build would be about 2€ over