Scanning and Repairing on startup

[Rebel836]

So I know this problem happens a lot and I've been browsing a lot of "solutions" with no success thus far.

 

I have taken several steps to try to troubleshoot and the information I get back has been giving mixed results.

 

As seen above, chkdsk does in fact find errors detected and my drive is marked as dirty, but every time I try to restart, it does the repair but the errors do not go away.

 

Errors are also found in the drive properties. Repairing and restarting here yields the same result as before.

 

Crystaldisk shows my drive as healthy

 

Samsung Magician also shows my drive as healthy and running the latest firmware.

 

As for what has caused the problems, I have had a few instances of unsafe shutdowns due to blown breakers and I have had some game crashes lately that result in the game as well as any running applications closing and putting me back at the desktop. So for example, the game will freeze and after a moment or two I am back at the desktop with the game, discord, browser etc all having been closed. Is this a sign of something going wrong or could something else with the game itself be causing crashes by overloading my drive?

 

My PC still boots rather quickly, despite the scanning and repairing and otherwise runs very smoothly, I just don't know if this is a sign of a bigger issue or if the PC is just thinking there is a problem from a bad restart. Any tips?

 

(I am currently using Samsung Magician to run a full scan on my drive and will post the screenshot of that when it is finished.)

[Rebel836]

Adding on the result of my full diagnostic scan from Samsung Magician

[kokosnh]

Smart is ok.

is this the latest firmware ? 

ssd seems fine, maybe ram, cpu, or other instability, or just hard reset. 

 

remember you are in read only mode, that’s why chkdsk can’t repair, just do ran it manually... 

[Rebel836]

8 minutes ago, kokosnh said:

Smart is ok.

is this the latest firmware ? 

ssd seems fine, maybe ram, cpu, or other instability, or just hard reset. 

 

remember you are in read only mode, that’s why chkdsk can’t repair, just do ran it manually... 

Manually how? Like having it run on reboot and doing the repair? I've done that and also used sfc /scannow

[Godlygamer23]

12 minutes ago, kokosnh said:

remember you are in read only mode, that’s why chkdsk can’t repair, just do ran it manually... 

This is likely due to performing the scan with Windows running. That is...the program cannot repair the drive due to the drive being in use by Windows. The program will ask that you restart the computer(through the software), and it will rescan and theoretically perform the repairs.

[Godlygamer23]

4 minutes ago, Rebel836 said:

Manually how? Like having it run on reboot and doing the repair? I've done that and also used sfc /scannow

It seems like it's only an issue with the file system itself, so you may have to reinstall Windows to resolve the issue - perhaps refreshing Windows by itself will solve the issue.

[Rebel836]

22 minutes ago, Godlygamer23 said:

It seems like it's only an issue with the file system itself, so you may have to reinstall Windows to resolve the issue - perhaps refreshing Windows by itself will solve the issue.

I was hoping to avoid having to start all over but if that's what I have to do I guess there's not much for it

[Godlygamer23]

3 minutes ago, Rebel836 said:

I was hoping to avoid having to start all over but if that's what I have to do I guess there's not much for it

Is anything important stored on this drive? Have you backed it up already?

[Rebel836]

10 minutes ago, Godlygamer23 said:

Is anything important stored on this drive? Have you backed it up already?

Important? I guess not life threatening lol, just a lot to reinstall. And no I haven't backed it up yet

[kokosnh]

You don’t have to reinstall windows.

just run chkdsk command in cmd in admin, with right parameters. 
and yes it will restart your PC, to get out of read only mode. 
 

and it seems, there is instability in your PC, check everything, lower the ram speed, and cpu, see if it helps.
run memtest etc. 

[Godlygamer23]

4 minutes ago, kokosnh said:

You don’t have to reinstall windows.

just run chkdsk command in cmd in admin, with right parameters. 
and yes it will restart your PC, to get out of read only mode. 
 

and it seems, there is instability in your PC, check everything, lower the ram speed, and cpu, see if it helps.
run memtest etc. 

According to their post, they already rebooted their PC as required to finish the CHDSK repair.

[Godlygamer23]

14 minutes ago, Rebel836 said:

Important? I guess not life threatening lol, just a lot to reinstall. And no I haven't backed it up yet

What are your system specs? Have you run any stress tests to address the other issues?

[Rebel836]

1 hour ago, Godlygamer23 said:

What are your system specs? Have you run any stress tests to address the other issues?

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D

Cooler: Arctic Liquid Freezer II 360

GPU: Sapphire Nitro+ Radeon RX 7900 XTX

MOBO: Gigabyte B650 Aorus Elite AX

Memory: Gskill Flare X5 32GB (2x16) 6000MT/s CL30-38-38-96 (EXPO Enabled)

PSU: MSI MPG A850G PCIE 5 (80+ Gold 850W)

 

Stress tests were all pretty good last time I ran them at least

[Godlygamer23]

7 minutes ago, Rebel836 said:

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D

Cooler: Arctic Liquid Freezer II 360

GPU: Sapphire Nitro+ Radeon RX 7900 XTX

MOBO: Gigabyte B650 Aorus Elite AX

Memory: Gskill Flare X5 32GB (2x16) 6000MT/s CL30-38-38-96 (EXPO Enabled)

PSU: MSI MPG A850G PCIE 5 (80+ Gold 850W)

 

Stress tests were all pretty good last time I ran them at least

What programs did you use? 

[Rebel836]

2 minutes ago, Godlygamer23 said:

What programs did you use? 

Heaven, Cinebench and 3DMark I believe. My results should be in my post history actually

[kokosnh]

3 hours ago, Rebel836 said:

And no I haven't backed it up yet

then do it, less stress. 

4 hours ago, Rebel836 said:

As seen above, chkdsk does in fact find errors detected and my drive is marked as dirty, but every time I try to restart, it does the repair but the errors do not go away.

cmd in admin

CHKDSK c: /F /R /X
 

56 minutes ago, Rebel836 said:

Stress tests were all pretty good last time I ran them at least

4 hours ago, Rebel836 said:

d I have had some game crashes lately that result in the game as well as any running applications closing and putting me back at the desktop. So for example, the game will freeze and after a moment or two I am back at the desktop with the game, discord, browser etc all having been closed. Is this a sign of something going wrong or could something else with the game itself be causing crashes by overloading my drive?

 

6000MT/s can be buggy on weak AMD sample, or bad mount
Try to run it default for now. 
also lower the max CPU speed, or increase the voltage. 

you want your games, and program, to not close ever!
 

[Godlygamer23]

1 hour ago, Rebel836 said:

Heaven, Cinebench and 3DMark I believe. My results should be in my post history actually

Try running Prime95 and Heaven at the same time - no benchmark for Heaven. Just let it run, and see if the system crashes at all.

 

Have you monitored temperatures at all for the CPU and GPU?

[Rebel836]

14 hours ago, Godlygamer23 said:

Try running Prime95 and Heaven at the same time - no benchmark for Heaven. Just let it run, and see if the system crashes at all.

 

Have you monitored temperatures at all for the CPU and GPU?

I'll try that today. My Temps have been good so far on any previous tests or games. I'll keep an eye on it during the test today too

[Rebel836]

17 hours ago, Godlygamer23 said:

Try running Prime95 and Heaven at the same time - no benchmark for Heaven. Just let it run, and see if the system crashes at all.

 

Have you monitored temperatures at all for the CPU and GPU?

 

 

I've never used prime95 before so I'm not entirely sure what to look for but these were my results running Heaven and Prime95 simultaneously. GPU temp peaked at around 41-42, CPU around 60. GPU ran a little hotter when it was just Heaven running (I think anyway. I thought I was running both but Prime might not have been running at the time). When heaven was running by itself, GPU temp was around 55

[Godlygamer23]

1 minute ago, Rebel836 said:

 

 

I've never used prime95 before so I'm not entirely sure what to look for but these were my results running Heaven and Prime95 simultaneously. GPU temp peaked at around 41-42, CPU around 60. GPU ran a little hotter when it was just Heaven running (I think anyway. I thought I was running both but Prime might not have been running at the time). When heaven was running by itself, GPU temp was around 55

Yeah, GPU utilization is lower. It's not really behaving the way it should be - that is, Prime95 is taking away a lot of available resources such that the GPU is not getting brought up to 100% utilization, hence lower temperatures.

 

With Prime95, when you first launch it, you can choose how many threads you want it to run on...reduce it down to 12, and then launch Heaven. Basically, we want to ensure we're stressing both the CPU and GPU.

[Rebel836]

1 hour ago, Godlygamer23 said:

Yeah, GPU utilization is lower. It's not really behaving the way it should be - that is, Prime95 is taking away a lot of available resources such that the GPU is not getting brought up to 100% utilization, hence lower temperatures.

 

With Prime95, when you first launch it, you can choose how many threads you want it to run on...reduce it down to 12, and then launch Heaven. Basically, we want to ensure we're stressing both the CPU and GPU.

I think it was running at 8 since that's how many cores the 7800 has. Should I drop it more? 

[Godlygamer23]

1 hour ago, Rebel836 said:

I think it was running at 8 since that's how many cores the 7800 has. Should I drop it more? 

Apologies. 

Prime95 has been updated and it's slightly different now. 

 

So the program now asks you to determine how many cores you want to stress, and if you want to enable SMT/Hyper-Threading. So given that SMT is enabled, we would want to change the core value to 6, instead of 8, and leave the Hyper-Threading option enabled.

[Rebel836]

12 minutes ago, Godlygamer23 said:

Apologies. 

Prime95 has been updated and it's slightly different now. 

 

So the program now asks you to determine how many cores you want to stress, and if you want to enable SMT/Hyper-Threading. So given that SMT is enabled, we would want to change the core value to 6, instead of 8, and leave the Hyper-Threading option enabled.

Got it. I'll give that a try. 

[Rebel836]

19 hours ago, Godlygamer23 said:

Apologies. 

Prime95 has been updated and it's slightly different now. 

 

So the program now asks you to determine how many cores you want to stress, and if you want to enable SMT/Hyper-Threading. So given that SMT is enabled, we would want to change the core value to 6, instead of 8, and leave the Hyper-Threading option enabled.

This was the start of the test. Had some hiccups and stuttering pretty bad

 

More stuttering

 

Then it started equalizing a bit and the heaven cinematic wasn't jittering as bad. Still kinda low on the GPU utilization though

 

After a while it started evening out and the utilization went back up and short of a couple hiccups it stayed about like this

 

This is near the end of the test after it had been stable for a bit

 

All of these are running a 6 core torture test on P95 and Heaven and this is the log