New AM5 Build BSOD

[dahyippur]

Just finished this AM5 build, and I'm getting infrequent & unrepeatable BSOD! Any advice is appreciated

 

Parts List https://nz.pcpartpicker.com/list/t7H8wg

Minidump files https://files.catbox.moe/3p33p1.zip

Zentimings https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/j7mmc8rzo57.png

 

First crash was while clicking restart in the start menu

Second crash was just watching someone stream in discord

No errors with TM5, Karhu, OCCT, y-cruncher

All software and bios upto date

[191x7]

13 minutes ago, dahyippur said:

Just finished this AM5 build, and I'm getting BSOD! Any advice is appreciated

https://nz.pcpartpicker.com/list/t7H8wg

Minidump files

https://files.catbox.moe/3p33p1.zip

First crash was while clicking restart in the start menu

Second crash I was just watching someone stream in discord

Latest motherboard Bios?

 

Latest Windows version?

[dahyippur]

4 minutes ago, 191x7 said:

Latest motherboard Bios?

 

Latest Windows version?

Latest non-beta bios F21, and yes Windows 11 pro is all upto date

[191x7]

23 minutes ago, dahyippur said:

Latest non-beta bios F21, and yes Windows 11 pro is all upto date

Does it crash with Expo disabled?

[dahyippur]

2 minutes ago, 191x7 said:

Does it crash with Expo disabled?

Suppose it's time to disable EXPO and run some memory tests to find out

[191x7]

24 minutes ago, dahyippur said:

Suppose it's time to disable EXPO and run some memory tests to find out

Yes.

 

Also

 

[dahyippur]

@191x7

 

• What is your full PC configuration https://nz.pcpartpicker.com/list/t7H8wg
• What windows version are you using and are they updated? 11 Pro, up to date
• How are your CPU, MBO and GPU temperatures in idle and under load? Excellent
• Using the latest Motherboard Bios? F21 Latest non-beta BIOS
• Latest chipset drivers downloaded from AMD / Intel? Chipset downloaded from MoBo vendor
• Disk drive health OK? Yes
• Latest SSD firmwares on the SSD-s? None Available
• Latest GPU drivers? Yes
• Latest GPU vBIOS / firmware? Yes
• RAM running XMP (DOCP)? Tried XMP off? EXPO enabled, now testing disabled
• Tested the RAM with Memtest86? In progress
• Does the same happen with a benchmark tool like 3DMark? In progress
• How about Cinebench R23, Unigine heaven? In progress
• Stress test applications work OK (OCCT, Prime95, ...)? No issues w/ gaming or OCCT
• Have you done any tweaks like disabling MultiPlane Overlay MPO? None
• Does the Windows Reliability Monitor tool show issues? Yes
• Do you know the steps to reproduce the issue or what you changed before the issue appeared? No
• Do your 3DMark Firestrike and Timespy score differ a lot from other comparable systems? In progress
• Have you tried replacing any hardware? No
• Tried some of the hardware in another system? No
• Tried running sfc /scannow in command prompt / powershell / Termional? No, fresh windows install
• Any other troubleshooting steps you've tried? Not yet, here seeking advice & experience w/ AM5 & memory

[191x7]

2 minutes ago, dahyippur said:

@191x7

 

• What is your full PC configuration https://nz.pcpartpicker.com/list/t7H8wg
• What windows version are you using and are they updated? 11 Pro, up to date
• How are your CPU, MBO and GPU temperatures in idle and under load? Excellent
• Using the latest Motherboard Bios? F21 Latest non-beta BIOS
• Latest chipset drivers downloaded from AMD / Intel? Chipset downloaded from MoBo vendor
• Disk drive health OK? Yes
• Latest SSD firmwares on the SSD-s? None Available
• Latest GPU drivers? Yes
• Latest GPU vBIOS / firmware? Yes
• RAM running XMP (DOCP)? Tried XMP off? EXPO enabled, now testing disabled
• Tested the RAM with Memtest86? In progress
• Does the same happen with a benchmark tool like 3DMark? In progress
• How about Cinebench R23, Unigine heaven? In progress
• Stress test applications work OK (OCCT, Prime95, ...)? No issues w/ gaming or OCCT
• Have you done any tweaks like disabling MultiPlane Overlay MPO? None
• Does the Windows Reliability Monitor tool show issues? Yes
• Do you know the steps to reproduce the issue or what you changed before the issue appeared? No
• Do your 3DMark Firestrike and Timespy score differ a lot from other comparable systems? In progress
• Have you tried replacing any hardware? No
• Tried some of the hardware in another system? No
• Tried running sfc /scannow in command prompt / powershell / Termional? No, fresh windows install
• Any other troubleshooting steps you've tried? Not yet, here seeking advice & experience w/ AM5 & memory

Oh, I linked that primarily because of the software/tools mentioned. But nice to know. Thanks.

Plz report back with your findings. I'll be happy to help.

[dahyippur]

2 minutes ago, 191x7 said:

Oh, I linked that primarily because of the software/tools mentioned. But nice to know. Thanks.

Plz report back with your findings. I'll be happy to help.

Thank you, I think I will test the memory overnight at stock settings, and again the next night using something like this https://www.patreon.com/posts/low-effort-rank-77403831

[dahyippur]

Any software recommendations for testing ddr5 or bios suggestions (mcr, powerdown, fastboot etc) is greatly appreciated

[Bjoolz]

One dump file looks like memory, one looks like storage. Storage and memory can look very similar and it's completely normal to have a few dump files that look like storage when it's memory and vice versa. This is because of the page file. With just two dump files it's hard to be any more accurate than that.

 

Memory doesn't have to mean RAM, but that is the main suspect. It can also be the CPU (The memory controller is in the CPU) and the motherboard. 

 

2 hours ago, dahyippur said:

Any software recommendations for testing ddr5 or bios suggestions (mcr, powerdown, fastboot etc) is greatly appreciated

 

Memtest86+, but personally I don't like memory testers since DDR4 as they miss bad RAM too often. No harm in using it, but a clean scan doesn't count for much in my book. I much prefer just using the PC normally with one stick at a time, but if it crashes once a week then that gets tedious. 

 

For BIOS settings, I would make sure Precision Boost Overdrive is set to Disabled. PBO is automatic overclocking based on temps that can be too much for some CPUs. If the machine is stable with EXPO off, try gradually increasing it. 6000MT/s is better now than at launch in terms of compatibility, but it's still not a safe bet. Some CPUs are just not going to like it and at least with earlier gens the X3D chips were extra sensitive to overclocking. 

[dahyippur]

Assuming memory passes all tests on stock settings, I'd like to make these changes. I'm not able to do extensive troubleshooting as the PC isn't local and my goal is to just get 6000 stable if possible. If anything seems out of place or needs adjusting please advise!