Struggling with high temps - advice needed.

[StarsMars]

I would check for a bios update. Check ryzen master and see if anything has changed.

You could throw some arctic p12 max. Affordable and great on radiators.

[RevGAM]

5 hours ago, AbsoluteWoo said:

I've not seen any reviews that refer to the SP120s as weak, quite the opposite actually. Do you have any sources for this claim?

 

Yes my goal is a quieter PC. Without custom curves (and thus even higher temps) my fans spin at Max RPM pretty much all the time.

I'm a tester/reviewer. Last year, I did a comparison on my U12A and the SP120s performed poorly. I don't know what you've seen but it ranked in the bottom amongst the fans I had tested.

 

If you try what I suggested, you might get improvement, but...

5 hours ago, AbsoluteWoo said:

That airflow figure is very similar to fans from Noctua etc. I can't see a slight difference in CFM being the reason why my idle temps are 20c higher than they should be.

If you're just here to argue, especially when there is no way to dispute that there are more fans that beat the SP120 RGB Elite than do not, then...

 

I mean, I only have 350ish fans, many of which I haven't had a chance to test yet. 

 

BTW, I personally recommend at least 3mmAq for rad fans, especially on dense/ thick rads. That was a mistake that Arctic made with the LF3...

 

I'm not sure where this 20C difference is coming from. Did I miss it when you posted what your temps were like 2 years ago? I just remember you writing that you've not paid attention to your temps until recently. 

[AbsoluteWoo]

1 hour ago, RevGAM said:

I'm a tester/reviewer. Last year, I did a comparison on my U12A and the SP120s performed poorly. I don't know what you've seen but it ranked in the bottom amongst the fans I had tested.

 

If you try what I suggested, you might get improvement, but...

If you're just here to argue, especially when there is no way to dispute that there are more fans that beat the SP120 RGB Elite than do not, then...

 

I mean, I only have 350ish fans, many of which I haven't had a chance to test yet. 

 

BTW, I personally recommend at least 3mmAq for rad fans, especially on dense/ thick rads. That was a mistake that Arctic made with the LF3...

 

I'm not sure where this 20C difference is coming from. Did I miss it when you posted what your temps were like 2 years ago? I just remember you writing that you've not paid attention to your temps until recently. 

The irony that you're claiming that I am just here to argue. I was simply stating facts with my comment you quoted, a fact that the person I was talking to agreed with. I'm not sure why you're being so passive agressive about that.

 

Anyway, read any review on the SP120 Elites. They all state they're highly recommended fans. They may not be the very best of the best, but they're certainly not 'weak' by any stretch of the imagination. It's clear you have some agenda against them, hence why I am ignoring your advice.

 

Lets look at some reviews

- https://www.techpowerup.com/review/corsair-icue-sp120-rgb-elite-fan/5.html If you read the conclusion here, they state the SP120 is better than most other fans for performance to noise.

- https://www.techpowerup.com/review/corsair-icue-sp120-rgb-elite-fan/6.html That same website give it their highly recommended award.

- https://pcper.com/2021/03/corsair-sp120-sp140-rgb-elite-fans/ - Gold award.

- https://www.eteknix.com/corsair-sp120-sp140-rgb-elite-fan-kit-review/4/ - Again mentioning great performance to noise. Editors Choice Award.

- https://www.neoseeker.com/Articles/Hardware/Reviews/corsair-sp120-rgb-elite/ - "top notch in terms of performance and quality"

- https://overclock3d.net/reviews/cases_cooling/corsair_hd120_sp120_rgb_led_fans_review/ - Enthusiast Award

 

These aren't handpicked reviews either. These are every review that I can find for the S120 Elites. I trust these reviews a lot more than someone who has 87 subscribers on YouTube.

 

My radiator is far from thick.

 

Coolant tends to run around 10c higher than ambient temp. And the 5900x tends to run around 30-40c at idle. I am seeing idle temps of 60c. 40 + 20 = 60. Thats where the 20c figure comes from.

 

When I first built my PC I did check temps for the first few days. Do I remember the exact figures? No. But I remember my CPU running around 30-40c at first. I also remember my temps being similar to my friends build who had the same CPU, motherboard and a very similar AIO and case. I'm sorry I didn't post this in my original post. I didn't expect someone to be so pedantic about it.

 

If you read the rest of the thread, you will see that it's clear this isn't really an airflow/cooling issue.

[NorKris]

41 minutes ago, AbsoluteWoo said:

The irony that you're claiming that I am just here to argue. I was simply stating facts with my comment you quoted, a fact that the person I was talking to agreed with. I'm not sure why you're being so passive agressive about that.

 

Anyway, read any review on the SP120 Elites. They all state they're highly recommended fans. They may not be the very best of the best, but they're certainly not 'weak' by any stretch of the imagination. It's clear you have some agenda against them, hence why I am ignoring your advice.

 

Lets look at some reviews

- https://www.techpowerup.com/review/corsair-icue-sp120-rgb-elite-fan/5.html If you read the conclusion here, they state the SP120 is better than most other fans for performance to noise.

- https://www.techpowerup.com/review/corsair-icue-sp120-rgb-elite-fan/6.html That same website give it their highly recommended award.

- https://pcper.com/2021/03/corsair-sp120-sp140-rgb-elite-fans/ - Gold award.

- https://www.eteknix.com/corsair-sp120-sp140-rgb-elite-fan-kit-review/4/ - Again mentioning great performance to noise. Editors Choice Award.

- https://www.neoseeker.com/Articles/Hardware/Reviews/corsair-sp120-rgb-elite/ - "top notch in terms of performance and quality"

- https://overclock3d.net/reviews/cases_cooling/corsair_hd120_sp120_rgb_led_fans_review/ - Enthusiast Award

 

These aren't handpicked reviews either. These are every review that I can find for the S120 Elites. I trust these reviews a lot more than someone who has 87 subscribers on YouTube.

 

My radiator is far from thick.

 

Coolant tends to run around 10c higher than ambient temp. And the 5900x tends to run around 30-40c at idle. I am seeing idle temps of 60c. 40 + 20 = 60. Thats where the 20c figure comes from.

 

When I first built my PC I did check temps for the first few days. Do I remember the exact figures? No. But I remember my CPU running around 30-40c at first. I also remember my temps being similar to my friends build who had the same CPU, motherboard and a very similar AIO and case. I'm sorry I didn't post this in my original post. I didn't expect someone to be so pedantic about it.

 

If you read the rest of the thread, you will see that it's clear this isn't really an airflow/cooling issue.

tech power up link:  4-5 lowest cfm tru rad ... hmmm 

[AbsoluteWoo]

1 hour ago, NorKris said:

tech power up link:  4-5 lowest cfm tru rad ... hmmm 

I don't use them as radiator fans.

[RevGAM]

2 hours ago, AbsoluteWoo said:

The irony that you're claiming that I am just here to argue. I was simply stating facts with my comment you quoted, a fact that the person I was talking to agreed with. I'm not sure why you're being so passive agressive about that.

 

Anyway, read any review on the SP120 Elites. They all state they're highly recommended fans. They may not be the very best of the best, but they're certainly not 'weak' by any stretch of the imagination. It's clear you have some agenda against them, hence why I am ignoring your advice.

 

Lets look at some reviews

- https://www.techpowerup.com/review/corsair-icue-sp120-rgb-elite-fan/5.html If you read the conclusion here, they state the SP120 is better than most other fans for performance to noise.

- https://www.techpowerup.com/review/corsair-icue-sp120-rgb-elite-fan/6.html That same website give it their highly recommended award.

- https://pcper.com/2021/03/corsair-sp120-sp140-rgb-elite-fans/ - Gold award.

- https://www.eteknix.com/corsair-sp120-sp140-rgb-elite-fan-kit-review/4/ - Again mentioning great performance to noise. Editors Choice Award.

- https://www.neoseeker.com/Articles/Hardware/Reviews/corsair-sp120-rgb-elite/ - "top notch in terms of performance and quality"

- https://overclock3d.net/reviews/cases_cooling/corsair_hd120_sp120_rgb_led_fans_review/ - Enthusiast Award

 

These aren't handpicked reviews either. These are every review that I can find for the S120 Elites. I trust these reviews a lot more than someone who has 87 subscribers on YouTube.

 

My radiator is far from thick.

 

Coolant tends to run around 10c higher than ambient temp. And the 5900x tends to run around 30-40c at idle. I am seeing idle temps of 60c. 40 + 20 = 60. Thats where the 20c figure comes from.

 

When I first built my PC I did check temps for the first few days. Do I remember the exact figures? No. But I remember my CPU running around 30-40c at first. I also remember my temps being similar to my friends build who had the same CPU, motherboard and a very similar AIO and case. I'm sorry I didn't post this in my original post. I didn't expect someone to be so pedantic about it.

 

If you read the rest of the thread, you will see that it's clear this isn't really an airflow/cooling issue.

Well, clearly, since you've found all those reviews, and you've decided that you're going to ignore my advice, what else can I say than I gave you advice on how to lower your temps - not just about airflow. But, by all means, you go ahead and ignore it.

The only agenda *I* have here is helping people and learning. If you choose to believe otherwise, well...That is your choice.

 

Good luck, DW.

[NorKris]

why SP  fans if no rad 

[AbsoluteWoo]

8 hours ago, NorKris said:

why SP  fans if no rad 

It's what the case comes with. The Corsair AF120 Elites are better for radiators which is what I use for my radiator.

[TatamiMatt]

21 minutes ago, AbsoluteWoo said:

It's what the case comes with. The Corsair AF120 Elites are better for radiators which is what I use for my radiator.

Better again, but still not amazing, room for improvement

 

But at this point i really doubt itll make 20C of difference, it was a long shot to begin with with the original fans i thought you had like, but definitely not now

 

What thermal paste are you using and how much?

 

Are you tightenting down all corners evenly, diagonally and bit by bit on an install so it isnt skewed?

 

Whats your pump speed?

[AbsoluteWoo]

An update on this for those interested. I took my CPU in for some testing at Scan UK. They saw no issues with it using the stock AMD Wraith Prism air cooler. They said it was likely another failed AIO. They have given me one of the Wraith Prism coolers and I am indeed seeing much better temps with it (and with less noise) than I did with my AIO. I have contacted Corsair again to hopefully get a new AIO that isn't broken this time.