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2 minutes ago, schnoz said:

The RX 6600 is way more affordable for me in this case but I’ll have only 8GB of VRAM. I don’t think that’s too bad. 

If its a LOT more affordable then id say 6600

 

6600

https://ro.pcpartpicker.com/product/D9ytt6/asrock-radeon-rx-6600-8-gb-challenger-d-video-card-rx6600-cld-8g

 

3060 8GB

https://ro.pcpartpicker.com/product/WR4Zxr/gigabyte-gaming-oc-geforce-rtx-3060-8gb-8-gb-video-card-gv-n3060gaming-oc-8gd

 

3060 12GB

https://ro.pcpartpicker.com/product/8d4Ycf/gigabyte-windforce-oc-geforce-rtx-3060-12gb-12-gb-video-card-gv-n3060wf2oc-12gd

 

Idk if these are cheaper for you or not but theyre the cheapest versions of themselves on pcpartpicker

Budget (including currency): 300 euros 

Country: Romania

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Baldur's Gate 3,Enshrouded,RDR2,Starfield,Elden Ring (gaming in general) 

Other details : So It's been a few days since I'm looking for a newer GPU because I'm not satisfied anymore with the one that I have atm and I'm just exhausted because I don't know what to pick between RX 6600 / RTX 3060 12 GB / RTX 3050 8 GB. My only concern is bottlenecking and since I don't want to change anything but my GPU I know bottlenecking can't be avoided but still I don't know what would be the best case in this scenario. Maybe I need to look for weaker GPU'S? I really don't know. (I don't want to buy second hand components also). I appreciate ANY opinion at this point. Just please help me make the right choice. 
My current setup :
Processor :i5-9400F 
 2.90 GHZ 
GPU : 1060 GTX 3GB 
Motherboard : B360M-A
SOCKET LGA1151 

PSU : 500
RAM : 24 GB 2400 MHZ 

Let me know If I need to be more specific with any information. 

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3 minutes ago, schnoz said:

RX 6600 / RTX 3060 12 GB / RTX 3050 8 GB.

3050 is a no go. No idea about local market but if eastern europe is all the same, Nvidia as a brand name will an carry unjust premium merely because of having NVIDIA in its name. AMD would be my go to choice. 

 

Bottlenecking will always happen, just nudging it around to a different place from one component to another.

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7 minutes ago, schnoz said:

My only concern is bottlenecking

"Bottlenecking" is a fear that's completely blown out of proportion. Your 9400F is still a fairly stout processor; you're not pairing a 4090 with a Q6600, so don't worry about it.

 

Besides, buying "too much GPU" now just means that GPU won't be completely useless if and when you upgrade the rest of your PC later.

 

Scratch the 3050 off your list, it's faster than your 1060 but not that much faster to justify the price in my opinion.

 

My vote goes to the 3060.

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10 minutes ago, schnoz said:

Budget (including currency): 300 euros 

Country: Romania

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Baldur's Gate 3,Enshrouded,RDR2,Starfield,Elden Ring (gaming in general) 

Other details : So It's been a few days since I'm looking for a newer GPU because I'm not satisfied anymore with the one that I have atm and I'm just exhausted because I don't know what to pick between RX 6600 / RTX 3060 12 GB / RTX 3050 8 GB. My only concern is bottlenecking and since I don't want to change anything but my GPU I know bottlenecking can't be avoided but still I don't know what would be the best case in this scenario. Maybe I need to look for weaker GPU'S? I really don't know. (I don't want to buy second hand components also). I appreciate ANY opinion at this point. Just please help me make the right choice. 
My current setup :
Processor :i5-9400F 
 2.90 GHZ 
GPU : 1060 GTX 3GB 
Motherboard : B360M-A
SOCKET LGA1151 

PSU : 500
RAM : 24 GB 2400 MHZ 

Let me know If I need to be more specific with any information. 

is the rx 6600xt or a rx 7600 an option?

System specs:

 

 

CPU: Ryzen 7 7800X3D [-30 PBO all core]

GPU: Sapphire AMD Radeon RX 7800 XT NITRO+ [1050mV, 2.8GHz core, 2.6Ghz mem]

Motherboard: MSI MAG B650 TOMAHAWK WIFI

RAM: G.Skill Trident Z5 NEO RGB 32GB 6000MHz CL32 DDR5

Storage: 2TB SN850X, 1TB SN850 w/ heatsink, 500GB P5 Plus (OS Storage)

Case: 5000D AIRFLOW

Cooler: Thermalright Frost Commander 140

PSU: Corsair RM850e

 

PCPartPicker List: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/QYLBh3

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7 minutes ago, schnoz said:

Budget (including currency): 300 euros 

Country: Romania

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Baldur's Gate 3,Enshrouded,RDR2,Starfield,Elden Ring (gaming in general) 

Other details : So It's been a few days since I'm looking for a newer GPU because I'm not satisfied anymore with the one that I have atm and I'm just exhausted because I don't know what to pick between RX 6600 / RTX 3060 12 GB / RTX 3050 8 GB. My only concern is bottlenecking and since I don't want to change anything but my GPU I know bottlenecking can't be avoided but still I don't know what would be the best case in this scenario. Maybe I need to look for weaker GPU'S? I really don't know. (I don't want to buy second hand components also). I appreciate ANY opinion at this point. Just please help me make the right choice. 
My current setup :
Processor :i5-9400F 
 2.90 GHZ 
GPU : 1060 GTX 3GB 
Motherboard : B360M-A
SOCKET LGA1151 

PSU : 500
RAM : 24 GB 2400 MHZ

With that budget you'd be best off buying a used 1080Ti or 2080Ti.

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No sir. I can’t find it even if I wanted to.

5 minutes ago, Needfuldoer said:

"Bottlenecking" is a fear that's completely blown out of proportion. Your 9400F is still a fairly stout processor; you're not pairing a 4090 with a Q6600, so don't worry about it.

 

Besides, buying "too much GPU" now just means that GPU won't be completely useless if and when you upgrade the rest of your PC later.

 

Scratch the 3050 off your list, it's faster than your 1060 but not that much faster to justify the price in my opinion.

 

My vote goes to the 3060.

Thank you for your time. https://pc-builds.com/bottleneck-calculator/result/0T4185/3/graphic-card-intense-tasks/1920x1080/ What do you think about this benchmark? Anything to be concerned about?

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7 minutes ago, TatamiMatt said:

is the rx 6600xt or a rx 7600 an option?

Thank you for your time! Those are too expensive here sadly.

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4 minutes ago, schnoz said:

Thank you for your time. https://pc-builds.com/bottleneck-calculator/result/0T4185/3/graphic-card-intense-tasks/1920x1080/ What do you think about this benchmark? Anything to be concerned about?

"Bottleneck calculators" are horseshit. Ignore them.

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4 minutes ago, schnoz said:

No sir. I can’t find it even if I wanted to.

Thank you for your time. https://pc-builds.com/bottleneck-calculator/result/0T4185/3/graphic-card-intense-tasks/1920x1080/ What do you think about this benchmark? Anything to be concerned about?

Dont use those benchmarkers, they dont tell you anything thats of use, youll always have a bottle neck, if you play on say ultra settings on a very graphically demanding game, youll get more usage out of your gpu and it may even become the bottleneck in that game. If your running highly cpu demanding games, thatll be the bottleneck, it depends on so many minor things that a calculator cant account for

System specs:

 

 

CPU: Ryzen 7 7800X3D [-30 PBO all core]

GPU: Sapphire AMD Radeon RX 7800 XT NITRO+ [1050mV, 2.8GHz core, 2.6Ghz mem]

Motherboard: MSI MAG B650 TOMAHAWK WIFI

RAM: G.Skill Trident Z5 NEO RGB 32GB 6000MHz CL32 DDR5

Storage: 2TB SN850X, 1TB SN850 w/ heatsink, 500GB P5 Plus (OS Storage)

Case: 5000D AIRFLOW

Cooler: Thermalright Frost Commander 140

PSU: Corsair RM850e

 

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1 minute ago, Needfuldoer said:

"Bottleneck calculators" are horseshit. Ignore them.

Oh ok,thank you so much it caused me so much anxiety.

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Just now, TatamiMatt said:

Dont use those benchmarkers, they dont tell you anything thats of use, youll always have a bottle neck, if you play on say ultra settings on a very graphically demanding game, youll get more usage out of your gpu and it may even become the bottleneck in that game. If your running highly cpu demanding games, thatll be the bottleneck, it depends on so many minor things that a calculator cant account for

I didn’t knew this either! I’m so grateful for your time guys thanks a lot!

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Just now, schnoz said:

Oh ok,thank you so much it caused me so much anxiety.

My bet if you cant get a used 1080Ti or 2080Ti, or either of the cards i mentioned would probably be the 3060, as @Needfuldoer also recommended

System specs:

 

 

CPU: Ryzen 7 7800X3D [-30 PBO all core]

GPU: Sapphire AMD Radeon RX 7800 XT NITRO+ [1050mV, 2.8GHz core, 2.6Ghz mem]

Motherboard: MSI MAG B650 TOMAHAWK WIFI

RAM: G.Skill Trident Z5 NEO RGB 32GB 6000MHz CL32 DDR5

Storage: 2TB SN850X, 1TB SN850 w/ heatsink, 500GB P5 Plus (OS Storage)

Case: 5000D AIRFLOW

Cooler: Thermalright Frost Commander 140

PSU: Corsair RM850e

 

PCPartPicker List: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/QYLBh3

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Just now, TatamiMatt said:

My bet if you cant get a used 1080Ti or 2080Ti, or either of the cards i mentioned would probably be the 3060, as @Needfuldoer also recommended

What about RX 6600? Should I not consider that either?

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5 minutes ago, schnoz said:

What about RX 6600? Should I not consider that either?

Oh forgot about that one, it depends on price, do you know what the individual price of these cards are?

 

the 6600 and 3060 both trade blows with the 3060 slightly ahead but if you were to get the 12gb 3060 it could last you longer with higher VRAM demand of recent games, but if its quite a bit more expensive then it wouldnt be worth it

System specs:

 

 

CPU: Ryzen 7 7800X3D [-30 PBO all core]

GPU: Sapphire AMD Radeon RX 7800 XT NITRO+ [1050mV, 2.8GHz core, 2.6Ghz mem]

Motherboard: MSI MAG B650 TOMAHAWK WIFI

RAM: G.Skill Trident Z5 NEO RGB 32GB 6000MHz CL32 DDR5

Storage: 2TB SN850X, 1TB SN850 w/ heatsink, 500GB P5 Plus (OS Storage)

Case: 5000D AIRFLOW

Cooler: Thermalright Frost Commander 140

PSU: Corsair RM850e

 

PCPartPicker List: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/QYLBh3

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1 minute ago, TatamiMatt said:

Oh forgot about that one, it depends on price, do you know what the individual price of these cards are?

 

the 6600 and 3060 both trade blows

The RX 6600 is way more affordable for me in this case but I’ll have only 8GB of VRAM. I don’t think that’s too bad. 

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4 minutes ago, schnoz said:

The RX 6600 is way more affordable for me in this case but I’ll have only 8GB of VRAM. I don’t think that’s too bad. 

8gb is fine for now. Most reviewer are talking about it as a minimum for new gpus and 1440p+ people are seeing some titles where its not enough, but as a "budget" card you should be fine, especially if you are willing to reduce texture quality, should you encounter issues.

 

Good luck with the upgrade.

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2 minutes ago, schnoz said:

The RX 6600 is way more affordable for me in this case but I’ll have only 8GB of VRAM. I don’t think that’s too bad. 

If its a LOT more affordable then id say 6600

 

6600

https://ro.pcpartpicker.com/product/D9ytt6/asrock-radeon-rx-6600-8-gb-challenger-d-video-card-rx6600-cld-8g

 

3060 8GB

https://ro.pcpartpicker.com/product/WR4Zxr/gigabyte-gaming-oc-geforce-rtx-3060-8gb-8-gb-video-card-gv-n3060gaming-oc-8gd

 

3060 12GB

https://ro.pcpartpicker.com/product/8d4Ycf/gigabyte-windforce-oc-geforce-rtx-3060-12gb-12-gb-video-card-gv-n3060wf2oc-12gd

 

Idk if these are cheaper for you or not but theyre the cheapest versions of themselves on pcpartpicker

System specs:

 

 

CPU: Ryzen 7 7800X3D [-30 PBO all core]

GPU: Sapphire AMD Radeon RX 7800 XT NITRO+ [1050mV, 2.8GHz core, 2.6Ghz mem]

Motherboard: MSI MAG B650 TOMAHAWK WIFI

RAM: G.Skill Trident Z5 NEO RGB 32GB 6000MHz CL32 DDR5

Storage: 2TB SN850X, 1TB SN850 w/ heatsink, 500GB P5 Plus (OS Storage)

Case: 5000D AIRFLOW

Cooler: Thermalright Frost Commander 140

PSU: Corsair RM850e

 

PCPartPicker List: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/QYLBh3

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1 hour ago, Needfuldoer said:

"Bottlenecking" is a fear that's completely blown out of proportion. Your 9400F is still a fairly stout processor; you're not pairing a 4090 with a Q6600, so don't worry about it.

As someone who uses a 9400F in their main system, I think anything more than a 3060 8gb is going to be bottlenecking your system.

 

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1 hour ago, schnoz said:

No sir. I can’t find it even if I wanted to.

Thank you for your time. https://pc-builds.com/bottleneck-calculator/result/0T4185/3/graphic-card-intense-tasks/1920x1080/ What do you think about this benchmark? Anything to be concerned about?

bottleneck calculators are bs

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