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13 minutes ago, Garri3105 said:

i'm also considering an amd 7800xt by xfx since i found one for only 40euro more

I'd get that over the 7700 xt

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My am3+ based gaming pc has come a long way and it's run out of steam, so i'm building a new system and i would like some thoughts on it!

Motheboard: Asus prime b650m-k

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7700x

CPU COOLER: Cooler Master MasterLiquid M240L

GPU: AMD Radeon rx7700xt gigabyte

RAM: Kingston ddr5 8gb 6000MHz (2 sticks so total of 16GB)

SSD: Corsair MP600 core 1tb

 

PC build is aimed at gaming and is based on AM5 for future upgrades being easier.

2 IMPORTANT QUESTION i have are:

-is the cooling setup for the cpu going to be enough knowing ryzen 7000 likes to get hot

-is my current 560w PSU enough considering the recommended wattage is 525w on most PSU calculator websites. I would feel comfortable with that but the PSU is 8 years old, i have tested it and it always turned out fine, its a modular 80plus gold rated PSU but i think over time it has lost some of its mojo.

Sorry if i missed the topic or if i have made a boring, long topic but i appreciate the helpful answers in advanced!

 

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1 minute ago, Garri3105 said:

Motheboard: Asus prime b650m-k

this won't cut it for a 7700x

 

2 minutes ago, Garri3105 said:

is the cooling setup for the cpu going to be enough knowing ryzen 7000 likes to get hot

yes but I'd get a thermalright PS120 SE for better price to performance

 

2 minutes ago, Garri3105 said:

is my current 560w PSU enough considering the recommended wattage is 525w on most PSU calculator websites. I would feel comfortable with that but the PSU is 8 years old, i have tested it and it always turned out fine, its a modular 80plus gold rated PSU but i think over time it has lost some of its mojo.

which specific brand and model is it? 

 

2 minutes ago, Garri3105 said:

Motheboard: Asus prime b650m-k

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7700x

CPU COOLER: Cooler Master MasterLiquid M240L

GPU: AMD Radeon rx7700xt gigabyte

RAM: Kingston ddr5 8gb 6000MHz (2 sticks so total of 16GB)

SSD: Corsair MP600 core 1tb

what's your budget for this upgrade?

Message me on discord (bread8669) for more help 

 

Current parts list: 

CPU: R5 5600 CPU Cooler: Stock

Mobo: Asrock B550M-ITX/ac

RAM: Vengeance LPX 2x8GB 3200mhz Cl16

SSD: P5 Plus 500GB Secondary SSD: Kingston A400 960GB

GPU: MSI RTX 3060 Gaming X

Fans: 1x Noctua NF-P12 Redux, 1x Arctic P12, 1x Corsair LL120

PSU: NZXT SP-650M SFX-L PSU from H1

Monitor: Samsung WQHD 34 inch and 43 inch TV

Mouse: Logitech G203

Keyboard: Rii membrane keyboard

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


 

 

 

 

 

 

Damn this space can fit a 4090 (just kidding)

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2 minutes ago, Garri3105 said:

-is my current 560w PSU enough considering the recommended wattage is 525w on most PSU calculator websites. I would feel comfortable with that but the PSU is 8 years old, i have tested it and it always turned out fine, its a modular 80plus gold rated PSU but i think over time it has lost some of its mojo.

A DECENT PSU, probably it will be fine (the overall wattage of your build doesn't really matter here, only the PSU's quality and ability to handle the load), but since it is 8 years old, an upgrade would seem prudent anyway.

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2 minutes ago, Garri3105 said:

My am3+ based gaming pc has come a long way and it's run out of steam, so i'm building a new system and i would like some thoughts on it!

Motheboard: Asus prime b650m-k

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7700x

CPU COOLER: Cooler Master MasterLiquid M240L

GPU: AMD Radeon rx7700xt gigabyte

RAM: Kingston ddr5 8gb 6000MHz (2 sticks so total of 16GB)

SSD: Corsair MP600 core 1tb

 

PC build is aimed at gaming and is based on AM5 for future upgrades being easier.

2 IMPORTANT QUESTION i have are:

-is the cooling setup for the cpu going to be enough knowing ryzen 7000 likes to get hot

-is my current 560w PSU enough considering the recommended wattage is 525w on most PSU calculator websites. I would feel comfortable with that but the PSU is 8 years old, i have tested it and it always turned out fine, its a modular 80plus gold rated PSU but i think over time it has lost some of its mojo.

An AIO isn't really required for a 7700x. You should get a thermalright phantom spirit or a thermalright peerless assassin instead.

 

I would recommend getting a 750W PSU, pcpartpicker's wattage estimates don't account for power pikes.

 

You should avoid 8GB sticks of DDR5, they come with a large performance penalty. Get 2x16GB.

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Common build advice: 1) Buy the cheapest (well reviewed) motherboard that has the features you need. Paying more typically only gets you features you won’t use. 2) only get as much RAM as you need, getting more won’t (typically) make your PC faster. 3) While I recommend getting an NVMe drive, you don’t need to splurge for an expensive drive with DRam cache, DRamless drives are fine for gamers. 4) paying for looks is fine, just don’t break the bank. 5) Tower coolers are usually good enough, unless you go top tier Intel or plan on OCing. 6) OCing is a dead meme, you probably shouldn’t bother. 7) "Bottlenecks" rarely matter and "Future-proofing" is a myth. 8) AIOs don't noticably improve performance past 240mm.

 

useful websites: https://www.productchart.com - helps compare monitors, https://uk.pcpartpicker.com - makes designing a PC easier.

 

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6 minutes ago, filpo said:

this won't cut it for a 7700x

Are you concerned about the VRMs or is there a specific issue with this B650 board?

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Common build advice: 1) Buy the cheapest (well reviewed) motherboard that has the features you need. Paying more typically only gets you features you won’t use. 2) only get as much RAM as you need, getting more won’t (typically) make your PC faster. 3) While I recommend getting an NVMe drive, you don’t need to splurge for an expensive drive with DRam cache, DRamless drives are fine for gamers. 4) paying for looks is fine, just don’t break the bank. 5) Tower coolers are usually good enough, unless you go top tier Intel or plan on OCing. 6) OCing is a dead meme, you probably shouldn’t bother. 7) "Bottlenecks" rarely matter and "Future-proofing" is a myth. 8) AIOs don't noticably improve performance past 240mm.

 

useful websites: https://www.productchart.com - helps compare monitors, https://uk.pcpartpicker.com - makes designing a PC easier.

 

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I'm a PhD student working in the fields of reinforcement learning and traffic control. PCs are one of my hobbies and I've built many PCs and performed upgrades on a few laptops (for myself, friends and family). My personal computers include 3 windows (10/11) machines and a TrueNAS server (and I'm looking to move to dual booting Linux Mint on my main machine in future). While I believe I have an decent amount of experience in spec’ing, building and troubleshooting computers, keep in mind I'm not an expert or a professional and I make mistakes.

 

Favourite Games of all time: World of Tanks, Runescape, Subnautica, Metroid (Fusion and Dread), Spyro: Year of the Dragon (Original and Reignited Trilogy), Crash Bash, Mario Kart Wii

 

Main PC: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/will0hlep/saved/NByp3C

 

Secondary PC: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/will0hlep/saved/cc9K7P

 

TrueNAS Server: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/will0hlep/saved/m37w3C

 

Laptop: 13.4" ASUS GZ301ZE ROG Flow Z13, WUXGA 120Hz, i9 12900H, 16GB DDR5, 1TB NVMe SSD, 4GB RTX 3050 Ti, TB4, Win11 Home, Used with: 2*ThinkPad Universal Thunderbolt 4 Dock, Logitech G603, Logitech G502 Hero, Logitech K120, Logitech G915 TKL, Xbox Elite Wireless Controller Series 2, Logitech G PRO X Gaming-Headset (with Blue Icepop in Black), {specs to be updated: two monitors}

 

Other: LTT Screwdriver, LTT Stubby Screwdriver, IFIXIT Pro Tech Toolkit, Playstation 1 SCPH-102, Playstation 2 SCPH-30003, Gameboy Micro Silver OXY-001, Nintendo Wii U WUP-001(03), Playstation 4 CUH-1116A, Nintendo Switch OLED HEG-001, Yamaha RX-A4A Black AV Receiver, Monitor Audio Radius (4*90s, 1*200s, 2*270s, 1*380s), TP-Link TL-SG105-M2, Netgear GS308, IPhone 14 Pro Max 128GB Space Black, Secretlab TITAN Evo (Black SoftWeave Plus Fabric), 2*CyberPower BR1200ELCD-UK BRICs Series, Samsung 40" ES6800 Series 6 SMART 3D FHD LED TV, UGREEN USB 3.2 Gen 2 10Gbps M.2 NVMe SSD Enclosure, SABRENT 3.5" SATA drive docking station

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5 minutes ago, filpo said:

this won't cut it for a 7700x

what's wrong with Prime B650M-K? it only doesn't have some heatsinks

1 minute ago, will0hlep said:

Are you concerned about the VRMs or is there a specific issue with this B650 board?

I have the same question, it only doesn't have heatsink for the side above CPU

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5 minutes ago, podkall said:

what's wrong with Prime B650M-K? it only doesn't have some heatsinks

I have the same question, it only doesn't have heatsink for the side above CPU

 

7 minutes ago, will0hlep said:

Are you concerned about the VRMs or is there a specific issue with this B650 board?

sorry guys, thought it was similar to the b650m-h from asrock but I'm wrong. My bad

Message me on discord (bread8669) for more help 

 

Current parts list: 

CPU: R5 5600 CPU Cooler: Stock

Mobo: Asrock B550M-ITX/ac

RAM: Vengeance LPX 2x8GB 3200mhz Cl16

SSD: P5 Plus 500GB Secondary SSD: Kingston A400 960GB

GPU: MSI RTX 3060 Gaming X

Fans: 1x Noctua NF-P12 Redux, 1x Arctic P12, 1x Corsair LL120

PSU: NZXT SP-650M SFX-L PSU from H1

Monitor: Samsung WQHD 34 inch and 43 inch TV

Mouse: Logitech G203

Keyboard: Rii membrane keyboard

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


 

 

 

 

 

 

Damn this space can fit a 4090 (just kidding)

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to all of you asking for budget, i can't answer that 100% accurately because while pc component prices in Serbia are higher that average, i'm also getting a good deal on these parts and getting a tax return. So all in all for all parts i have listed plus an nzxt case the build will cost me about 900euro or 970usd. Also i'm happy will0hlep reminded me of the 8gb stick shortcomings, thanks 🙂

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Also does 970usd for all these parts sound expensive considering they are all brand new with regular waranty?

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16 minutes ago, jaslion said:

Budget?

 

24 minutes ago, filpo said:

this won't cut it for a 7700x

 

yes but I'd get a thermalright PS120 SE for better price to performance

 

which specific brand and model is it? 

 

what's your budget for this upgrade?

sorry i forgot to quote you but i have written the budget situation above

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There are only 2 decent 560w PSU and a lot of junk. What's the brand and model of this particular 560w PSU?

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41 minutes ago, Garri3105 said:

Also does 970usd for all these parts sound expensive considering they are all brand new with regular waranty?

not bad. I'd get a 7700 instead of a 7700x tho

Message me on discord (bread8669) for more help 

 

Current parts list: 

CPU: R5 5600 CPU Cooler: Stock

Mobo: Asrock B550M-ITX/ac

RAM: Vengeance LPX 2x8GB 3200mhz Cl16

SSD: P5 Plus 500GB Secondary SSD: Kingston A400 960GB

GPU: MSI RTX 3060 Gaming X

Fans: 1x Noctua NF-P12 Redux, 1x Arctic P12, 1x Corsair LL120

PSU: NZXT SP-650M SFX-L PSU from H1

Monitor: Samsung WQHD 34 inch and 43 inch TV

Mouse: Logitech G203

Keyboard: Rii membrane keyboard

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


 

 

 

 

 

 

Damn this space can fit a 4090 (just kidding)

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5 minutes ago, --SID-- said:

There are only 2 decent 560w PSU and a lot of junk. What's the brand and model of this particular 560w PSU?

i don't know the exact model i have since i threw away the box but it's a thermaltake PSU i bought in 2016 when i first assembled the pc

 

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4 minutes ago, filpo said:

not bad. I'd get a 7700 instead of a 7700x tho

Thank you for the input, i'm also considering an amd 7800xt by xfx since i found one for only 40euro more

 

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13 minutes ago, Garri3105 said:

i'm also considering an amd 7800xt by xfx since i found one for only 40euro more

I'd get that over the 7700 xt

Message me on discord (bread8669) for more help 

 

Current parts list: 

CPU: R5 5600 CPU Cooler: Stock

Mobo: Asrock B550M-ITX/ac

RAM: Vengeance LPX 2x8GB 3200mhz Cl16

SSD: P5 Plus 500GB Secondary SSD: Kingston A400 960GB

GPU: MSI RTX 3060 Gaming X

Fans: 1x Noctua NF-P12 Redux, 1x Arctic P12, 1x Corsair LL120

PSU: NZXT SP-650M SFX-L PSU from H1

Monitor: Samsung WQHD 34 inch and 43 inch TV

Mouse: Logitech G203

Keyboard: Rii membrane keyboard

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


 

 

 

 

 

 

Damn this space can fit a 4090 (just kidding)

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1 hour ago, filpo said:

sorry guys, thought it was similar to the b650m-h from asrock but I'm wrong. My bad

To be fair, you did have a point, the prime boards usually come bottom of HUB's roundup every year 😂 

 

 

But, I think it'll survive the 7700.

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23 minutes ago, Garri3105 said:

i don't know the exact model i have since i threw away the box but it's a thermaltake PSU i bought in 2016 when i first assembled the pc

 

Probably 530w when it's a TT. https://de.thermaltake.com/hamburg-530w.html

Bad unit for nowadays standards.

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Okay, no idea what parts prices are like in Serbia, but in an effort to find Eastern European €-base prices, I looked at PCPartPicker in Slovakia....

 

I took your list and went with a slightly lower CPU, higher GPU and added a PSU:


https://sk.pcpartpicker.com/list/k8Rnrv
Ryzen 5 7600X [€220]

Peerless Assassin 120SE [€30?]

Asrock B650M Pro RS (HUB rated the VRM on this very highly, even good with a 7950X!) [€150?]

32Gb (2x16Gb) GSkill DDR5 6000 CL30 [€130]

WD Blue SN850 1Tb [€70]

RX7800XT 16Gb [€550]

EVGA 850GQ (850W semi-modular) [€110]

 

[EDIT] Sorry - only noticed after that the prices were missing for several components, so this is WAY over €900 now!

I edited the list above with my best-guess for UK prices + € conversion, but comes in ~1250 😞 (but your €900 target was missing a few big items like a PSU?)

 

Note the gaming performance of the 7600X will be virtually identical to the 7700X.... and save you a few pennies to you can just to a 7800X3D sooner, which IS a big step up.... plus you'll have a way better GPU thoughout!

My workstation/gamer: Ryzen9 5900X@5Ghz, AC Freezer2 280mm AIO, ASUS TUF X570PRO, RTX3080Ti FE, 32Gb TridentZ DDR4-3600C14, M.2 1Tb WDSN850, M.2 1Tb WDSN550, 2x 8Tb WD80EFAX, Corsair HX850, LianLi O11 Air Mini + 3x NF-A14's, Gigabyte M27Q (27"/1440P/170Hz), Asus PA248 (24"/1200P/60Hz), Dell WFP2408 (24"/1200P/60Hz), G815 kbd, G502 mouse, Sony WH-H910N, ModMic Wireless.

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