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rtx 3070 good value but rtx 4060 ti not?

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13 minutes ago, Fat Cat11997 said:

I'm building a pc with a ryzen 7700x, but im looking for a graphics card to pair with it. I'm not going to do anything too gpu intensive so it's ok if i have a gpu bottleneck because half the time i won't even use 60% of it's power. I've heard that the rtx 3070 has really good value, but i really want to future proof myself with more vram than just the 8 gigs it has, and i've been looking at the 4060 ti bc it has similar peformance and price while also having 16 gigs, but i've heard that the 4060 ti is really bad value. Why?

Because it's not even as fast as a 3070 and is way more expensive

If you don't do 3D stuff get an AMD 6750XT

I'm building a pc with a ryzen 7700x, but im looking for a graphics card to pair with it. I'm not going to do anything too gpu intensive so it's ok if i have a gpu bottleneck because half the time i won't even use 60% of it's power. I've heard that the rtx 3070 has really good value, but i really want to future proof myself with more vram than just the 8 gigs it has, and i've been looking at the 4060 ti bc it has similar peformance and price while also having 16 gigs, but i've heard that the 4060 ti is really bad value. Why?

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13 minutes ago, Fat Cat11997 said:

I'm building a pc with a ryzen 7700x, but im looking for a graphics card to pair with it. I'm not going to do anything too gpu intensive so it's ok if i have a gpu bottleneck because half the time i won't even use 60% of it's power. I've heard that the rtx 3070 has really good value, but i really want to future proof myself with more vram than just the 8 gigs it has, and i've been looking at the 4060 ti bc it has similar peformance and price while also having 16 gigs, but i've heard that the 4060 ti is really bad value. Why?

Because it's not even as fast as a 3070 and is way more expensive

If you don't do 3D stuff get an AMD 6750XT

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2 hours ago, Fat Cat11997 said:

I'm building a pc with a ryzen 7700x, but im looking for a graphics card to pair with it. I'm not going to do anything too gpu intensive so it's ok if i have a gpu bottleneck because half the time i won't even use 60% of it's power. I've heard that the rtx 3070 has really good value, but i really want to future proof myself with more vram than just the 8 gigs it has, and i've been looking at the 4060 ti bc it has similar peformance and price while also having 16 gigs, but i've heard that the 4060 ti is really bad value. Why?

overpriced

also dont buy last gen cards new unless new pricing isnt that far from used pricing and/or new has a game bundle of some sort

 

buy a used 6700xt for ~200$ or a used 6800(xt)/3080 for ~300$, if you really dont need the gpu power maybe a <200$ rtx 3060 but only if its noticably cheaper than the 6700xt and you need nvidia features cause the 6700xt demolishes it in gpu performance

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5 hours ago, Fat Cat11997 said:

i've been looking at the 4060 ti bc it has similar peformance and price while also having 16 gigs, but i've heard that the 4060 ti is really bad value. Why?

The big problem is that pricing is not static. Reviews at launch would look at pricing at the time and make their comments from that. 

 

What is your current pricing for a 3070, 4060 Ti 16GB, and what are similar current AMD options in that price bracket? That's the decision you need to make, not at an out of date price in a review.

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https://www.techpowerup.com/review/sapphire-radeon-rx-7600-xt-pulse/32.html

 

Did they put in a post edit time limit? Was going to add to my last post but it wont let me.

 

1080p relative performance. Where I am in the UK, the 3070 is essentially not available new any more. 4060 Ti near enough same perf as 3070, but brings with it the updates that came with Ada generation (mainly FG new). It is sandwiched in performance by 7700XT and 7600XT. 7700XT is comparable in price to the 4060 Ti 16GB where I am, but if 16GB matters vs 12GB. Above perf is raster leaning. If you include RT NV would go up relatively.

 

Used products are usually way cheaper than new so that's a separate consideration.

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Productivity system: i9-7980XE, Asus X299 TUF mark 2, Noctua D15, 64GB ram (mixed), RTX 3070, NZXT E850, GameMax Abyss, Samsung 980 Pro 2TB, random 1080p + 720p displays.
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