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frozensun
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Hi guys.

I have 2 old PCs one of them was working normally and second one not showing picture on monitor at all  though probably booting fine.

Rarely like one out of 20 tries this PC  behaves normally.

Suddenly even second PCs started having same issue.No picture on monitor.

I bought 2 new VGA cables, still same issue.

Now none of them is showing picture on monitor.

VGA is only video output.Second older PC has DVI but I don't get pic over DVI too.

How come suddenly PC which was working fine now showing same symptoms as not working one?

2 new cables, no help.

On newer PC I do hear at boot one long and 3 short beeps.

It's a AMD Sempron Athlon XP PC and second one is PIII @500 MHz.

 

Please do not take offence for my apparent confusion or rudeness,it's not intent me to be like that,it's just my BPD,be nice to me,and I'll return twice better,be rude and usually I get easly pissed of...I'll try to help anyone here,as long as it's something I dealt with,and even if you think I'm rude or not polite,forgive me,  it's not me it's my BPD.

Thanks for understanding.

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Can you swap in another video card?

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But to Tom, it's all foolery. 

 

 

 

 

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4 minutes ago, da na said:

Can you swap in another video card?

Nope sorry.Don't have spare AGP cards.

But that PC was working fine.

Never before issues until now.

Who knows, maybe I shorted out the GPU with bad cable...

 

Please do not take offence for my apparent confusion or rudeness,it's not intent me to be like that,it's just my BPD,be nice to me,and I'll return twice better,be rude and usually I get easly pissed of...I'll try to help anyone here,as long as it's something I dealt with,and even if you think I'm rude or not polite,forgive me,  it's not me it's my BPD.

Thanks for understanding.

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3 minutes ago, frozensun said:

Nope sorry.Don't have spare AGP cards.

But that PC was working fine.

Never before issues until now.

Who knows, maybe I shorted out the GPU with bad cable...

can you check the gpu pins themselves? as well as the contacts in the agp port

Message me on discord (bread8669) for more help 

Quote me if you want me to get notified

 

Current parts list: PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7600 3.8 GHz 6-Core Processor  (Purchased For £175.00) 
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE ARGB 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  (Purchased For £0.00) 
Motherboard: MSI PRO B650M-A WIFI Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard  (Purchased For £144.99) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  (Purchased For £89.99) 
Storage: Crucial P5 Plus 500 GB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (Purchased For £0.00) 
Storage: Kingston A400 960 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (Purchased For £0.00) 
Video Card: Gigabyte GAMING OC Radeon RX 7800 XT 16 GB Video Card  (Purchased For £448.99) 
Case: Lian Li LANCOOL 205M MESH MicroATX Mini Tower Case  (Purchased For £82.98) 
Power Supply: MSI MAG A850GL PCIE5 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (Purchased For £99.00) 
Total: £1040.95

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


 

 

 

 

 

Damn this space can fit a 5090 (just kidding, it needs more)

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2 minutes ago, filpo said:

can you check the gpu pins themselves? as well as the contacts in the agp port

Yes I can.But on first PC I did not remove the card.PC was booting fine.

I did check pins of the GPU on second card and they are okay.

Not sure how to check pins on AGP slot, need multimeter?

 

Please do not take offence for my apparent confusion or rudeness,it's not intent me to be like that,it's just my BPD,be nice to me,and I'll return twice better,be rude and usually I get easly pissed of...I'll try to help anyone here,as long as it's something I dealt with,and even if you think I'm rude or not polite,forgive me,  it's not me it's my BPD.

Thanks for understanding.

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5 minutes ago, frozensun said:

Not sure how to check pins on AGP slot

like visually, any damage?

Message me on discord (bread8669) for more help 

Quote me if you want me to get notified

 

Current parts list: PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7600 3.8 GHz 6-Core Processor  (Purchased For £175.00) 
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE ARGB 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  (Purchased For £0.00) 
Motherboard: MSI PRO B650M-A WIFI Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard  (Purchased For £144.99) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  (Purchased For £89.99) 
Storage: Crucial P5 Plus 500 GB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (Purchased For £0.00) 
Storage: Kingston A400 960 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (Purchased For £0.00) 
Video Card: Gigabyte GAMING OC Radeon RX 7800 XT 16 GB Video Card  (Purchased For £448.99) 
Case: Lian Li LANCOOL 205M MESH MicroATX Mini Tower Case  (Purchased For £82.98) 
Power Supply: MSI MAG A850GL PCIE5 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (Purchased For £99.00) 
Total: £1040.95

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


 

 

 

 

 

Damn this space can fit a 5090 (just kidding, it needs more)

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13 minutes ago, filpo said:

like visually, any damage?

Nope...

 

Please do not take offence for my apparent confusion or rudeness,it's not intent me to be like that,it's just my BPD,be nice to me,and I'll return twice better,be rude and usually I get easly pissed of...I'll try to help anyone here,as long as it's something I dealt with,and even if you think I'm rude or not polite,forgive me,  it's not me it's my BPD.

Thanks for understanding.

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1 hour ago, frozensun said:

How come suddenly PC which was working fine now showing same symptoms as not working one?

 

old hardware dies. At the youngest those cards are 12 years old. 

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I am getting one long and 2 short beeps.

I can see red light working which means PV boots fine, just I don't get picture.

Maybe monitor died?

Hmmm, I am thihking that somehow I shorted out something (monitor) with older PC and now newer PC does not show picture...it nevet happened with newer PC (lets say PC 1) is newer , PC 2 (older).

 

Please do not take offence for my apparent confusion or rudeness,it's not intent me to be like that,it's just my BPD,be nice to me,and I'll return twice better,be rude and usually I get easly pissed of...I'll try to help anyone here,as long as it's something I dealt with,and even if you think I'm rude or not polite,forgive me,  it's not me it's my BPD.

Thanks for understanding.

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Okay, so on first PC I blow away the dust on agp slot and reseated the card and now working fine...

What should I try on second PC?

 

Please do not take offence for my apparent confusion or rudeness,it's not intent me to be like that,it's just my BPD,be nice to me,and I'll return twice better,be rude and usually I get easly pissed of...I'll try to help anyone here,as long as it's something I dealt with,and even if you think I'm rude or not polite,forgive me,  it's not me it's my BPD.

Thanks for understanding.

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17 hours ago, frozensun said:

What should I try on second PC?

same thing?

Message me on discord (bread8669) for more help 

Quote me if you want me to get notified

 

Current parts list: PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7600 3.8 GHz 6-Core Processor  (Purchased For £175.00) 
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE ARGB 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  (Purchased For £0.00) 
Motherboard: MSI PRO B650M-A WIFI Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard  (Purchased For £144.99) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  (Purchased For £89.99) 
Storage: Crucial P5 Plus 500 GB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (Purchased For £0.00) 
Storage: Kingston A400 960 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (Purchased For £0.00) 
Video Card: Gigabyte GAMING OC Radeon RX 7800 XT 16 GB Video Card  (Purchased For £448.99) 
Case: Lian Li LANCOOL 205M MESH MicroATX Mini Tower Case  (Purchased For £82.98) 
Power Supply: MSI MAG A850GL PCIE5 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (Purchased For £99.00) 
Total: £1040.95

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


 

 

 

 

 

Damn this space can fit a 5090 (just kidding, it needs more)

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5 hours ago, filpo said:

same thing?

Yep.Same issue not showing pic on monitor.

 

Please do not take offence for my apparent confusion or rudeness,it's not intent me to be like that,it's just my BPD,be nice to me,and I'll return twice better,be rude and usually I get easly pissed of...I'll try to help anyone here,as long as it's something I dealt with,and even if you think I'm rude or not polite,forgive me,  it's not me it's my BPD.

Thanks for understanding.

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Still getting no video input.

The chasis is in pretty bad conditon could it be the cause that bracket of the graphics card is somehow touching the motherboard?

Even when I remove the graphics card from AGP slot still is hard to remove it from chasis, like its making contact somewhere between MoBo and chasis.

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Please do not take offence for my apparent confusion or rudeness,it's not intent me to be like that,it's just my BPD,be nice to me,and I'll return twice better,be rude and usually I get easly pissed of...I'll try to help anyone here,as long as it's something I dealt with,and even if you think I'm rude or not polite,forgive me,  it's not me it's my BPD.

Thanks for understanding.

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On 2/21/2024 at 8:46 PM, filpo said:

like visually, any damage?

Nope...

 

 

How about me removing everything from PC case and then trying to boot up the PC?

 

Please do not take offence for my apparent confusion or rudeness,it's not intent me to be like that,it's just my BPD,be nice to me,and I'll return twice better,be rude and usually I get easly pissed of...I'll try to help anyone here,as long as it's something I dealt with,and even if you think I'm rude or not polite,forgive me,  it's not me it's my BPD.

Thanks for understanding.

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1 minute ago, frozensun said:

Nope...

 

 

How about me removing everything from PC case and then trying to boot up the PC?

Possibly, but if that doesn't work then I'm stumped. Sorry 😔

Message me on discord (bread8669) for more help 

Quote me if you want me to get notified

 

Current parts list: PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7600 3.8 GHz 6-Core Processor  (Purchased For £175.00) 
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE ARGB 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  (Purchased For £0.00) 
Motherboard: MSI PRO B650M-A WIFI Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard  (Purchased For £144.99) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  (Purchased For £89.99) 
Storage: Crucial P5 Plus 500 GB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (Purchased For £0.00) 
Storage: Kingston A400 960 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (Purchased For £0.00) 
Video Card: Gigabyte GAMING OC Radeon RX 7800 XT 16 GB Video Card  (Purchased For £448.99) 
Case: Lian Li LANCOOL 205M MESH MicroATX Mini Tower Case  (Purchased For £82.98) 
Power Supply: MSI MAG A850GL PCIE5 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (Purchased For £99.00) 
Total: £1040.95

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


 

 

 

 

 

Damn this space can fit a 5090 (just kidding, it needs more)

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So i removed all the pci-cards, removed optical drives, removed MoBo from case.

Installed only AGP graphics card that was previously installed but swapped the PSU since I did not want to bother removing second PSU from case.

And PC booted fine.

Now this is interesting.

What would be my second step?

To try to boot with older PSU?

 

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Please do not take offence for my apparent confusion or rudeness,it's not intent me to be like that,it's just my BPD,be nice to me,and I'll return twice better,be rude and usually I get easly pissed of...I'll try to help anyone here,as long as it's something I dealt with,and even if you think I'm rude or not polite,forgive me,  it's not me it's my BPD.

Thanks for understanding.

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So anyone explain me how PC works normallynout of the chasis and inside I do get no video output error?

What would my next steps be?

 

Please do not take offence for my apparent confusion or rudeness,it's not intent me to be like that,it's just my BPD,be nice to me,and I'll return twice better,be rude and usually I get easly pissed of...I'll try to help anyone here,as long as it's something I dealt with,and even if you think I'm rude or not polite,forgive me,  it's not me it's my BPD.

Thanks for understanding.

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