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Watch OS 10 is Apple greediness at its finest

I recently bought my mom for her birthday an Apple Watch SE Gen 2 that she's been asking for a long time when I gave it to her and started the set up I found out that my mom's iPhone 8 plus which runs ios 16.2 CAN'T PAIR WITH THE DARN WATCH!!!!!!!! It turns out that Apple decided that you need the IOS 17 you like it or not to use the watch and even though watch OS 9 worked perfectly with iOS 16 this new update doesn't.

 

And I know is my fault for not checking the compatibility versions so this didn't happen the thing is that this is not user-friendly at all, many people who don't understand technology and compatibility stuff will see this thing on Amazon and think that they can just buy it and use it daily and believe it or not there is a lot of ios 16 iPhone users out there, and the worst part is that most of us don't live in countries where apple stores are a thing.

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Regardless of the version of iOS or watchOS whatever device is running, no matter how you split it the iPhone 8 will be 7 years old this year. That is an absolute eternity in technology time, and realistically it's due for a replacement at this point even if it does do whatever she wants just fine. insert smartass comment about consumerism here

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The problem is your mom has an iPhone 8. This year is the last year that doing that is viable. Pro tip, if the phone does not support 5G, its too old.

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On 2/1/2024 at 8:25 PM, flibberdipper said:

insert smartass comment about consumerism here

See my signature.

: JRE #1914 Siddarth Kara

How bad is e-waste?  Listen to that Joe Rogan episode.

 

"Now you get what you want, but do you want more?
- Bob Marley, Rastaman Vibration album 1976

 

Windows 11 will just force business to "recycle" "obscolete" hardware.  Microsoft definitely isn't bothered by this at all, and seems to want hardware produced just a few years ago to be considered obsolete.  They have also not shown any interest nor has any other company in a similar financial position, to help increase tech recycling whatsoever.  Windows 12 might be cloud-based and be a monthly or yearly fee.

 

Software suggestions


Just get f.lux [Link removed due to forum rules] so your screen isn't bright white at night, a golden orange in place of stark 6500K bluish white.

released in 2008 and still being improved.

 

Dark Reader addon for webpages.  Pick any color you want for both background and text (background and foreground page elements).  Enable the preview mode on desktop for Firefox and Chrome addon, by clicking the dark reader addon settings, Choose dev tools amd click preview mode.

 

NoScript or EFF's privacy badger addons can block many scripts and websites that would load and track you, possibly halving page load time!

 

F-droid is a place to install open-source software for android, Antennapod, RethinkDNS, Fennec which is Firefox with about:config, lots of performance and other changes available, mozilla KB has a huge database of what most of the settings do.  Most software in the repository only requires Android 5 and 6!

 

I recommend firewall apps (blocks apps) and dns filters (redirect all dns requests on android, to your choice of dns, even if overridden).  RethinkDNS is my pick and I set it to use pi-hole, installed inside Ubuntu/Debian, which is inside Virtualbox, until I go to a website, nothing at all connects to any other server.  I also use NextDNS.io to do the same when away from home wi-fi or even cellular!  I can even tether from cellular to any device sharing via wi-fi, and block anything with dns set to NextDNS, regardless if the device allows changing dns.  This style of network filtration is being overridden by software updates on some devices, forcing a backup dns provuder, such as google dns, when built in dns requests are not connecting.  Without a complete firewall setup, dns redirection itself is no longer always effective.

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On 2/1/2024 at 8:38 PM, DrMacintosh said:

Pro tip, if the phone does not support 5G, its too old.

4G low-band 700Mhz isn't much different than 5G 600 Mhz, and judging by the higher frequency, probably safer.  4G is still around and the long range frequencies are not at all different enough to warrant a replacement, so 4G frequencies are still going to be in use for quite some time.  My phone is also still in use at now seven years, and performs better than new devices, because android is going down the drain.  VLC can't even access sd card folders like older android can, so it's just a lesser version, not an improvement.  On new android versions, the android system itself takes 1GB of memory and it's only getting worse.  The tablet I'm on, that leave 400 MB.  It's all un an effort, which is succeeding, to force people to constantly upgrade.  And people GLADLY go along with it and it just keeps going.  So you get a new device with new, heavier software for a worse experience.

 

iOS is too restrictive, and android's software quality just can't match Apple.  It will be nice when some operating system designer can create a better system, like WebOS, which is much lighter than android, with a single 1 GHz cpu thread and 256 MB of memory.

: JRE #1914 Siddarth Kara

How bad is e-waste?  Listen to that Joe Rogan episode.

 

"Now you get what you want, but do you want more?
- Bob Marley, Rastaman Vibration album 1976

 

Windows 11 will just force business to "recycle" "obscolete" hardware.  Microsoft definitely isn't bothered by this at all, and seems to want hardware produced just a few years ago to be considered obsolete.  They have also not shown any interest nor has any other company in a similar financial position, to help increase tech recycling whatsoever.  Windows 12 might be cloud-based and be a monthly or yearly fee.

 

Software suggestions


Just get f.lux [Link removed due to forum rules] so your screen isn't bright white at night, a golden orange in place of stark 6500K bluish white.

released in 2008 and still being improved.

 

Dark Reader addon for webpages.  Pick any color you want for both background and text (background and foreground page elements).  Enable the preview mode on desktop for Firefox and Chrome addon, by clicking the dark reader addon settings, Choose dev tools amd click preview mode.

 

NoScript or EFF's privacy badger addons can block many scripts and websites that would load and track you, possibly halving page load time!

 

F-droid is a place to install open-source software for android, Antennapod, RethinkDNS, Fennec which is Firefox with about:config, lots of performance and other changes available, mozilla KB has a huge database of what most of the settings do.  Most software in the repository only requires Android 5 and 6!

 

I recommend firewall apps (blocks apps) and dns filters (redirect all dns requests on android, to your choice of dns, even if overridden).  RethinkDNS is my pick and I set it to use pi-hole, installed inside Ubuntu/Debian, which is inside Virtualbox, until I go to a website, nothing at all connects to any other server.  I also use NextDNS.io to do the same when away from home wi-fi or even cellular!  I can even tether from cellular to any device sharing via wi-fi, and block anything with dns set to NextDNS, regardless if the device allows changing dns.  This style of network filtration is being overridden by software updates on some devices, forcing a backup dns provuder, such as google dns, when built in dns requests are not connecting.  Without a complete firewall setup, dns redirection itself is no longer always effective.

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