pc kinda broke

[pcbrok]

HI there! 
Ive been having some problems with my pc for the past 6-8 months and i cant figure it out so i came here for help, since im not very familiar with pc's 

When im particular games playing my pc will randomly shutdown and startup again, ive tried reinstalling windows and what not but to no avail, im 100% sure its one of my components...

I think its worth noting that its only some games it shutdown in, like War Thunder, CS2, Fortnite (sorry) and some other aaa games.

Going trough my specs i think its a solid build and i dont want to change anything other than possibly getting more ram. I will say that my powersupply is very old now and only 450W so ive been comteplating whether its a cpu thing or powersupply issue.
I hope someone will be able to help me solving it since its making my hair grey and thin

[Hinjima]

8 minutes ago, pcbrok said:

HI there! 
Ive been having some problems with my pc for the past 6-8 months and i cant figure it out so i came here for help, since im not very familiar with pc's 

When im particular games playing my pc will randomly shutdown and startup again, ive tried reinstalling windows and what not but to no avail, im 100% sure its one of my components...

I think its worth noting that its only some games it shutdown in, like War Thunder, CS2, Fortnite (sorry) and some other aaa games.

Going trough my specs i think its a solid build and i dont want to change anything other than possibly getting more ram. I will say that my powersupply is very old now and only 450W so ive been comteplating whether its a cpu thing or powersupply issue.
I hope someone will be able to help me solving it since its making my hair grey and thin

Could definitely be the PSU if its a bad 450w unit. Do you know the exact model?

[Wyzzy Moon]

Could be a psu issue, could also be temps. Are the temps in you screenshot with a load on it? or at idle?

[pcbrok]

7 minutes ago, Hinjima said:

Could definitely be the PSU if its a bad 450w unit. Do you know the exact model?

its this one, its quite old now tho

[pcbrok]

4 minutes ago, Wyzzy Moon said:

Could be a psu issue, could also be temps. Are the temps in you screenshot with a load on it? or at idle?

at idle, ive checked when playing how high the temps go but they are always at 80ish celsius 

[Wyzzy Moon]

2 minutes ago, pcbrok said:

at idle, ive checked when playing how high the temps go but they are always at 80ish celsius 

Bios might have a thermal limit set. For the CPU.

[PDifolco]

31 minutes ago, pcbrok said:

at idle, ive checked when playing how high the temps go but they are always at 80ish celsius 

CPU or GPU temp ?

80C on CPU is ok, but not so much for a 2060 GPU (caps at 83C, may shutdown)

[podkall]

@PDifolco @Hinjima the PSU is F-tier

[Hinjima]

37 minutes ago, pcbrok said:

its this one, its quite old now tho

Orange or black label?

It could definitely be the PSU, its old and not very good.

[podkall]

53 minutes ago, pcbrok said:

solving it

do you have any GPU software like MSI Afterburner installed?

[pcbrok]

2 hours ago, podkall said:

do you have any GPU software like MSI Afterburner installed?

yea, but i cant see the voltage usage

[pcbrok]

2 hours ago, Hinjima said:

Orange or black label?

It could definitely be the PSU, its old and not very good.

its the orange label one, mine is maybe 5 years old give or take

[Hinjima]

Just now, pcbrok said:

its the orange label one, mine is maybe 5 years old give or take

Thats not good at all.. Orange lable VS 450 is a terrible unit and its being 5 years old at this point might be the cause of the issues.

[problemsolver]

Yup, it also has really bad OCP and OPP. OCP trips too early and OPP trips too late.

Quote

The 5V rail cannot deliver its nominal power since the overcurrent protection (OCP) is set at 16A, while theoretically, at least, this rail can deliver up to 20A.

The overpower protection (OPP) is set too high, allowing the 12V rail to drop as low as 11.16V. We had to abort this test else the PSU would break. Usually the first sign before an imminent failure are the bottom low voltages. Finally, the power ok signal is lower than 16ms but it is accurate, which is what matters the most. Source 

I vote with the others that you should probably try with a different PSU first.

[podkall]

11 hours ago, pcbrok said:

yea, but i cant see the voltage usage

no need, if you have a voltage slider, try lowering it, all the way down or just enough to cause some significantly reduced power draw

 

the GPU will run slower, however it will also draw less W, making triggering any protections on the PSU less likely

 

but as @Hinjima and others said, it's probably good to get a better quality PSU soon

[pcbrok]

alright thanks alot, any recomendations to a new powersupply? i was thinking a 750W or something a little bit better.