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Am I wrong for being upset with Microsoft?

Keanu__Leaves

Now, let's give this a little backstory. So, I've owned my HP Proliant DL320 G6 for quite a number of years. Lately, it's been sitting around collecting dust, so I figured why not try to use it for a Plex server. I drag the old thing out, clean it up, and all that. Get everything hooked up, and try to log into the ILO2 interface (Yes it's that old.) and immediately remember the fact that I cannot connect to the web server without using Internet Explorer. I tried using MS Edge (gross) with their Internet Explorer mode enabled. No luck. I tried using the VNX Launcher offered by Dell, and it half-works. I can get into the interface, log in, and mess with most settings. But when it comes to what I need to use it for, it does not. I need to use the Remote Console feature to proceed with installing Linux. I get to the point where I'm able to click on the Remote Console feature, but no dice. Refuses to work. So I start looking into whether or not it's possible to install IE in Windows 11, and manage to find an offline IE installer on the Microsoft site. Download and try to run and execute, and guess what? IT OPENS EDGE. FOR ONCE IN MY LIFE I NEED TO USE EXPLORER. Now, the reason why I ask this, is because IE has been discontinued for some time, and they slowly phased it out although it was likely hardly used. Then if I recall correctly, was added as an Optional Feature built into Windows 10 that you had to manually enable. Windows 11? Nope. Maybe my emotions should be more so aimed towards HP, or maybe I just showed up to the party 9 years to late and shouldn't be complaining. What do you guys think?

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58 minutes ago, Keanu__Leaves said:

maybe I just showed up to the party 9 years to late and shouldn't be complaining.

Pretty much that, except more like 12 years, based on the CPU generation. Software compatibility isn't ever a guarantee (look at the myriad platforms that used Java web plugins).

 

More than likely, you could access the ILO pretty easily using a Win7 VM, which is a pretty trivial process.

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                           ┌─────────────── Office/Rack ────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┐
Google Fiber Webpass ────── UniFi Security Gateway ─── UniFi Switch 8-60W ─┬─ UniFi Switch Flex XG ═╦═ Veda (Proxmox Virtual Switch)
(500Mbps↑/500Mbps↓)                             UniFi CloudKey Gen2 (PoE) ─┴─ Veda (IPMI)           ╠═ Veda-NAS (HW Passthrough NIC)
╔═══════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════╩═ Narrative (Asus USB 2.5G NIC)
║ ┌────── Closet ──────┐   ┌─────────────── Bedroom ──────────────────────────────────────────────────────┐
╚═ UniFi Switch Flex XG ═╤═ UniFi Switch Flex XG ═╦═ Byarlant
   (PoE)                 │                        ╠═ Narrative (Cable Matters USB-PD 2.5G Ethernet Dongle)
                         │                        ╚═ Jesta Cannon*
                         │ ┌─────────────── Media Center ──────────────────────────────────┐
Notes:                   └─ UniFi Switch 8 ─────────┬─ UniFi Access Point nanoHD (PoE)
═══ is Multi-Gigabit                                ├─ Sony Playstation 4 
─── is Gigabit                                      ├─ Pioneer VSX-S520
* = cable passed to Bedroom from Media Center       ├─ Sony XR65A80K (Google TV)
** = cable passed from Media Center to Bedroom      └─ Work Laptop** (Startech USB-PD Dock)

 

Retired/Other:

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1 hour ago, Keanu__Leaves said:

Now, let's give this a little backstory. So, I've owned my HP Proliant DL320 G6 for quite a number of years. Lately, it's been sitting around collecting dust, so I figured why not try to use it for a Plex server. I drag the old thing out, clean it up, and all that. Get everything hooked up, and try to log into the ILO2 interface (Yes it's that old.) and immediately remember the fact that I cannot connect to the web server without using Internet Explorer. I tried using MS Edge (gross) with their Internet Explorer mode enabled. No luck. I tried using the VNX Launcher offered by Dell, and it half-works. I can get into the interface, log in, and mess with most settings. But when it comes to what I need to use it for, it does not. I need to use the Remote Console feature to proceed with installing Linux. I get to the point where I'm able to click on the Remote Console feature, but no dice. Refuses to work. So I start looking into whether or not it's possible to install IE in Windows 11, and manage to find an offline IE installer on the Microsoft site. Download and try to run and execute, and guess what? IT OPENS EDGE. FOR ONCE IN MY LIFE I NEED TO USE EXPLORER. Now, the reason why I ask this, is because IE has been discontinued for some time, and they slowly phased it out although it was likely hardly used. Then if I recall correctly, was added as an Optional Feature built into Windows 10 that you had to manually enable. Windows 11? Nope. Maybe my emotions should be more so aimed towards HP, or maybe I just showed up to the party 9 years to late and shouldn't be complaining. What do you guys think?

TBH with how bad Internet Explorer was, I'd be angrier at the software developer that thought it was a good idea to solely write their software with only IE in mind.

My mum has been frustrated several times by the goverment's education department having a lot of websites and software that still actively requires IE to function at all.

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You should be upset at HP for requiring Internet Explorer on their old iLO interfaces. At least it's not Java. (Remember when that was "the future"?)

 

Scrap that relic and get a Sandy/Ivy or Haswell/Broadwell system instead. It will pay for itself in power savings surprisingly quickly.

I sold my soul for ProSupport.

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