Help required with particular OLED problem with Avatar Way of Water

[Kindred]

Hello everyone! 

First of all I'd like to thank everyone that takes the time to help me with this issue... I'd like to apologize if this isn't the correct forum, or if this goes in any way against community guidelines.... 

 

I'm having an issue with a LG C2 and Avatar Way of Water that I just can't troubleshoot... My TV is connected to my pc via HDMI (2080ti and can't support HDMI2.1 so its limited to 4k60fps). I have literally 0 issues that I can find with any other movies or series that I watch on my setup EXCEPT with Way of Water. 

I've tried multiple sources for this movie, watching them through PotPlayer and some scenes there's just a choppiness or juddering or microstuttering that I just can't figure out! it happens quite frequently especially when heavy action or lots of characters appear on screen... maybe associated with rapid movement? I don't know... I can't seem to be able to notice this with any other movies/shows either through PotPlayer or streamed.... I know that my video source is 24fps (or close to it) but so are my other files and they seem unaffected by this issue... My input is set to PC Mode, but I dont know if this has anything to do with it since as I said I dont encounter this issue with any other movies or shows.... 

The best description that I can give is that sometimes the animations seem to miss some frames or something and end up being sped up... its really really annoying me.... at first I thought it might be something with the file or encoding, but I've tried at least 3 different sources and all share the same issues.... 

Really damned weird.... 

[jaslion]

Is this a streamed version or a bluray?

 

Put your tv in game mode. Could be it's try to post process and struggling. Which isn't too surprising considering the potato soc's they put in tvs.

 

Also try vlc it's normally the better player.

 

 

[BetteBalterZen]

Do you use any interpolation? 

[Kindred]

1 minute ago, jaslion said:

Is this a streamed version or a bluray?

 

Put your tv in game mode. Could be it's try to post process and struggling. Which isn't too surprising considering the potato soc's they put in tvs.

 

Also try vlc it's normally the better player.

 

 

Actually neither... lets just say its from the high seas yarrrr..... 

Should it be in game mode when connected to a pc? shouldn't it be in pc mode? (sorry I know this may seem like a newbie question, but I truly don't know...) 

Regarding VLC I did use to use it but theres an issue with HDR and subtitles that's been unfixed for ages (or so it seems) where all of the subtitles just show up in black even if I try to change their colors... 

Just now, BetteBalterZen said:

Do you use any interpolation? 

I'm using stock settings on PotPlayer... never really messed with interpolation or have the know how.... 

[jaslion]

4 minutes ago, Kindred said:

Actually neither... lets just say its from the high seas yarrrr..... 

Think ya better sail to a different supplier then

[Kindred]

1 minute ago, jaslion said:

Think ya better sail to a different supplier then

yeah, thats what I thought at first but as I said, it only happens with this particular movie, independent of the sources...

[BetteBalterZen]

17 minutes ago, Kindred said:

yeah, thats what I thought at first but as I said, it only happens with this particular movie, independent of the sources...

Well, some movies have movement that are just right for the interpolation algorithm to shit its pants. So did you try turning it off and see? 

Update; sorry, I replied to wrong comment. Nvm!

[BetteBalterZen]

26 minutes ago, Kindred said:

I'm using stock settings on PotPlayer... never really messed with interpolation or have the know how.... 

Your TV can apply this, but if you're using your TV in the PC mode, it should disable any interpolation but it's worth to check. If it's on, it can certainly make weird movement, soap opera effect as it is called, and/or lags. 

[Kindred]

2 minutes ago, BetteBalterZen said:

Your TV can apply this, but if you're using your TV in the PC mode, it should disable any interpolation but it's worth to check. If it's on, it can certainly make weird movement, soap opera effect as it is called, and/or lags. 

thank you, but I dont think interpolation is being used on the side of the TV...

[BetteBalterZen]

1 minute ago, Kindred said:

thank you, but I dont think interpolation is being used on the side of the TV...

Most TVs actually enable interpolation features by default, just not in Gaming mode / PC mode afaik, so if you are unsure, I'd say it's worth finding out.  

[Kindred]

1 minute ago, BetteBalterZen said:

Most TVs actually enable interpolation features by default, just not in Gaming mode / PC mode afaik, so if you are unsure, I'd say it's worth finding out.  

Yeah I don't think its enabled since most of the options are grey'd out... 

[BetteBalterZen]

3 minutes ago, Kindred said:

Yeah I don't think its enabled since most of the options are grey'd out... 

I agree

Hope you figure it out!

[Blue4130]

14 hours ago, Kindred said:

Hello everyone! 

First of all I'd like to thank everyone that takes the time to help me with this issue... I'd like to apologize if this isn't the correct forum, or if this goes in any way against community guidelines.... 

 

I'm having an issue with a LG C2 and Avatar Way of Water that I just can't troubleshoot... My TV is connected to my pc via HDMI (2080ti and can't support HDMI2.1 so its limited to 4k60fps). I have literally 0 issues that I can find with any other movies or series that I watch on my setup EXCEPT with Way of Water. 

I've tried multiple sources for this movie, watching them through PotPlayer and some scenes there's just a choppiness or juddering or microstuttering that I just can't figure out! it happens quite frequently especially when heavy action or lots of characters appear on screen... maybe associated with rapid movement? I don't know... I can't seem to be able to notice this with any other movies/shows either through PotPlayer or streamed.... I know that my video source is 24fps (or close to it) but so are my other files and they seem unaffected by this issue... My input is set to PC Mode, but I dont know if this has anything to do with it since as I said I dont encounter this issue with any other movies or shows.... 

The best description that I can give is that sometimes the animations seem to miss some frames or something and end up being sped up... its really really annoying me.... at first I thought it might be something with the file or encoding, but I've tried at least 3 different sources and all share the same issues.... 

Really damned weird.... 

The way of water used high frame rate during action scenes. (48 fps) and standard 24 frames for slower scenes. My guess is that the conversion to whatever format you grabbed didn't handle the variable frame rate well.

 

Just speculation, but it seems plausible.

[Omon_Ra]

Try Media Player Classic as your video player. VLC has issues with mkv and HDR files sometimes because...reasons?