Are External HDD's meant to be always Safely Removed?

[dani.petro]

Pardon my english but I have a question.

Recently I saw a short video somewhere about not safely ejecting storage devices and yanking them out after the work is done but it didn't talk about spinning ext hdd. 

Today I tried it with my seagate ext hdd but it made some sort of chirping/squeak noise when it pulled the usb cord out. 

 

Is it not safe to do the same for ext hdd?

[Helpful Tech Witch]

3 minutes ago, dani.petro said:

Pardon my english but I have a question.

Recently I saw a short video somewhere about not safely ejecting storage devices and yanking them out after the work is done but it didn't talk about spinning ext hdd. 

Today I tried it with my seagate ext hdd but it made some sort of chirping/squeak noise when it pulled the usb cord out. 

 

Is it not safe to do the same for ext hdd?

you should never just yank a spinning disk

[Agall]

5 minutes ago, dani.petro said:

Pardon my english but I have a question.

Recently I saw a short video somewhere about not safely ejecting storage devices and yanking them out after the work is done but it didn't talk about spinning ext hdd. 

Today I tried it with my seagate ext hdd but it made some sort of chirping/squeak noise when it pulled the usb cord out. 

 

Is it not safe to do the same for ext hdd?

I've pulled out 100s of times without issues related to external HDD failure without 'safely ejecting' first.

 

Ejecting is a good idea, but not necessary, just like how not flicking the switch on your power supply to shut off your PC and instead letting it gracefully shutdown is a good idea, but not necessary. Always a small chance that feature was supposed to be used in that given scenario.

[dani.petro]

2 minutes ago, Agall said:

I've pulled out 100s of times without issues related to external HDD failure without 'safely ejecting' first.

 

Ejecting is a good idea, but not necessary, just like how not flicking the switch on your power supply to shut off your PC and instead letting it gracefully shutdown is a good idea, but not necessary. Always a small chance that feature was supposed to be used in that given scenario.

Forgot to mention that this sound happens in the hdd even when shutting down the pc with the ext hdd on.

[dani.petro]

4 minutes ago, Helpful Tech Witch said:

you should never just yank a spinning disk

I hope I didn't crap my Hdd 

[Agall]

8 minutes ago, Helpful Tech Witch said:

you should never just yank a spinning disk

3 minutes ago, dani.petro said:

I hope I didn't crap my Hdd 

Should also never drop your phone, but depending on the circumstances, it's probably fine most of the time.

[Helpful Tech Witch]

5 minutes ago, Agall said:

Should also never drop your phone, but depending on the circumstances, it's probably fine most of the time.

Just cause you didnt break your hard drive being stupid doent mean you couldntve. You catch a hdd in a write cycle or a seek cycle and you could screw some stuff up bad

[Dedayog]

10 minutes ago, dani.petro said:

Forgot to mention that this sound happens in the hdd even when shutting down the pc with the ext hdd on.

Yeah, sort of an important piece of info there.

 

/smh

[Agall]

3 minutes ago, Helpful Tech Witch said:

Just cause you didnt break your hard drive being stupid doent mean you couldntve. You catch a hdd in a write cycle or a seek cycle and you could screw some stuff up bad

I agree, just like how dropping your phone on the carpet 99% of the time is fine until that one scenario where there's something other than carpet, it hits a corner, and now your whole screen is shattered.

 

Probably fine, but couldn't be, who knows until OP tries. AKA do it the right way but hope nothing bad happens when you don't, which is usually the case.

 

No different than when Windows updates stalls and it tells you to "not turn off your PC" but you eventually have to or do mid update. Most the time its fine, but not every time.

[kokosnh]

I would like to just let you know, that usually, you have windows RAM write bufor enabled for USB external devices.

Even if windows is saying it transfer everything, that;is not entirely correct, and pulling any storage media in that moment, can lead to file system corruption.

And that sound you hear, is probably the platter braking (stopping), it's meant to prevent damage to the platters from gyroscope effect, when you move the HDD.

Do note, that any BF event (G-sense) in SMART, is enough to void your HDD warranty.

[dani.petro]

9 hours ago, Helpful Tech Witch said:

you should never just yank a spinning disk

 

9 hours ago, Agall said:

I've pulled out 100s of times without issues related to external HDD failure without 'safely ejecting' first.

 

Ejecting is a good idea, but not necessary, just like how not flicking the switch on your power supply to shut off your PC and instead letting it gracefully shutdown is a good idea, but not necessary. Always a small chance that feature was supposed to be used in that given scenario.

 

7 hours ago, kokosnh said:

I would like to just let you know, that usually, you have windows RAM write bufor enabled for USB external devices.

Even if windows is saying it transfer everything, that;is not entirely correct, and pulling any storage media in that moment, can lead to file system corruption.

And that sound you hear, is probably the platter braking (stopping), it's meant to prevent damage to the platters from gyroscope effect, when you move the HDD.

Do note, that any BF event (G-sense) in SMART, is enough to void your HDD warranty.

I seem to have found out the issue. The issue is happening only on the front panel connectors when I shut down without safely ejecting. If I yank it out then it happens all the time (It's a different story but I won't try it again though). 

The front panel usb might have issue where it loses power suddenly and causes the hdd to not shut down properly, also faced issues sometimes with usb pendrives not being detected.

 

The sound is like this @9s mark.