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Hello,

 

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I have tried everything I know to fix. My thoughts are either bad motherboard or psu. I have been experiencing some issues when it comes to games but my benchmarks are average and even above average when I run them. Frame drops and low fps compared to other systems of the same components. For example, my friend of the same cpu/gpu has been getting a constant 400 fps in CS2 at max settings, but I get anywhere from 200-300 with drops to 160 happening. I have tried XPM, DDU, power mode, mem86, and even a windows wipe. I'm desperate as it affects my gameplay. Even in Fortnite on performance mode and all low settings I am getting 100-160 fps with drops. No thermal throttling even though temps are higher than normal. Just bought fans but I don't think temps are the problem. 

 

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8 minutes ago, ripRez said:

No thermal throttling even though temps are higher than normal. Just bought fans but I don't think temps are the problem.

What are temps under load?

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Common build advice: 1) Buy the cheapest (well reviewed) motherboard that has the features you need. Paying more typically only gets you features you won’t use. 2) only get as much RAM as you need, getting more won’t (typically) make your PC faster. 3) While I recommend getting an NVMe drive, you don’t need to splurge for an expensive drive with DRam cache, DRamless drives are fine for gamers. 4) paying for looks is fine, just don’t break the bank. 5) Tower coolers are usually good enough, unless you go top tier Intel or plan on OCing. 6) OCing is a dead meme, you probably shouldn’t bother. 7) "Bottlenecks" rarely matter and "Future-proofing" is a myth. 8) AIOs don't noticably improve performance past 240mm.

 

useful websites: https://www.productchart.com - helps compare monitors, https://uk.pcpartpicker.com - makes designing a PC easier.

 

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2 minutes ago, will0hlep said:

What are temps under load?

GPU is a stable 80C but CPU is maxing at 80-90C which I read isn't uncommon for 11900kf

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5 minutes ago, ripRez said:

GPU is a stable 80C

I think your GPU isn't being adaquately cooled (NVidia cards thottle at 80 (I belive, although it depends what sensor reached 80)). Have you tried playing with the side panel off? if performance improves with the side panel off then we've found the issue.

 

Do you live in a hot climate?

Can you send a picture of the inside of your machine (so I can see your airflow situation)?

I might be experienced, but I'm human and I do make mistakes. Expand for common PC building advice, a short bio and a list of my components and other tech. I edit my messages after sending them alot, please refresh before posting your reply. Please try to be clear and specific, you'll get a better answer. Please remember to mark solutions once you have the information you need.

 

Common build advice: 1) Buy the cheapest (well reviewed) motherboard that has the features you need. Paying more typically only gets you features you won’t use. 2) only get as much RAM as you need, getting more won’t (typically) make your PC faster. 3) While I recommend getting an NVMe drive, you don’t need to splurge for an expensive drive with DRam cache, DRamless drives are fine for gamers. 4) paying for looks is fine, just don’t break the bank. 5) Tower coolers are usually good enough, unless you go top tier Intel or plan on OCing. 6) OCing is a dead meme, you probably shouldn’t bother. 7) "Bottlenecks" rarely matter and "Future-proofing" is a myth. 8) AIOs don't noticably improve performance past 240mm.

 

useful websites: https://www.productchart.com - helps compare monitors, https://uk.pcpartpicker.com - makes designing a PC easier.

 

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I'm a PhD student working in the fields of reinforcement learning and traffic control. PCs are one of my hobbies and I've built many PCs and performed upgrades on a few laptops (for myself, friends and family). My personal computers include 3 windows (10/11) machines and a TrueNAS server (and I'm looking to move to dual booting Linux Mint on my main machine in future). While I believe I have an decent amount of experience in spec’ing, building and troubleshooting computers, keep in mind I'm not an expert or a professional and I make mistakes.

 

Favourite Games of all time: World of Tanks, Runescape, Subnautica, Metroid (Fusion and Dread), Spyro: Year of the Dragon (Original and Reignited Trilogy), Crash Bash, Mario Kart Wii

 

Main PC: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/will0hlep/saved/NByp3C

 

Secondary PC: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/will0hlep/saved/cc9K7P

 

TrueNAS Server: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/will0hlep/saved/m37w3C

 

Laptop: 13.4" ASUS GZ301ZE ROG Flow Z13, WUXGA 120Hz, i9 12900H, 16GB DDR5, 1TB NVMe SSD, 4GB RTX 3050 Ti, TB4, Win11 Home, Used with: 2*ThinkPad Universal Thunderbolt 4 Dock, Logitech G603, Logitech G502 Hero, Logitech K120, Logitech G915 TKL, Xbox Elite Wireless Controller Series 2, Logitech G PRO X Gaming-Headset (with Blue Icepop in Black), {specs to be updated: two monitors}

 

Other: LTT Screwdriver, LTT Stubby Screwdriver, IFIXIT Pro Tech Toolkit, Playstation 1 SCPH-102, Playstation 2 SCPH-30003, Gameboy Micro Silver OXY-001, Nintendo Wii U WUP-001(03), Playstation 4 CUH-1116A, Nintendo Switch OLED HEG-001, Yamaha RX-A4A Black AV Receiver, Monitor Audio Radius (4*90s, 1*200s, 2*270s, 1*380s), TP-Link TL-SG105-M2, Netgear GS308, IPhone 14 Pro Max 128GB Space Black, Secretlab TITAN Evo (Black SoftWeave Plus Fabric), 2*CyberPower BR1200ELCD-UK BRICs Series, Samsung 40" ES6800 Series 6 SMART 3D FHD LED TV, UGREEN USB 3.2 Gen 2 10Gbps M.2 NVMe SSD Enclosure, SABRENT 3.5" SATA drive docking station

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27 minutes ago, will0hlep said:

I think your GPU isn't being adaquately cooled (NVidia cards thottle at 80 (I belive, although it depends what sensor reached 80)). Have you tried playing with the side panel off? if performance improves with the side panel off then we've found the issue.

 

Do you live in a hot climate?

Can you send a picture of the inside of your machine (so I can see your airflow situation)?

Taking panel off does not help much, maybe 5-10 fps. GPU averages 75 under load gaming with it off. Im in a little colder than room temp environment. I linked my PC and my stats in Cyberpunk benchmark. Should add that it has restarted randomly, like 2 times within the last week at random times.

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1 hour ago, ripRez said:

Hello,

 

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I have tried everything I know to fix. My thoughts are either bad motherboard or psu. I have been experiencing some issues when it comes to games but my benchmarks are average and even above average when I run them. Frame drops and low fps compared to other systems of the same components. For example, my friend of the same cpu/gpu has been getting a constant 400 fps in CS2 at max settings, but I get anywhere from 200-300 with drops to 160 happening.

 

 

Your friend is lying then. Right now in CS2 it's impossible to not drop to mid 100FPS with that CPU. When there are molotoves and smokes flying around there are massive FPS drops on every CPU right now. I guarantee you he does not have stable 400FPS. The game performance is quite inconsistent right now.

 

What you're getting sounds about right.

 

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5 minutes ago, WereCat said:

Your friend is lying then. Right now in CS2 it's impossible to not drop to mid 100FPS with that CPU. When there are molotoves and smokes flying around there are massive FPS drops on every CPU right now. I guarantee you he does not have stable 400FPS. The game performance is quite inconsistent right now.

 

What you're getting sounds about right.

 

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That makes more sense haha. Still doesn't explain the terrible performance in other games such as Fortnite and Cyberpunk.

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10 minutes ago, ripRez said:

That makes more sense haha. Still doesn't explain the terrible performance in other games such as Fortnite and Cyberpunk.

IDK about Fortnite as I don't play it and the performance in that game changes wildly after big patches. But what about Cyberpunk? Can you be more specific? You didn't even mention it in the OP.

At what exact settings and resolution?

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5 minutes ago, WereCat said:

IDK about Fortnite as I don't play it and the performance in that game changes wildly after big patches. But what about Cyberpunk? Can you be more specific? You didn't even mention it in the OP.

At what exact settings and resolution?

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2 minutes ago, ripRez said:

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Pretty f**d up settings : 1080p LOW WITH FRS2 on a NVidia 3080Ti card ???? 😄

Try serious settings : High no FSR no RT no DLSS then add RT for a second run

 

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8 minutes ago, PDifolco said:

Pretty f**d up settings : 1080p LOW WITH FRS2 on a NVidia 3080Ti card ???? 😄

Try serious settings : High no FSR no RT no DLSS then add RT for a second run

 

I don't understand how they're all around the same fps

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2 minutes ago, ripRez said:

I don't understand how they're all around the same fps

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Pls remove f***g FSR ...makes 0 sense on a 3080Ti

And I suppose you're CPU bound at those framerates

 

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@ripRez as PDifolco said, you're most likely CPU bound so increasing GPU quality should not impact your performance or very minimally. There is no reason to use FSR and you should increase the quality settings.

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37 minutes ago, WereCat said:

@ripRez as PDifolco said, you're most likely CPU bound so increasing GPU quality should not impact your performance or very minimally. There is no reason to use FSR and you should increase the quality settings.

Is there anything I can do? I should be able to run atleast Fort wayyyy better with the cpu I have 

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