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Hi,

 

I need an easy cooling solution for a 5800X. I have a NH-D14 from Noctua and this doesn't seem to be enough. I need a new easy to install solution that cooles the processor down as much as possible. So I can sleep at night. IDLE temps of 30 ° C and max of 70 ° C are the goal. 

Please no custom water block solutions or something that would require setting up a whole water cooling system. I have 2 left hands when it comes to this.

Just a very easy to install solution. Thanks!

 

 

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27 minutes ago, P3rform3r said:

Hi,

 

I need an easy cooling solution for a 5800X. I have a NH-D14 from Noctua and this doesn't seem to be enough. I need a new easy to install solution that cooles the processor down as much as possible. So I can sleep at night. IDLE temps of 30 ° C and max of 70 ° C are the goal. 

Please no custom water block solutions or something that would require setting up a whole water cooling system. I have 2 left hands when it comes to this.

Just a very easy to install solution. Thanks!

Idle 30C on a 5800X seems unrealistic/unachievable without doing something utterly insane.

 

What are the current tempritures?

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1 minute ago, will0hlep said:

Idle 30C on a 5800X seems unrealistic/unachievable without doing something utterly insane.

Not at all. Absolutely believable. Let me guess.. you have an AIO 🙂

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1 minute ago, freeagent said:

Not at all. Absolutely believable. Let me guess.. you have an AIO 🙂

My AIO is only a recent addition and only on 1 of my machines. None of my AMD machines Idle at less than 40-45.

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28 minutes ago, P3rform3r said:

Hi,

 

I need an easy cooling solution for a 5800X. I have a NH-D14 from Noctua and this doesn't seem to be enough. I need a new easy to install solution that cooles the processor down as much as possible. So I can sleep at night. IDLE temps of 30 ° C and max of 70 ° C are the goal. 

Please no custom water block solutions or something that would require setting up a whole water cooling system. I have 2 left hands when it comes to this.

Just a very easy to install solution. Thanks!

 

 

Can you give us a bit more information as to why the NH-D14 is failing you? The 5800x could run hot under full load, around 90c. But your current cooler should be plenty enpugh for it. I wouldn't buy a new one until I figure out what's going on first. Maybe you just need some voltage adjustments.

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35 minutes ago, P3rform3r said:

Hi,

 

I need an easy cooling solution for a 5800X. I have a NH-D14 from Noctua and this doesn't seem to be enough. I need a new easy to install solution that cooles the processor down as much as possible. So I can sleep at night. IDLE temps of 30 ° C and max of 70 ° C are the goal. 

Please no custom water block solutions or something that would require setting up a whole water cooling system. I have 2 left hands when it comes to this.

Just a very easy to install solution. Thanks!

 

 

A graphene thermal pad like the Thermal Grizzly KryoSheet would probably solve your issue when paired with a PBO offset of negative 20.

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Idle temp literally does not matter as long as your max load temp is withing spec.

Actually it's (in theory) better to have high idle temp and small difference between idle and load temp as you're not thermal stressing the physical properties of the silicon by heating it up and cooling it down constantly.

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You want it as cool as it can so it can maintain boost. You don't want a high idle temp lol.

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What is your case?

 

Do not care about idle temps they dont really matter

 

Also te 5800x simply just runs HOT and anything under 95c is totally fine.

 

70c full load basically means you need to undervolt even on a custom loop I recently did the 5800x BARELY stays under 65c with a undervolt. Not due to lack of trying since its 2x 360mm thick rads + p12 fans and all that.

 

 

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37 minutes ago, Jon-Slow said:

Can you give us a bit more information as to why the NH-D14 is failing you?

D14 was good in its day, I had one. But there is no place for it today.

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Just now, jaslion said:

Also te 5800x simply just runs HOT and anything under 95c is totally fine.

Everyone says that about the 58X3D too.

 

Just think, this is a stock CPU he has, very easy to cool.

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24 minutes ago, freeagent said:

Everyone says that about the 58X3D too.

 

Just think, this is a stock CPU he has, very easy to cool.

It is not.

 

Like not at all.

 

The 5800x is a singe ccx chip basically being blasted to hell and back to run so fast. Pretty much the heatspreader wasnt designed for this so its a unique case of powerfull single chip cpu deviating from the ryzen norm causing it to run hotter.

 

The 5800x3d is all that + a extra cache layer on top of the ccx which means even more resistance of heat transfer to the heatspreader.

 

Pbo negative 15 + max allowed undervolt = 5800x3d at 4.4ghz stable at 75c on a dual 420 rad lian li custom loop pc from last month.

 

Its legit just normal for this thing and its meant to just run hot as it willeasily do full power in its normal 95c well safe limit

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3 minutes ago, jaslion said:

It is not.

 

Like not at all.

 

The 5800x is a singe ccx chip basically being blasted to hell and back to run so fast. Pretty much the heatspreader wasnt designed for this so its a unique case of powerfull single chip cpu deviating from the ryzen norm causing it to run hotter.

 

The 5800x3d is all that + a extra cache layer on top of the ccx which means even more resistance of heat transfer to the heatspreader.

 

Pbo negative 15 + max allowed undervolt = 5800x3d at 4.4ghz stable at 75c on a dual 420 rad lian li custom loop pc from last month.

 

Its legit just normal for this thing and its meant to just run hot as it willeasily do full power in its normal 95c well safe limit

I know my signature says 5900X, but I also have an X3D, so I am not just talking out of my butt 😄

 

Don't make me install it to show you how cool it runs 😄

 

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Too late, gonna install it, be back soon 👍

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15 minutes ago, freeagent said:

I know my signature says 5900X, but I also have an X3D, so I am not just talking out of my butt 😄

 

Don't make me install it to show you how cool it runs 😄

 

Edit:

 

Too late, gonna install it, be back soon 👍

Make sure to turn pbo and all off 😛

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13 minutes ago, jaslion said:

Make sure to turn pbo and all off 😛

Why?

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2 hours ago, P3rform3r said:

Hi,

 

I need an easy cooling solution for a 5800X. I have a NH-D14 from Noctua and this doesn't seem to be enough. I need a new easy to install solution that cooles the processor down as much as possible. So I can sleep at night. IDLE temps of 30 ° C and max of 70 ° C are the goal. 

Please no custom water block solutions or something that would require setting up a whole water cooling system. I have 2 left hands when it comes to this.

Just a very easy to install solution. Thanks!

 

 

Follow the instructions about PBO and undervolting. If you overclock, be conservative.  Post before and after benchmarks here.

 

If that doesn't help, turn off PBO, don't overclock and just undervolt it. Again, benchmarks before and after.

 

If that doesn't help, repaste the CPU and tighten it per the manufacturer's instructions. Again, post benchmarks if you have to do this. 

 

I really feel you will probably need a better cooler. Take a look at the size constraints of your case, mobo, RAM, etc. Look at TR PS120, PA120, FC120, DC AK620, AG620, bq! DRP4, NH-D15 and other top-end coolers.

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I had this conversation with a guy at OCN already. He had a nice loop and I was getting better temps. If I disable PBO I might as well overclock it to the 4600-4700MHz range, temps will be the same.

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Just running some OCCT give me about 10 minutes..

 

Ready for some heartbreak?

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Right, my flaming hot 5800X3D 🤘

 

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47 minutes ago, freeagent said:

Just running some OCCT give me about 10 minutes..

 

Ready for some heartbreak?

 

20 minutes ago, freeagent said:

Right, my flaming hot 5800X3D 🤘

 

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Isn't that for @jaslion?

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It was.. I figured he would have been waiting for me 😄

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1 hour ago, A_DeafMute said:

I don't know what you are trying to prove with a stress test that doesn't max out the power limit, let alone pull any meaningful amount of current.

Well, it is an X3D.. Who runs their X3D at 140w PPT loads? I could have shown you mine at 80c with that load, but the CPU turns my system into a Dell, no fun.

 

Not sure why you are even posting in this thread, unless it was just to call me out.  Great first post 🖕

 

🙂

 

Here is 245w from my 5900X instead.

 

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4 minutes ago, A_DeafMute said:

Only posting because you were clearly using a bad/misleading example. As for your 5900X, I don't know what that has to do with the OP.

Your initial post was to be a dick. Nice try.

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35 minutes ago, A_DeafMute said:

Everyone has to start somewhere, and i was only pointing out a fault in your example of a 5800X3D running cool, which you yourself installed into a system just to "prove" your own point.

 

If you take it as me being a dick then i don't know what to say.

The point I proved is that X3D does not run hot lol. Besides, the last post in this thread was 5 days ago.. seems like a great time to add your 2c 😄

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9 minutes ago, A_DeafMute said:
You never know when someone comes looking through searching for "5X00(X) runs hot" or "Cooler for a 5X00(X), and just because the thread is "old" doesn't mean you can't add information to it.

We see that when someone posts in a 10 year old thread too 🙂

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