PC slow???

[loadingyard]

Hi there, for MONTHS I have had a problem with all my components, like every thing, and I have just lived with it till now. You see, I bought a new graphics card, a MSI RTX Ventus 2X OC and I genuinely thought I would have had good fps in all my games. I use it and its basically no better than my previous graphics card, a GTX 1050. It might be better at handling SOME visually heavy games, like Rust and thats it. Warzone isn't very good with it and I did everything to try fix it, I asked reddit and other stuff and yet nothing fixed it. Heres a list of things I did : 

1. Optimize pc

2. Reset the whole PC to get rid of old drivers.

3. Delete old graphics drivers and got the most recent ones.

4. I got new memory (1333mHz core on a DDR4 2666 RAM stick, dual channel)

 

I seem to only get on CSGO 141 fps on the maxed settings, and on my 1050 270 fps. Valorant also manages to get 270 fps comparing that to my 1050 250 fps. Rust also somehow only gets to 60 or 70 fps when my 1050 got like 130? Its so crazy and I have no idea. I could even show you all my HWINFO stuff. Could you give me tips on trying to fix it, I don't want to buy a new one since I don't have the money. I don't know if I even put it in the wrong place, like putting the PCIE cable somewhere wrong or something. I really need help. Here's my specs though :

 

1. MSI H310M PRO-VDH PLUS (MS-7C09)

2. Intel I5-9400F (6 Cores Used)

3. Corsair CMV16GX4M1A2666C18

4. MSI RTX 3060 VENTUS 2X OC

5. PATRIOT P210 1TB

 

Heres photos of all the stuff on HWINFO, please check if it should be correct since I don't know what a lot of it is.

[TatamiMatt]

11 minutes ago, loadingyard said:

Hi there, for MONTHS I have had a problem with all my components, like every thing, and I have just lived with it till now. You see, I bought a new graphics card, a MSI RTX Ventus 2X OC and I genuinely thought I would have had good fps in all my games. I use it and its basically no better than my previous graphics card, a GTX 1050. It might be better at handling SOME visually heavy games, like Rust and thats it. Warzone isn't very good with it and I did everything to try fix it, I asked reddit and other stuff and yet nothing fixed it. Heres a list of things I did : 

1. Optimize pc

2. Reset the whole PC to get rid of old drivers.

3. Delete old graphics drivers and got the most recent ones.

4. I got new memory (1333mHz core on a DDR4 2666 RAM stick, dual channel)

 

I seem to only get on CSGO 141 fps on the maxed settings, and on my 1050 270 fps. Valorant also manages to get 270 fps comparing that to my 1050 250 fps. Rust also somehow only gets to 60 or 70 fps when my 1050 got like 130? Its so crazy and I have no idea. I could even show you all my HWINFO stuff. Could you give me tips on trying to fix it, I don't want to buy a new one since I don't have the money. I don't know if I even put it in the wrong place, like putting the PCIE cable somewhere wrong or something. I really need help. Here's my specs though :

 

1. MSI H310M PRO-VDH PLUS (MS-7C09)

2. Intel I5-9400F (6 Cores Used)

3. Corsair CMV16GX4M1A2666C18

4. MSI RTX 3060 VENTUS 2X OC

5. PATRIOT P210 1TB

 

Heres photos of all the stuff on HWINFO, please check if it should be correct since I don't know what a lot of it is.

At a quick glance, most things seem to be running okay, but your RAM is awfully slow, like, running at half the speed it should, im assuming you have 4x8GB from what it looks like (could you confirm?) but the clock speed is 1333MHz, where the RAM itself is 2666MHz

[loadingyard]

3 minutes ago, TatamiMatt said:

At a quick glance, most things seem to be running okay, but your RAM is awfully slow, like, running at half the speed it should, im assuming you have 4x8GB from what it looks like (could you confirm?) but the clock speed is 1333MHz, where the RAM itself is 2666MHz

But I checked online and it said that 1333Mhz is normal for a 2666Mhz RAM and I have a 2x16GB ram kit.

[TatamiMatt]

5 minutes ago, loadingyard said:

But I checked online and it said that 1333Mhz is normal for a 2666Mhz RAM and I have a 2x16GB ram kit.

on checking, you could be right, does your task manager say 1333 or 2666 in the RAM performance?

 

[Poinkachu]

8 minutes ago, loadingyard said:

But I checked online and it said that 1333Mhz is normal for a 2666Mhz RAM and I have a 2x16GB ram kit.

It is.

DDR = Double Data Rate

So it's doubled. 1333x2 = 2666

 

All those fps count you gave is using the same settings for both the 1050 and 3060 ?

[Mojo-Jojo]

Your best bet imho is to run CPU-Z and GPU-Z and check the reports while gaming. They will tell you if something (and what) is limiting your performance. e.g. power constraints, thermals or otherwise.

[Tetras]

Can you run a CPU oriented benchmark and a GPU oriented benchmark and report back your scores please?

 

E.g. Cinebench, Unigine benchmarks, 3D Mark.

 

Can you report hwinfo's sensor data from a gaming session?

 

29 minutes ago, loadingyard said:

 

I seem to only get on CSGO 141 fps on the maxed settings, and on my 1050 270 fps. Valorant also manages to get 270 fps comparing that to my 1050 250 fps. Rust also somehow only gets to 60 or 70 fps when my 1050 got like 130? Its so crazy and I have no idea. I could even show you all my HWINFO stuff. Could you give me tips on trying to fix it, I don't want to buy a new one since I don't have the money. I don't know if I even put it in the wrong place, like putting the PCIE cable somewhere wrong or something. I really need help. Here's my specs though :

I assume you're certain that the settings were identical and that the games didn't change anything?

[191x7]

Can you run 3DMark?

[loadingyard]

30 minutes ago, TatamiMatt said:

on checking, you could be right, does your task manager say 1333 or 2666 in the RAM performance?

 

2667Mhz

[loadingyard]

30 minutes ago, Poinkachu said:

It is.

DDR = Double Data Rate

So it's doubled. 1333x2 = 2666

 

All those fps count you gave is using the same settings for both the 1050 and 3060 ?

theyre roughly a 30fps diff between tthem, I dont want to put in my 1050 cause then I will have to redo all my drivers and settings

[loadingyard]

28 minutes ago, Mojo-Jojo said:

Your best bet imho is to run CPU-Z and GPU-Z and check the reports while gaming. They will tell you if something (and what) is limiting your performance. e.g. power constraints, thermals or otherwise.

Ill try it ig, ive just been using MSI afterburner and  rivatuner

[Poinkachu]

1 minute ago, loadingyard said:

theyre roughly a 30fps diff between tthem, I dont want to put in my 1050 cause then I will have to redo all my drivers and settings

Which one gives higher fps ?

Because in your opening post you said in CS the 3060 puts out 141fps on max settings, while the 1050 gave you 270fps.

Was it on the same graphical settings, or ?

 

 

[loadingyard]

33 minutes ago, Tetras said:

Can you run a CPU oriented benchmark and a GPU oriented benchmark and report back your scores please?

 

E.g. Cinebench, Unigine benchmarks, 3D Mark.

 

Can you report hwinfo's sensor data from a gaming session?

 

I assume you're certain that the settings were identical and that the games didn't change anything?

 

The settings arent completely identical, like Valorant and CSGO are identical, yet Rust is only 3 quarters identical. Also is it normal for my computer to use my CPU for graphics? Or is it using my CPU for graphics.

[loadingyard]

16 minutes ago, Poinkachu said:

Which one gives higher fps ?

Because in your opening post you said in CS the 3060 puts out 141fps on max settings, while the 1050 gave you 270fps.

Was it on the same graphical settings, or ?

 

 

Id say 1050 gives me way more performance in less graphically dependant games, yet some higher quality games favor my 3060.

[loadingyard]

https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/100187256?

 

heres more information mainly for @191x7 and @Tetras

[Tetras]

4 minutes ago, loadingyard said:

https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/100187256?

 

heres more information mainly for @191x7 and @Tetras

The sensor results:

 

Your CPU appears to be performing normally, it has the right clocks and voltage and the power usage is in the right ballpark. The temperatures are high, but they're not throttling, so I think you're good here.

 

Your GPU clocks appear to be normal and the temperatures are fine, but the power usage and load % are rather low.

 

That said, if I google Timespy for a 3060, I get a Guru3D review and your GPU score seems to be consistent with their score.

 

4 hours ago, loadingyard said:

The settings arent completely identical, like Valorant and CSGO are identical, yet Rust is only 3 quarters identical. Also is it normal for my computer to use my CPU for graphics? Or is it using my CPU for graphics.

Hmm, which settings are not identical? The 1/4 that are not identical could make quite a big difference.

 

Using your CPU for graphics? I'm not sure what you mean. It is possible if you plugged the display cable into the motherboard instead of the graphics card, however, your CPU is an -F edition and they have no graphics output (in other words, unless your CPU is reported incorrectly, then this should be impossible).

 

I assume that your Windows power plan is set to balanced or maximum performance and you don't have any software installed that manages similar settings, like motherboard software, monitoring software?

 

I also assume you don't have v-sync or adaptive enabled and you didn't change the monitor, or the monitor's resolution?

[sabgog]

Might be a stupid question but are you sure you have your display output connected to your GPU and not your motherboard?

 

[191x7]

25 minutes ago, loadingyard said:

https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/100187256?

 

heres more information mainly for @191x7 and @Tetras

Your Graphics Score is at 7000, and the average graphics score of 3060 cards in reviews is near 9000. 

 

What are your CPU and GPU temperatures under load?

[Tetras]

10 minutes ago, 191x7 said:

Your Graphics Score is at 7000, and the average graphics score of 3060 cards in reviews is near 9000. 

 

What are your CPU and GPU temperatures under load?

I thought the score was fine, but I think I was looking at the first one. The first result appears to be a lot higher than the second? 

[191x7]

6 minutes ago, Tetras said:

I thought the score was fine, but I think I was looking at the first one. The first result appears to be a lot higher than the second? 

I did not even notice he had posted a score earlier. That first one looks fine.

The second one is terrible.

 

And no, the 9400F has no integrated graphics. The letter F means no iGPU.

[loadingyard]

14 hours ago, Tetras said:

The sensor results:

 

Your CPU appears to be performing normally, it has the right clocks and voltage and the power usage is in the right ballpark. The temperatures are high, but they're not throttling, so I think you're good here.

 

Your GPU clocks appear to be normal and the temperatures are fine, but the power usage and load % are rather low.

 

That said, if I google Timespy for a 3060, I get a Guru3D review and your GPU score seems to be consistent with their score.

 

Hmm, which settings are not identical? The 1/4 that are not identical could make quite a big difference.

 

Using your CPU for graphics? I'm not sure what you mean. It is possible if you plugged the display cable into the motherboard instead of the graphics card, however, your CPU is an -F edition and they have no graphics output (in other words, unless your CPU is reported incorrectly, then this should be impossible).

 

I assume that your Windows power plan is set to balanced or maximum performance and you don't have any software installed that manages similar settings, like motherboard software, monitoring software?

 

I also assume you don't have v-sync or adaptive enabled and you didn't change the monitor, or the monitor's resolution?

The settings are pretty much identical, and I have tried different combos of graphics settings, yet none of them reach max performance.

 

I just read something somewhere on a discord server that asked someone if they had internally put one of their cables into their motherboard from the gpu, and I was just concerned.

 

It is max performance, not balanced, and I do not currently have any motherboard monitoring programs. 

 

I dont have v-sync or g-sync or NIS enabled. Although could my monitor maybe be throttling it or even my HDMI?

[loadingyard]

14 hours ago, sabgog said:

Might be a stupid question but are you sure you have your display output connected to your GPU and not your motherboard?

 

As said in a earlier post, my CPU cannot even output any display.

[loadingyard]

14 hours ago, 191x7 said:

Your Graphics Score is at 7000, and the average graphics score of 3060 cards in reviews is near 9000. 

 

What are your CPU and GPU temperatures under load?

I believe it is around 60°C for my gpu, and SOMETIMES my cpu gets insanely high, like 85°C - 95°C

[191x7]

3 minutes ago, loadingyard said:

I believe it is around 60°C for my gpu, and SOMETIMES my cpu gets insanely high, like 85°C - 95°C

When was the last time you replaced the thermal paste on the CPU?

 

Run Prime95 stress test SmallFTT or the CPU test in OCCT, and monitor the temperatures.

The CPU might be throttling.

[loadingyard]

57 minutes ago, 191x7 said:

When was the last time you replaced the thermal paste on the CPU?

 

Run Prime95 stress test SmallFTT or the CPU test in OCCT, and monitor the temperatures.

The CPU might be throttling.

I replaced it when i got my new motherboard around like 4 - 5 years ago. 

 

Ill test my CPU later on, I only get back in around 3 hours.