Posted September 13, 2023 Budget (including currency): 2500 USD Country: Poland Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: AutoCad, Revit, Photoshop, Blender (sometimes sketchup + lumion (non ray tracing version)), also games Other details : I,m going to start my own architecture studio. I want the platform to be upgradable in the future. I'm not new to tech-related stuff, but this topic is making my head hurt and I need your opinion. Trying to minmax price and performance. I will probably use 2 monitors with this setup, that are not included in build. If you have a monitor that you can recommend please do. Also, going nvidia instead of radeon because of blender Proposed build: PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Y97q34 CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 7900X 4.7 GHz 12-Core Processor ($410.59 @ Amazon) CPU Cooler: be quiet! Pure Loop 360 Liquid CPU Cooler ($119.99 @ Amazon) Motherboard: MSI MAG X670E TOMAHAWK WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard ($358.96 @ MemoryC) Memory: G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory ($194.99 @ Amazon) Storage: Samsung 980 Pro 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($59.99 @ Amazon) Video Card: PNY XLR8 Gaming VERTO EPIC-X RGB OC GeForce RTX 4080 16 GB Video Card ($1099.99 @ Amazon) Case: Jonsbo D40 ATX Mid Tower Case ($122.00 @ Amazon) Power Supply: MSI MAG A850GL PCIE5 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($139.99 @ Amazon) Total: $2506.50 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available As stated in the tile, build mainly for work and sometimes games. There are 2 things about this build that are bothering me, and its hard for me to find answears for them. Firstly, i want to be able to upgrade this pc in the future, so the question is what mobo should i choose. After doing some research, i basically found out that for my needs B650E chipset is enough, but i'm not confident if it will be a good choice for a future ryzen 9 9000 X(so in the build i chose more expensive option). Second thing is, if i get a subsidy for opening a new bussines i will be able to buy 7950x version, but i don't know if 4 cores justify 33% price increase. I'm moving from i7-7700k and i have to say that cpu is still doing well, but more complex models are starting to become troublesome. Thanks in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted September 13, 2023 Are you doing CPU rendering? 80+ ratings certify electrical efficiency. Not quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted September 13, 2023 If you are doing a lot of rendering with the Jonsbo D40 it may not be a good choice if you saw the thermal result reviews compared to many other cases. It looks like 3x120 fans can be mounted on the bottom, but not sure if a 360 will fit properly. Any AIO mounted on the bottom will be blowing hot CPU air directly at the graphics card. I do like the non standard layout, but the Jonsbo cases I see available cost way too much. If I were to use that case I would be using a air cooler and a lower core count CPU. It might be fine for doing creative content where you actually have to manually do things since that probably won't generate intense load on the CPU or GPU. CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 3950X Motherboard: MSI X570 Gaming Edge Wifi Case: Deepcool Maxtrexx 70 GPU: RTX 3090 RAM: Corsair Vengeance LPX 3x16GB 3200 MHz PSU: Super Flower 850W Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted September 14, 2023 Author 7 hours ago, brob said: Are you doing CPU rendering? At the moment cpu rendering is not a part of my workflow, because right now for my renders i'm using Lumion 12.5, which is using gpu only. As in the post i'm aiming to swap to blender, but I do not plan to render much witch cpu, after investing so much money in 4080 and all those ray-tracing goodies. So all those extra cores will be mainly used for opening few softwares at once and handling compllicated geometry or models containg a lot of information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted September 14, 2023 Author 6 hours ago, alyen said: If you are doing a lot of rendering with the Jonsbo D40 it may not be a good choice if you saw the thermal result reviews compared to many other cases. It looks like 3x120 fans can be mounted on the bottom, but not sure if a 360 will fit properly. Any AIO mounted on the bottom will be blowing hot CPU air directly at the graphics card. I do like the non standard layout, but the Jonsbo cases I see available cost way too much. If I were to use that case I would be using a air cooler and a lower core count CPU. It might be fine for doing creative content where you actually have to manually do things since that probably won't generate intense load on the CPU or GPU. Good point, the fact that I wanted to go with a smaller case was mainly because of that mini itx pc building trend on YT that i discovered lately. I am also sometimes in need to move with my pc for a short period of time. I guess after your tips i will just go with airflow oriented case. At the moment i'm using https://www.silentiumpc.com/pl/product/aquarius-x70w/ which is really bulky and i don't like it. Do you think this one will do ?https://pcpartpicker.com/product/tdHqqs/jonsbo-d41-mesh-atx-mid-tower-case-d41-mesh-black ? Or should i choose something the size of asus tuf gaming case? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted September 14, 2023 PCPartPicker Part List CPU: Intel Core i7-13700K 3.4 GHz 16-Core Processor ($375.99 @ Amazon) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 chromax.black 82.52 CFM CPU Cooler ($119.95 @ Amazon) Motherboard: MSI PRO Z790-A WIFI ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($219.99 @ B&H) Memory: Corsair Vengeance 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL36 Memory ($94.99 @ Amazon) Storage: Crucial P5 Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($97.99 @ Amazon) Video Card: Asus TUF GAMING GeForce RTX 4080 16 GB Video Card ($1199.99 @ B&H) Case: Fractal Design Torrent ATX Mid Tower Case ($199.99 @ B&H) Power Supply: Corsair RM1000e (2023) 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($179.99 @ Amazon) Total: $2488.88 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-09-14 01:12 EDT-0400 Here are some benchmarks to help: To be an expert is to know more about less. 2014 Build --> FX 8350 4.7GHz {} ASRock Fatal1ty 990FX Killer {} Reference GTX 980 4GB {} 2x4GB 1866MHz HyperX {} Seagate 2TB 7200rpm {} 840 EVO 120GB {} XFX PRO850W {} Noctua NH D14 {} Fractal Define R4 White Windowed 2018 Build --> Ryzen 7 2700X {} ASRock Fatal1ty X470 Gaming K4 {} Gigabyte RTX 2070 8GB {} 2x8GB HX Fury 3200MHz {} Toshiba P300 2TB {} Kingston 480GB A1000 {} Corsair RM750W {} Enermax LIQMAX II 240 {} Fractal Focus G 2021 Build --> Ryzen 9 5900X {} ASUS ROG Strix X570-F GAMING {} ASUS GeForce RTX 3080Ti ROG STRIX OC {} Gigabyte AORUS RGB DDR4 32GB {} Kingston KC2500 M.2 2280 NVMe 2TB {} Seasonic FOCUS GX-1000 {} ASUS ROG Ryujin 240 AIO {} NYXT H710i Laptop --> ASUS ROG STRIX G713RS {} Ryzen 9 6900HX {} 32GB DDR5 {} RTX 3080 {} 1TB NVMe {} Win 11 Home Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted September 14, 2023 https://www.ceneo.pl/153915131 MSI B760 GAMING PLUS WIFI 749,00zł https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/B760-GAMING-PLUS-WIFI or ... https://www.ceneo.pl/145647015 MSI Pro Z790-A WiFi 1 054,44zł https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/PRO-Z790-A-WIFI https://www.ceneo.pl/146448713 Intel Core i7 13700 1 939,00zł https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/sku/230490/intel-core-i713700-processor-30m-cache-up-to-5-20-ghz/specifications.html https://www.ceneo.pl/145543105 Deepcool AG620 Dual Tower CPU Cooler 213,00zł https://www.deepcool.com/products/Cooling/cpuaircoolers/GAMMAXX-AG620-Dual-Tower-CPU-Cooler-1700-AM5/2022/15900.shtml or ... https://www.ceneo.pl/136023586 Deepcool AK620 Dual Tower CPU Cooler 326,00zł https://www.deepcool.com/products/Cooling/cpuaircoolers/AK620-High-Performance-CPU-Cooler-1700-AM5/2021/13067.shtml https://www.ceneo.pl/148493306 G.Skill Ripjaws S5 DDR5 6000Mhz 64GB (2x32GB) CL30 946,48zł https://www.gskill.com/product/165/377/1649234605/F5-6000J3040G32GX2-RS5K-F5-6000J3040G32GA2-RS5K https://www.ceneo.pl/145674618 MSI MPG A850G PCIE5 598,00zł https://www.msi.com/Power-Supply/MPG-A850G-PCIE5 https://www.ceneo.pl/138639073 Fractal Design Focus 2 ATX Mid Tower Case 320,00zł https://www.fractal-design.com/products/cases/focus/focus-2/black-solid/ Rear exhaust fan for that Fractal case. https://www.ceneo.pl/78016336 ARCTIC P12 PWM PST 120mm 4-Pin Case Fan 23,00zł or ... https://www.ceneo.pl/152637097 Lian Li Lancool 216 ATX Mid Tower Case 487,00zł https://lian-li.com/product/lancool-216/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted September 14, 2023 If you want a smaller case, mATX may be suitable. If you want AMD, and there is nothing wrong with that, the 7900X seems reasonable. Since the GPU will be used for rendering, there is little reason to consider the 7950X. PCPartPicker Part List CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 7900X 4.7 GHz 12-Core Processor ($410.59 @ Amazon) CPU Cooler: Deepcool AK620 68.99 CFM CPU Cooler ($63.99 @ Amazon) Motherboard: MSI PRO B650M-A WIFI Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard ($159.99 @ Newegg) Memory: G.Skill Flare X5 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory ($184.99 @ Newegg) Storage: Crucial P5 Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($97.99 @ Amazon) Video Card: PNY XLR8 Gaming VERTO EPIC-X RGB OC GeForce RTX 4080 16 GB Video Card ($1099.99 @ Amazon) Case: Asus Prime AP201 MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($69.98 @ Amazon) Power Supply: Corsair RM850e (2023) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($129.99 @ Newegg) Total: $2217.51 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-09-14 02:23 EDT-0400 80+ ratings certify electrical efficiency. Not quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted September 14, 2023 Author Thank you all for the builds you proposed. After all you wrote i will have to think if going amd is the correct decision, but beside that you helped me a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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