New PC for CAD/BIM + 3modeling/rendering

[Xter97]

Budget (including currency): 2500 USD

Country: Poland

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: AutoCad, Revit, Photoshop, Blender (sometimes sketchup + lumion (non ray tracing version)), also games

Other details : I,m going to start my own architecture studio. I want the platform to be upgradable in the future. I'm not new to tech-related stuff, but this topic is making my head hurt and I need your opinion. Trying to minmax price and performance. I will probably use 2 monitors with this setup, that are not included in build. If you have a monitor that you can recommend please do. Also, going nvidia instead of radeon because of blender

Proposed build:

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Y97q34

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 7900X 4.7 GHz 12-Core Processor  ($410.59 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: be quiet! Pure Loop 360 Liquid CPU Cooler  ($119.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: MSI MAG X670E TOMAHAWK WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard  ($358.96 @ MemoryC) 
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  ($194.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Samsung 980 Pro 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($59.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: PNY XLR8 Gaming VERTO EPIC-X RGB OC GeForce RTX 4080 16 GB Video Card  ($1099.99 @ Amazon) 
Case: Jonsbo D40 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($122.00 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: MSI MAG A850GL PCIE5 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($139.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $2506.50
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
 

As stated in the tile, build mainly for work and sometimes games. There are 2 things about this build that are bothering me, and its hard for me to find  answears for them. Firstly, i want to be able to upgrade this pc in the future, so the question is what mobo should i choose. After doing some research, i basically found out that for my needs B650E chipset is enough, but i'm not confident if it will be a good choice for a future ryzen 9 9000 X(so in the build i chose more expensive option). Second thing is, if i get a subsidy for opening a new bussines i will be able to buy 7950x version, but i don't know if 4 cores justify 33% price increase. I'm moving from i7-7700k and i have to say that cpu is still doing well, but more complex models are starting to become troublesome.

 

Thanks in advance.

[brob]

Are you doing CPU rendering?

[alyen]

If you are doing a lot of rendering with the Jonsbo D40 it may not be a good choice if you saw the thermal result reviews compared to many other cases. It looks like 3x120 fans can be mounted on the bottom, but not sure if a 360 will fit properly. Any AIO mounted on the bottom will be blowing hot CPU air directly at the graphics card. I do like the non standard layout, but the Jonsbo cases I see available cost way too much. If I were to use that case I would be using a air cooler and a lower core count CPU. It might be fine for doing creative content where you actually have to manually do things since that probably won't generate intense load on the CPU or GPU.

[Xter97]

7 hours ago, brob said:

Are you doing CPU rendering?

At the moment cpu rendering is not a part of my workflow, because right now for my renders i'm using Lumion 12.5, which is using gpu only. As in the post i'm aiming to swap to blender, but I do not plan to render much witch cpu, after investing so much money in 4080 and all those ray-tracing goodies. So all those extra cores will be mainly used for opening few softwares at once and handling compllicated geometry or models containg a lot of information.

[Xter97]

6 hours ago, alyen said:

If you are doing a lot of rendering with the Jonsbo D40 it may not be a good choice if you saw the thermal result reviews compared to many other cases. It looks like 3x120 fans can be mounted on the bottom, but not sure if a 360 will fit properly. Any AIO mounted on the bottom will be blowing hot CPU air directly at the graphics card. I do like the non standard layout, but the Jonsbo cases I see available cost way too much. If I were to use that case I would be using a air cooler and a lower core count CPU. It might be fine for doing creative content where you actually have to manually do things since that probably won't generate intense load on the CPU or GPU.

Good point, the fact that I wanted to go with a smaller case was mainly because of that mini itx pc building trend on YT that i discovered lately. I am also sometimes in need to move with my pc for a short period of time. I guess after your tips i will just go with airflow oriented case.  At the moment i'm using https://www.silentiumpc.com/pl/product/aquarius-x70w/ which is really bulky and i don't like it. Do you think this one will do ?https://pcpartpicker.com/product/tdHqqs/jonsbo-d41-mesh-atx-mid-tower-case-d41-mesh-black ? Or should i choose something the size of asus tuf gaming case?

[greeatzy]

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i7-13700K 3.4 GHz 16-Core Processor  ($375.99 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 chromax.black 82.52 CFM CPU Cooler  ($119.95 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: MSI PRO Z790-A WIFI ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  ($219.99 @ B&H) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL36 Memory  ($94.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Crucial P5 Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($97.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: Asus TUF GAMING GeForce RTX 4080 16 GB Video Card  ($1199.99 @ B&H) 
Case: Fractal Design Torrent ATX Mid Tower Case  ($199.99 @ B&H) 
Power Supply: Corsair RM1000e (2023) 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($179.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $2488.88
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-09-14 01:12 EDT-0400

 

Here are some benchmarks to help:

[Why_Me]

https://www.ceneo.pl/153915131  

MSI B760 GAMING PLUS WIFI 749,00zł  

 

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/B760-GAMING-PLUS-WIFI  

 

or ...

 

https://www.ceneo.pl/145647015   

MSI Pro Z790-A WiFi 1 054,44zł  

 

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/PRO-Z790-A-WIFI  

 

https://www.ceneo.pl/146448713   

Intel Core i7 13700 1 939,00zł

 

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/sku/230490/intel-core-i713700-processor-30m-cache-up-to-5-20-ghz/specifications.html

 

https://www.ceneo.pl/145543105   

Deepcool AG620 Dual Tower CPU Cooler 213,00zł  

 

https://www.deepcool.com/products/Cooling/cpuaircoolers/GAMMAXX-AG620-Dual-Tower-CPU-Cooler-1700-AM5/2022/15900.shtml 

 

or ...

 

https://www.ceneo.pl/136023586 

Deepcool AK620 Dual Tower CPU Cooler 326,00zł  

 

https://www.deepcool.com/products/Cooling/cpuaircoolers/AK620-High-Performance-CPU-Cooler-1700-AM5/2021/13067.shtml

 

https://www.ceneo.pl/148493306  

G.Skill Ripjaws S5 DDR5 6000Mhz 64GB (2x32GB) CL30 946,48zł

 

https://www.gskill.com/product/165/377/1649234605/F5-6000J3040G32GX2-RS5K-F5-6000J3040G32GA2-RS5K 

 

https://www.ceneo.pl/145674618  

MSI MPG A850G PCIE5 598,00zł  

 

https://www.msi.com/Power-Supply/MPG-A850G-PCIE5

 

https://www.ceneo.pl/138639073              

Fractal Design Focus 2 ATX Mid Tower Case 320,00zł  

 

https://www.fractal-design.com/products/cases/focus/focus-2/black-solid/  

 

Rear exhaust fan for that Fractal case.

https://www.ceneo.pl/78016336         

ARCTIC P12 PWM PST 120mm 4-Pin Case Fan 23,00zł 

 

or ...

 

https://www.ceneo.pl/152637097 

Lian Li Lancool 216 ATX Mid Tower Case 487,00zł 

 

https://lian-li.com/product/lancool-216/ 

 

[brob]

If you want a smaller case, mATX may be suitable. 

 

If you want AMD, and there is nothing wrong with that, the 7900X seems reasonable. Since the GPU will be used for rendering, there is little reason to consider the 7950X. 

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 7900X 4.7 GHz 12-Core Processor  ($410.59 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: Deepcool AK620 68.99 CFM CPU Cooler  ($63.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: MSI PRO B650M-A WIFI Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard  ($159.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: G.Skill Flare X5 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  ($184.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Crucial P5 Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($97.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: PNY XLR8 Gaming VERTO EPIC-X RGB OC GeForce RTX 4080 16 GB Video Card  ($1099.99 @ Amazon) 
Case: Asus Prime AP201 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($69.98 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: Corsair RM850e (2023) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($129.99 @ Newegg) 
Total: $2217.51
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-09-14 02:23 EDT-0400

[Xter97]

Thank you all for the builds you proposed. After all you wrote i will have to think if going amd is the correct decision, but beside that you helped me a lot.