Is it worth upgrading my 3080 to Rx 7800 XT?

[rpalmz46]

I have been wanting to upgrade my system in general for a little while now but was wondering if it's worth upgrading my 3080 or waiting longer and seeing if AMD's FSR 3 makes my 3080 hit my desired frame rate for 0$. I also was wondering about upgrading my cpu as I have 10700k, I seem to be CPU-bound in a few games notably Starfield at the moment. 

 

Are either of these things worth upgrading for me at the moment or should I wait and see what new stuff comes out? Everything I have found seems to indicate the RX 7800 XT is only marginally better, than the 3080 but I'm not sure as it has more VRAM and I am hitting VRAM cap on my 10GB 3080 occasionally

 

Thanks for any input.

[191x7]

RTX 4070 ~= RTX 3080

RX 7800XT  >= 4070

RX 7800XT RT ~= 3070Ti

 

Starfield runs a bit better on AMD GPU-s but a lot better on Intel CPU-s.

 

Are you on 1440p?

If not, upgrade to that.

 

And yes, a newer platform with a new CPU would do you good. Maybe should have priority over a GPU upgrade, the old i5 might be bottlenecking the 3080 already.

[rpalmz46]

7 minutes ago, 191x7 said:

RTX 4070 ~= RTX 3080

RX 7800XT  >= 4070

RX 7800XT RT ~= 3070Ti

 

Starfield runs a bit better on AMD GPU-s but a lot better on Intel CPU-s.

 

Are you on 1440p?

If not, upgrade to that.

 

And yes, a newer platform with a new CPU would do you good. Maybe should have priority over a GPU upgrade, the old i5 might be bottlenecking the 3080 already.

Its actually an i7-10700k, I bought it about 3 years ago I play at 1440p I was thinking of a new cpu upgrade and platform upgrade mobo, ram, and CPU but wasn't sure what to upgrade to. I was thinking of a 7800 x3d or an intel like 13900k.

 

I know those are both good. After doing some research on current cards the only GPU available for purchase that gives me the performance upgrade I want is a 4090 and that's too much money costs almost 3200$ in Canada, so I may just wait for the 50 series and see how the 5070 shakes out performance-wise.

 

I do see occasional bottlenecking of my 3080 in games like call of duty warzone.

[rpalmz46]

Though the price of a 13900k is quite steep 800$ just for the cpu is quite a lot maybe thinking Ryzen in that case Im not sure.

[191x7]

3 minutes ago, rpalmz46 said:

Though the price of a 13900k is quite steep 800$ just for the cpu is quite a lot maybe thinking Ryzen in that case Im not sure.

Why not a 13700K?

And you can get a good board for it that supports DDR4 so you can use the RAM you already have...

 

Although, AM5 might be better for the long run.

Consider the 7700X, more than enough for the 3080 and a good stop gap before a Ryzen 8000 or 9000 CPU.

 

 

[rpalmz46]

8 minutes ago, 191x7 said:

Why not a 13700K?

And you can get a good board for it that supports DDR4 so you can use the RAM you already have...

 

Although, AM5 might be better for the long run.

Consider the 7700X, more than enough for the 3080 and a good stop gap before a Ryzen 8000 or 9000 CPU.

 

 

Yeah, I looked at the 13600k and the 13700k on second thought If I was to buy one of the 13 series of intel I'd pick one of those two over the 13900k the extra performance is like 400$ for me for like what seems 5-8% maximum in games. 

 

Hmm, is it worth buying the x3d variants of Ryzen chips or not so much? So the am5 platform is going to carry forward into their new chips as well leaving me not having to upgrade mobo for the 8 or 9000 series is that what you are saying?

 

If that is the case Ryzen may not be a bad option for me single core performance of it over my 10700k is like 45% and overall seems to be about 22%. 

[WereCat]

keep the 3080[

[Dukesilver27-]

2 hours ago, rpalmz46 said:

I have 10700k, I seem to be CPU-bound in a few games notably Starfield at the moment. 

You sure? My 12400 does not even reach 100% usage with RX 6800 XT playing Starfield.

Even with FSR, I am GPU bound more than anything, constant 99% GPU usage everywhere, even with a very mediocre graphics on ultra settings.

Poor optimization, CP2077 looks a lot better and runs better.

[rpalmz46]

25 minutes ago, Dukesilver27- said:

You sure? My 12400 does not even reach 100% usage with RX 6800 XT playing Starfield.

Even with FSR, I am GPU bound more than anything, constant 99% GPU usage everywhere, even with a very mediocre graphics on ultra settings.

Poor optimization, CP2077 looks a lot better and runs better.

I am mostly hitting GPU-bound problems, yes but there are certain areas. cities with some high amount of rocks and stuff on planets where I hit 92% overall CPU usage. Also a game like Call of duty warzone I hit 60-70% MAXIMUM gpu usage since my CPU is unable to put out more frames otherwise it may just be badly optimized. Here is a screenshot showing some of my usages. 

[rpalmz46]

26 minutes ago, My poodle is not French said:

7900 XT minimum, around 3090 RT perf except for heavy hitters like Cyberpunk or Control.

 

Completely decimates in raster if you OC it.

I think the current crop of cards doesn't make much sense to upgrade for what I'd be getting and having to pay since a 4070-ti which is similar performance costs me 1200$ for basically no significant improvement besides frame generation which AMD is making theirs available to all cards in theory. I'm not paying 3k for a 4090 which is more in line with what I'd like to see for a performance improvement.

 

I may have to wait for 50 series of Nvidia cards and hope they don't break the bank as hard as the 4000 series did.

 

 

[rpalmz46]

Also unless I'm wrong here It's my understanding that a CPU doesn't have to reach 100% usage to be bottlenecking your GPU. As you can see in the above screenshot im only at overall package usage of 70% and its dropping my GPU usage.

[starsmine]

you have a top end one gen old card.

no

[rpalmz46]

6 minutes ago, starsmine said:

you have a top end one gen old card.

no

I don't understand what you mean at all the 3080 and 10700k released around the same time. Further explanation would be nice .

 

[Middcore]

4 minutes ago, rpalmz46 said:

I don't understand what you mean at all the 3080 and 10700k released around the same time. Further explanation would be nice .

 

 

He's saying there is no need to upgrade a card that is only one generation old and was near the top of its product stack.

 

Not sure what you think the CPU has to do with it. 

[rpalmz46]

14 minutes ago, Middcore said:

 

He's saying there is no need to upgrade a card that is only one generation old and was near the top of its product stack.

 

Not sure what you think the CPU has to do with it. 

I misinterpreted it, I thought it was I have a top-end one the one meaning CPU, and then an old gen card. Just misread it completely. It's why I was confused lol.

 

[Paul17]

I'm debating a 3090 vs 7900 XT (3090 or 3090 used) -  I can't decide.

I was looking at a used 7900 XTX too - but, they're rare to find and still somewhat expensive.   The 7900 XT would be new - the taxes brings the price up but at least I'd own it - no worries about RMA - and 2nd hand warranty stuff - which might be okay if brands go by the serial # or receipt - if there is one.

 

Gaming is not my priority though - although, I'd do some.   Recently, AMD cards - at least, RDNA 3 - are doing better for video editing - for Davinci Resolve, they're decent and Blender went from pure crap to - about 3080 ish performance if you use HIP-RT - in other words, AMD's version of 'Cuda' & ray tracing.   Although, that doesn't work in Linux yet.

 

Sorry to divert/digress or go on a tangent.... 

 

Prices *(in my case - Canada/CAD) - 3090 $700 CAD ; AMD 7900 XT - $1000 CAD*(probably more w/taxes).   

[WallacEngineering]

I would say no, RTX 3080 is a pretty damn powerful card and the RX 7800-XT barely matches last gen's 6800-XT because in reality the 7800 is a NON-XT - naming schemes suck this generation.

 

So basically its a very minor upgrade in most games. If you were going for the 7900-XT or XTX then maybe, but I just don't see the point in spending the cash on such a minimal upgrade.

 

Overall the 7800-XT is about 5-10% faster in most games and only in games that prefer AMD hardware do you see any meaningful differences. The only real difference overall is the VRAM which AMD has always been better at.

 

You should aim for a larger upgrade maybe next gen. I upgraded from the RX 5700-XT to the RX 7900-XTX, a full 125% faster. These bigger leaps in performance are a far better value. I would only star considering an upgrade if the performance jump is 50% or more.