amd vs intel AMD or Intel for a new setup? Well there we have a dilema

[jaydeltaa]

This is a pc for my best friend, not for me, I already own a combo (7800X3D with a Rx 7900 XTX).

I have a AMD 7800X3D but it has some shutter issues in WZ and other games. So I had recommended my best friend a i5 or i7. But... benchmarks continues to give AMD a very high difference.

But since Im not very happy with AMD CPU should he still get it?

 

Budget (including currency):  2500€

Country:  Portugal

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Warzone 2.0, GTA V, some other at 1440p

 

He has a monitor, 165Hz 1440p

Owns a Case ATX Montech AIR 903 Max 

Owns a GPU from XFX Radeon 7900 XTX Speedster MERC 310 Black Gaming 24GB GDDR6 

 

Its pure or mostly for gaming :S

 

AMD or Intel?

 

So the store give him 2 setups he can choose both +/- less same price, the i7 version would be almost the same price but with a higher PSU.

 

Setup 1
PSU ATX Seasonic Focus Gold GX 850W 80 Plus Gold Full Modular
Processador Intel Core i5-13600KF 14-Core 2.6GHz c/ Turbo 5.1GHz 24MB Skt1700
Motherboard ATX Asus ROG Strix Z790-H Gaming WiFi - PCDIGA 
RAM G.SKILL Trident Z5 RGB 32GB (2x16GB) DDR5-6400MHz CL32 Prateada
Water Cooler CPU Fractal Design Lumen S36 V2 RGB 360mm Preto

 

Setup 2

PSU ATX Seasonic Focus Gold GX 850W 80 Plus Gold Full Modular - PCDIGA - 139,90€
Processador AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 8-Core c/ Turbo 5.0GHz 104MB SktAM5 - PCDIGA - 486,90€
Motherboard ATX MSI MPG B650 Carbon WiFi - PCDIGA - 305,90€
RAM G.SKILL Trident Z5 Neo RGB (AMD Expo) 32GB (2x16GB) DDR5-6000MHz CL30 Preta - PCDIGA - 150,90€
Water Cooler CPU MSI MAG CoreLiquid 240R V2 All-In-One - PCDIGA - 109,90€

Thanks

[tdkid]

personally its two main things. 1. what do they prefer. intel or AMD. and 2. what do they plan on doing with it? more workstation or gaming. i am just saying these as they were told to me yesterday when i went thru the same thing. i went to a dedicated computer store near me and i decided to go with a asus ROG strix b650e-f gaming wifi board with a ryzen 9 7950x3d with 64GB of gskill flare x 5 RAM in a bundle deal from the store as i am planning on a lot of gaming and planning on upgrading my monitor to a 4k capable one sometime soon. 

 

i know you said "Warzone 2.0, GTA V, some other at 1440p" but you also might want to look into the required specs of those games before making a decision because from what i can tell either way will run GTA and most games fine, but a lot of them from what i can see are starting to require at least a 7 series CPU, not all just a lot of them. 

[SorryBella]

4 hours ago, jaydeltaa said:

but it has some shutter issues in WZ and other games.

RAM kit? Zen architecture is super RAM sensitive in terms of frame time, you really want the tightest timing possible before the IMC just freaks out and causes RAM related errors. In this case with current state of AGESA, that sweet spot is around CL28-30 as a rough rule of thumb.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor  (€486.90 @ PCDIGA) 
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 240 56.3 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  (€93.80 @ PCDIGA) 
Motherboard: ASRock B650 PRO RS ATX AM5 Motherboard  (€239.90 @ PCDIGA) 
Memory: G.Skill Flare X5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  (€133.80 @ PCDIGA) 
Storage: Crucial P5 Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (€139.80 @ PCDIGA) 
Video Card: MSI GAMING TRIO CLASSIC Radeon RX 7900 XTX 24 GB Video Card  (€1182.00 @ PCDIGA) 
Case: Fractal Design Focus 2 ATX Mid Tower Case  (€65.80 @ PCDIGA) 
Power Supply: Fractal Design Ion Gold 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€124.80 @ PCDIGA) 
Case Fan: ARCTIC P12 56.3 CFM 120 mm Fan  (€8.80 @ PCDIGA) 
Total: €2475.60
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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Something i do with the same database. 

[jaydeltaa]

28 minutes ago, SorryBella said:

RAM kit? Zen architecture is super RAM sensitive in terms of frame time, you really want the tightest timing possible before the IMC just freaks out and causes RAM related errors. In this case with current state of AGESA, that sweet spot is around CL28-30 as a rough rule of thumb.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor  (€486.90 @ PCDIGA) 
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 240 56.3 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  (€93.80 @ PCDIGA) 
Motherboard: ASRock B650 PRO RS ATX AM5 Motherboard  (€239.90 @ PCDIGA) 
Memory: G.Skill Flare X5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  (€133.80 @ PCDIGA) 
Storage: Crucial P5 Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (€139.80 @ PCDIGA) 
Video Card: MSI GAMING TRIO CLASSIC Radeon RX 7900 XTX 24 GB Video Card  (€1182.00 @ PCDIGA) 
Case: Fractal Design Focus 2 ATX Mid Tower Case  (€65.80 @ PCDIGA) 
Power Supply: Fractal Design Ion Gold 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€124.80 @ PCDIGA) 
Case Fan: ARCTIC P12 56.3 CFM 120 mm Fan  (€8.80 @ PCDIGA) 
Total: €2475.60
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-08-10 06:08 WEST+0100

 

Something i do with the same database. 

 

So in ur case I should pick up AMD for him?

Do u think he will profit in games over i5 13600KF? 

 

Thanks

[SorryBella]

6 minutes ago, jaydeltaa said:

So in ur case I should pick up AMD for him?

Do u think he will profit in games over i5 13600KF? 

In my opinion, yeah. Especially considering your friend is also a GTA regular? That thing only scales up to 8 threads and they are a bit cache sensitive.

[Why_Me]

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: *Intel Core i7-13700F 2.1 GHz 16-Core Processor  (€401.50 @ Switch Technology) 
CPU Cooler: *Deepcool AG620 BK ARGB 67.88 CFM CPU Cooler  (€56.08 @ PC Componentes) 
Motherboard: *MSI MAG B760 TOMAHAWK WIFI ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  (€229.90 @ Globaldata) 
Memory: *G.Skill Ripjaws S5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  (€133.90 @ Switch Technology) 
Storage: *Samsung 970 Evo Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (€122.58 @ PC Componentes) 
Power Supply: *Corsair RM850e (2023) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€145.50 @ Switch Technology) 
Total: €1089.46
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-08-10 07:49 WEST+0100

[jaydeltaa]

2 hours ago, SorryBella said:

In my opinion, yeah. Especially considering your friend is also a GTA regular? That thing only scales up to 8 threads and they are a bit cache sensitive.

He is more a Call of Duty but he plays everything that has a story and then leaves.

 

Competition wise he plays Warzone