Pc Ram/boot issues??

[hadabis]

Good Morning

i had for 3-4 years the following steady system

CPU: AMD RYZEN 3600

RAM : G.SKILL F4-3600C18D-16GTZN  16GB

MOTHERBOARD : ASUS TUF X570 PLUS

PSU: CORSAIR 750 WATT 80+GOLD

 

3-4 months ago i decided to do the following upgrade to 

cpu: amd ryzen 7 5800x3d

and added exact same ram sticks +16 gb.

I updated my bios to latest stable version 4602

A month ago my pc froze i tried to restart it but it wouldnt boot. Motherboard boot sequence got stuck on ram led. I cleared cmos opened normally i enabled xmp and worked stable. After a day or so the pc when it went into sleep for hours it wouldnt wake up and i could see the orange (ram check ) light lighting and not booting. reset again etc and then it worked. Same problem happened when i shut off my pc for a while.

I did windows ramcheck nothing came up. After that the problem kept getting worse and pc wouldnt boot even after clearing cmos. I thought maybe old ram sticks went bad, i removed them and pc booted. After 2-3 days same issues. Tried booting with lower frequency on rams went to 3400 ghz, It was stable for some days and again same issue.

Then i tried not having xmp at all enabled, it worked normally for some days but after that same issues again and also i started getting inconsistent bsod (some times after 4-5 minutes from boot sometimes after of a day working normally).  Today i got all the ram sticks and placed them on another computer and they work normally. 

I cant pinpoint the issue could it be the motherboard;;; or could it be the cpu;;

[DontBeSillyWrapYourWilly]

If i understand correctly you are running 4 sticks of ram now , which is notoriously unstable. I would remove those two extra sticks, disable any XMP , let ram run at default speed. Confirm if/that everything is stable. Enable XMP with 2 ram sticks. Confirm if/that everything is stable. If so you have your answer , another case of 4 sticks being unreliable. 

 

The other system you put your kit of ram into might simply have better mobo or cpu with better memory controller. Simple silicon lottery can be at play here.

[191x7]

50 minutes ago, hadabis said:

Good Morning

i had for 3-4 years the following steady system

CPU: AMD RYZEN 3600

RAM : G.SKILL F4-3600C18D-16GTZN  16GB

MOTHERBOARD : ASUS TUF X570 PLUS

PSU: CORSAIR 750 WATT 80+GOLD

 

3-4 months ago i decided to do the following upgrade to 

cpu: amd ryzen 7 5800x3d

and added exact same ram sticks +16 gb.

I updated my bios to latest stable version 4602

A month ago my pc froze i tried to restart it but it wouldnt boot. Motherboard boot sequence got stuck on ram led. I cleared cmos opened normally i enabled xmp and worked stable. After a day or so the pc when it went into sleep for hours it wouldnt wake up and i could see the orange (ram check ) light lighting and not booting. reset again etc and then it worked. Same problem happened when i shut off my pc for a while.

I did windows ramcheck nothing came up. After that the problem kept getting worse and pc wouldnt boot even after clearing cmos. I thought maybe old ram sticks went bad, i removed them and pc booted. After 2-3 days same issues. Tried booting with lower frequency on rams went to 3400 ghz, It was stable for some days and again same issue.

Then i tried not having xmp at all enabled, it worked normally for some days but after that same issues again and also i started getting inconsistent bsod (some times after 4-5 minutes from boot sometimes after of a day working normally).  Today i got all the ram sticks and placed them on another computer and they work normally. 

I cant pinpoint the issue could it be the motherboard;;; or could it be the cpu;;

 

Have you run Passmark Memtest86 or memtest86+ on the new RAM? You assumed the old RAM was faulty, but maybe it's the new.

 

Do you have access to the old Ryzen 3600? You could try using it instead of the 5800X3D and check if the issues persist. That will tell you if it's the board or the CPU.

 

15 minutes ago, DontBeSillyWrapYourWilly said:

If i understand correctly you are running 4 sticks of ram now , which is notoriously unstable. I would remove those two extra sticks, disable any XMP , let ram run at default speed. Confirm if/that everything is stable. Enable XMP with 2 ram sticks. Confirm if/that everything is stable. If so you have your answer , another case of 4 sticks being unreliable. 

 

The other system you put your kit of ram into might simply have better mobo or cpu with better memory controller. Simple silicon lottery can be at play here.

He pretty much did that. But I guess for you it was tl;dr.

[hadabis]

9 minutes ago, 191x7 said:

 

Have you run Passmark Memtest86 or memtest86+ on the new RAM? You assumed the old RAM was faulty, but maybe it's the new.

 

Do you have access to the old Ryzen 3600? You could try using it instead of the 5800X3D and check if the issues persist. That will tell you if it's the board or the CPU.

 

He pretty much did that. But I guess for you it was tl;dr.

i have just tried the memory test of windows and no issues were found. Im afraid i dodnt have the 3600. I have tried both ram sets alone with or without xmp and still  get the issues. The problems are all over the place though the computer i have the ram now is an intel i3-10100 and its stable with the ram although it runs much lower max frequency only 2667 ghz.